Today I want to set an ambitious course for this country. To be nothing less than the model 21st century nation, a beacon to the world. It means drawing deep into the richness of the British character. Creative. Compassionate. Outward-looking. Old British values, but a new British confidence. We can never be the biggest. We may never again be the mightiest. But we can be the best. The best place to live. The best place to bring up children, the best place to lead a fulfilled life, the best place to grow old.
Imagine a fucking timeline where you can vote to gut the NHS, Schools, Police and make life harder for the poorest in the country.
Especially since the main purpose of the job appears to be making sure soldiers can't get prosecuted for war crimes. It's telling that's the main item, not mental health support etc.
There, solved.I wonder what the Tories and Lib Dems are going to do when they can't hide behind brexit and realise this country is in the toilet because of the EU and also brown people. Oh, and also Corbyn.
Plus Labour spent all the money. They'll keep using that tactic indefinitely.
Doesn't really matter when their party wants to inflict that damage regardless.Interesting to see the socialists decry the "centrists" when they're the only ones with enough bollocks to stand against Brexit, which will wreak the kind of economic damage on the poor your lot allegedly want to avoid.
Unified Ireland is super unlikely. Scotland leaving the U.K.? Significantly more likely but polls haven't really shifted much so who knows. Like Brexit, the indieref was largely split by age so as more young people come of voting age that could tip it. Still not super likely though.American here (sorry), I've been seeing some stuff lately about Boris' approach could end up leading to a unified Ireland, splitting up of the UK, etc etc. I know the backstop is a huge aspect of this but how likely is that really to happen?
I see... thanks for the info!Unified Ireland is super unlikely. Scotland leaving the U.K.? Significantly more likely but polls haven't really shifted much so who knows. Like Brexit, the indieref was largely split by age so as more young people come of voting age that could tip it. Still not super likely though.
It would be a campaign much like the IRA except likely funded in part by the British governmentUnited Ireland would be shots across the border from the Unionists, they're not going to take it lying down
Doesn't really matter when their party wants to inflict that damage regardless.
Yeah, Lib Dem's voting record.What is this based on? Lib Dem record in coalition? Genuine query.
Assuming it's fair, what's the point? Economic harm for the poor is ok if Labour facilitate it? This is facile.
Labour are at the very least supportive of a soft Brexit which while yeah, I'd rather they fully backed Remain
I still don't think there's any chance that a second referendum would actually result in Remain winning tbf. But maybe I'm just a pessimist.Does Labour now back a second referendum in all circumstances? "What we'd say is there'll be a second referendum to make a choice between whatever deal is arranged and what the public want."
Including a Labour deal if you are in power? "Yes, of course, the same thing would apply."
Labour have promised a second referendum regardless. The only circumstance in which Labour won't necessarily back Remain is if it gets the chance to improve the deal. I do think that message is a bit too hazy, and they should probably just say "Remain regardless" right now, because time constraints mean there is no real chance of them negotiating their own deal anyway.
Meanwhile Lib Dems are "hmmm well I guess i'd say i'm a liberal democrat. Brexit is bad, but it's causes... it's causes are very good.".
I still don't think there's any chance that a second referendum would actually result in Remain winning tbf. But maybe I'm just a pessimist.
But yeah, Labour support a second referendum no matter what and will back Remain if the deal on the ballot isn't theirs.
Their stance for if they get into power though is still pro-Brexit but it's at least a softer Brexit, with Freedom of Movement being on the table which leaves open a lot of less damaging possibilities than the Tory stance.