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UK PoliticsERA |OT1| - Strong and Stable Government? No. Coalition Of Chaos! PART 2
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Ah yes, noted truth-teller Donald Trump telling the truth again.
I can see why you'd take him at his word, because he is so noted for absolutely never lying about anything, especially not anything which could paint him in a negative light.
It's Corbyn, give him a mic, a stage and an audience of lefties and he just can't say no. I don't think if he'd got the meeting and agreed a peace deal for middle East that he wouldn't have done it.
I think this is bordering on being recalled, well not under current rules, but the guy is a joke
Ah yes, noted truth-teller Donald Trump telling the truth again.
I can see why you'd take him at his word, because he is so noted for absolutely never lying about anything, especially not anything which could paint him in a negative light.
Confirmed by Corbyn's office
It will.
He'll be worse at the job then may will. Once he realises what he had inherited, he pull the GE lever quickfast and leave labour to clean up the mess.
Lmao. Chuka sure is something.
Yep. No one expected it to last, but it sure has been entertaining.
Looking forward to Season 2.
Jesus fucking Christ. I know it's a terrible tragedy they lost their daughter, but for the love of god what other case has had so much spent on it? Spend a fraction of that maybe on some of the services that might stop young black people dying on our streets?
The parents themselves should say enough is enough, probably hard to do understandably. Still think the whole thing stinks, parents are guilty of something regardless of the botched investigation. Really no point continuing with it, she is long gone, dead either not their fault or it was.
They haven't even rehomed the Grenfell victims yet, but whiteness maketh the magick money tree grow
Yeah. It's the biggest media circus since Diana for the scum papers.
I hope we're all ready for the utter shitshow of the next couple of days when the Brexit party likely get their first MP in Peterborough. There's been no polling so not guaranteed by any means but the Tories are dead in the water and it's just after the Euros and the BXP did really well there. The previous Labour MP going to jail, apparently the new Labour candidate is a bit shit with an anti-Semitism accusation already (liked and commented on some anti-Semitic tweets) and with remainers still pissed at Labour generally the left/centrist vote is going to be split massively I think.
I don't even know who I want to win, because the Greens never will, the Lib Dems are not rehabilitated in my eyes and I'm one of those pissed off remainers and having a shit candidate doesn't help Labour either. I guess either of the last two. It's choosing between venereal diseases but still better than ebola or the bubonic plague that is Tories/BXP.
I don't even know who I want to win, because the Greens never will, the Lib Dems are not rehabilitated in my eyes and I'm one of those pissed off remainers and having a shit candidate doesn't help Labour either. I guess either of the last two. It's choosing between venereal diseases but still better than ebola or the bubonic plague that is Tories/BXP.
Labour were never going to hold it, I think anyone peddling that knows it and they'll have the knives out ready. It's nearly always been a Tory seat except for the first two Blair years and 2017 and even then the majority was a few hundred. Obviously the MP going to jail and brexit in a brexit area are going to massively change things but even without that it would've been tough.
tbh don't think it matters who wins if we're heading to an election anyway. It will legitimise the party I guess because they'll have a real MP (not that they ever had a hard time getting on air)
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I haven't looked into the race itself, but the bookies seem to think that BXP are a dead cert for Peterborough.
It's a by-election in unusual circumstances, right off the back of an EU election which was treated as a proxy second referendum.
I'm not too concerned about them gaining that seat (in the grand scheme of things - and especially as we're likely to have a general this year) and wouldn't view it as a wider indication of public mood in all honesty.
It's a by-election in unusual circumstances, right off the back of an EU election which was treated as a proxy second referendum.
I'm not too concerned about them gaining that seat (in the grand scheme of things - and especially as we're likely to have a general this year) and wouldn't view it as a wider indication of public mood in all honesty.
I was hoping the "NHS on the table" stuff might knock a bit of reality into people, but the tories etc all seemed to have a moment of awareness and quickly shut it down for post brexit discussion.
I'm trying to figure out what makes you think from my posts that I'd ever vote UKIP? Also i don't live in Peterborough.
Oh, nothing at all. It just struck me that a UKIP vote (well, not an individual vote, but a bit of campaigning) might be an effective tactic to deny Farage a victory and split the crazy vote.
Eh, high turnout favours left of centre and leftwing parties. Plus polls close at 10, still more then 6 hrs left to go and majority of voters will cast the vote after work.
Low turnout would favour the BXP. Could actually be looking at a lib dem upset.
So Pro-rouging parliament... yeh that will go down well. At a time when the EU treaty's dis-appear we wont have a working parliament to solve the chaos brought on by a no deal Brexit, that is setting us up for a massive constitutional crisis, then there will be riots and shit will hit the fan.
I'm really hoping for a lib dem upset in Peterbrough it just depends on turnout though.
As someone that has to rely on ESA+PiP you can eat my shit Curella Devey. It's a horrible system and during their "assessments" I have to sit there and discuss my inner most private health issues including mental wellbeing to complete stranger who doesn't give a fuck because he has targets to meet. Get Fucked.
I'm really hoping for a lib dem upset in Peterbrough it just depends on turnout though.
As someone that has to rely on ESA+PiP you can eat my shit Curella Devey. It's a horrible system and during their "assessments" I have to sit there and discuss my inner most private health issues including mental wellbeing to complete stranger who doesn't give a fuck because he has targets to meet. Get Fucked.
Jeremy Hunt again showing why a C needs to replace the H
Completely forgot that Peterborough is a thing tonight.
Would be lovely for an upset there
Edit: May just be Sky trying to spin a narrative, but sounds like it might be close - higher turnout than expected.
I'm predicting BXP but closer than anticipated. So doubly disappointing.
Would be lovely for an upset there
Edit: May just be Sky trying to spin a narrative, but sounds like it might be close - higher turnout than expected.
I'm predicting BXP but closer than anticipated. So doubly disappointing.
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The Brexit party saying Labour have wangled the Asian vote to just beat them sounds like unpleasant expectation management to me, but I'd be very happy for it to be true.
Sky had the exclusive of asking Nigel how it'd gone, to which he said "no idea" very quietly before nipping to the bogs.
Labour activists seeming very happy.
Edit: Andrew Neil being fairly damn heavy with this Tory MP on BBC atm.
What's their new leader to do?
Pushing on with Brexit? No mandate for no deal and time running out.
Normal circumstance would be to take it to the people and try and get a mandate for them to get something through - but political suicide.
lol they're fucked
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Weren't the Brexit party claiming they were all for immigration from South Asia? The irony is lovely.
BBC reporting (and by which I mean this very extended edition of This Week) that Labour believe they've won and don't need a recount - and more importantly, Farage has left the count.
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Labour win.
Considering I was seeing odds as high as 1/8 for a BXP victory, that's an upset.
Don't like Labours stance, but I'll count that as a win.
Considering I was seeing odds as high as 1/8 for a BXP victory, that's an upset.
Don't like Labours stance, but I'll count that as a win.
Lab hold! In fact they have increased the majority by 10% compared to 2017. Excellent. 683 overall votes more.
Reports stating momentum activists and Labour campaigning to be the key factor in this win.
Should put a hard brake on BXP plans and send them into a bit of a bitter setback. As I thought, having fucking farages punchable face all over a city harms his party.
It's pretty telling that in a city that voted 61% leave, they lost.
Reports stating momentum activists and Labour campaigning to be the key factor in this win.
Should put a hard brake on BXP plans and send them into a bit of a bitter setback. As I thought, having fucking farages punchable face all over a city harms his party.
It's pretty telling that in a city that voted 61% leave, they lost.
It's nice to keep the nutters out, yes.
The overall picture doesn't look so rosy though. I've crunched the numbers a bit:
Hard Brexit votes (Brexits, Con, UKIP) = 51%. Admittedly a bit down on the referendum result of 61% ish, but still worrisome. Con down by 25 point, Brexit up by 29, so it is Brexit snaffling Con voters - any electoral alliance between them would have swept the board. Lab down 17 points, LibDem up by 9, Green by 1. Suggests a small core of ex-Lab hard brexiteers. Still not clear what the Lab policy is, so hard to read any more into it.
The overall picture doesn't look so rosy though. I've crunched the numbers a bit:
Hard Brexit votes (Brexits, Con, UKIP) = 51%. Admittedly a bit down on the referendum result of 61% ish, but still worrisome. Con down by 25 point, Brexit up by 29, so it is Brexit snaffling Con voters - any electoral alliance between them would have swept the board. Lab down 17 points, LibDem up by 9, Green by 1. Suggests a small core of ex-Lab hard brexiteers. Still not clear what the Lab policy is, so hard to read any more into it.
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