Working majority of one. I know it won't happen but could you imagine Bojo's face if Sinn Féin marched into Parliament on the 3rd September and took their seats.
Working majority of one. I know it won't happen but could you imagine Bojo's face if Sinn Féin marched into Parliament on the 3rd September and took their seats.
Working majority of one. I know it won't happen but could you imagine Bojo's face if Sinn Féin marched into Parliament on the 3rd September and took their seats.
Rules don't apply to tories. They can be as crooked, malicious and racist as they like, but people will still consider them a fundamental backbone of the country.Disgusting that Chris Davies still got 39% of the vote even after a conviction for submitting false expenses. People really don't give a shit, do they?
In this country we have a twisted and perverse sense of justice that routinely lets politicians off the hook for lying, cheating and stealing on the one hand, and has gnashing our teeth if a poor person claims more benefits than they're entitled to on the other.
Afraid of losing their seats at the next GE if in a weak LD area. That is basically all.Why don't one of these Tory MP,s who hate Boris and is a staunch remainer join the Lib Dem's
Can't believe Labour did so badly (12.5% down) that they almost lost their deposit and only beat the Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP - a joke and a dead party whose base has transferred to another that doubled Labour's share. This may not have been a Labour seat by any stretch of the imagination, but this paints a picture. How much more of this sort of stuff needs to happen before the party wakes up and realizes something needs to happen to stop a horrific electoral slide in the next GE?
Didn't realise until today how dreadful Labour's by-election record is:Can't believe Labour did so badly (12.5% down) that they almost lost their deposit and only beat the Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP - a joke and a dead party whose base has transferred to another that doubled Labour's share. This may not have been a Labour seat by any stretch of the imagination, but this paints a picture. How much more of this sort of stuff needs to happen before the party wakes up and realizes something needs to happen to stop a horrific electoral slide in the next GE?
Can't believe Labour did so badly (12.5% down) that they almost lost their deposit and only beat the Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP - a joke and a dead party whose base has transferred to another that doubled Labour's share. This may not have been a Labour seat by any stretch of the imagination, but this paints a picture. How much more of this sort of stuff needs to happen before the party wakes up and realizes something needs to happen to stop a horrific electoral slide in the next GE?
How the fuck did the Tories still do so well with the same candidate? Some parts of this country are beyond help.
Anyway it looks like so good ol' tactical voting and the Brexit party messed it up for Boris. Shame that.
Labours lousy performance comes down to nobody giving a shit due to it being a seat they saw they couldn't win. Still disappointing that they didn't even try, but at least Tories lost another seat so there's always that.
Disgusting that Chris Davies still got 39% of the vote even after a conviction for submitting false expenses. People really don't give a shit, do they?
In this country we have a twisted and perverse sense of justice that routinely lets politicians off the hook for lying, cheating and stealing on the one hand, and has gnashing our teeth if a poor person claims more benefits than they're entitled to on the other.
Interesting to see the socialists decry the "centrists" when they're the only ones with enough bollocks to stand against Brexit, which will wreak the kind of economic damage on the poor your lot allegedly want to avoid.
There's no remorse over the economically illiterate austerity agenda that led to the slowest post-crisis economic recovery in centuries, and which still hasn't eliminated the deficit despite the fact they said it would have done before May 2015 (over four years ago).
There's no remorse over helping Theresa May slash the police force by 21,000 and close literally hundreds of police stations, which has contributed to the violent crime epidemic we're suffering today.
There's no remorse over the brutal Tory sanctions regime, nor the despicable disability denial system that has resulted in literally thousands of people dying within weeks of being declared "fit for work" and thrown off their disability benefits.
There's no remorse over Lib-Dem votes in favour of deeply illiberal policies like secret courts, the gagging law, bedroom tax, dripa, Theresa May's Hostile Environment, and the catastrophic strategy of turning Libya into a lawless terrorism breeding ground like Blair and Bush did to Iraq.
And worst of all there's no remorse about the way the far-right blamed the collapsing living standards these disgusting policies causes on immigrants and the EU in order to promote Brexit, and the Lib-Dems just bit their tongues, because any effort to explain that the real causes of the living standards collapse (austerity, wage repression, infrastructure under-investment, public service cuts, vandalism of the social safety net) would have illustrated their own complicity. So they just stayed silent and let the far-right win.
Had it not been the the Lib-Dumbs going into coalition with that fat, lazy "call me dave", "chillaxing" Camoron govt, we wouldn't even be in this mess as documented articles have shown that austerity directly led to the Leave vote winning.
Austerity is a political choice and the Lib Dems helped facilitate it. No point trying to rewrite history and I think Jo Swinson is very aware of the criticism.Austerity was happening one way or another. Do you actually remember that little about 2010?
Austerity is a political choice and the Lib Dems helped facilitate it. No point trying to rewrite history and I think Jo Swinson is very aware of the criticism.
Austerity was happening one way or another. Do you actually remember that little about 2010?
I'm sorry, what was your point again? You know, besides white-washing the LD's and insulting my intelligence?
The LD's had other choices besides going into bed with the Tories and reneging on virtually every major manifesto commitment.
The economy was growing under Darling, until that towel folder and economic illiterate Osborne stopped it dead in it's tracks. Yes, Ed Milliband had notionally accepted the need for economic "austerity" but I doubt even he would have passed deeply illiberal policies that Swinson / Clegg / Vince did.
And Swinson has demonstrated she has learnt absolutely nothing by already ruling out a coalition with Labour under JC.
Source: Sarah Teather / Jo Swinson
You know, give it four or five years -- after we've left the European Union -- Swinson will be out and probably working in the private sector [like Clegg] in some vastly overpaid job.
I'm sorry, what was your point again? You know, besides white-washing the LD's and insulting my intelligence?
The LD's had other choices besides going into bed with the Tories and reneging on virtually every major manifesto commitment.
The economy was growing under Darling, until that towel folder and economic illiterate Osborne stopped it dead in it's tracks. Yes, Ed Milliband had notionally accepted the need for economic "austerity" but I doubt even he would have passed deeply illiberal and damaging policies that Swinson / Clegg / Vince did.
And Swinson has demonstrated she has learnt absolutely nothing by already ruling out a coalition with Labour under JC.
You know, give it four or five years -- after we've left the European Union -- Swinson will be out and probably working in the private sector [like Clegg] in some vastly overpaid job.
Even Labour were promising austerity at the time, which is a fact they've managed to avoid dealing with simply because they weren't the ones in government.
Since that time, Labour have had a change of Leader (who had nothing to do with those policies because he consistently) voted against them and a transformation in it's social, economic and political program. In other words, they've moved on from Bliar. It's the Blairites who refuse to move on and get with the changing times.
Do some basic fact checking before you make a fool of yourself in a public forum. :o)
Can't believe Labour did so badly (12.5% down) that they almost lost their deposit and only beat the Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP - a joke and a dead party whose base has transferred to another that doubled Labour's share. This may not have been a Labour seat by any stretch of the imagination, but this paints a picture. How much more of this sort of stuff needs to happen before the party wakes up and realizes something needs to happen to stop a horrific electoral slide in the next GE?
Even Labour were promising austerity at the time, which is a fact they've managed to avoid dealing with simply because they weren't the ones in government.
Actually we dealt with it by electing the one candidate for leader who opposed it.
Have people forgotten how Corbyn won in the first place?
Opinions are flimsy. Labour are the only party that have chosen to shift their leadership.When attacking a political party for something that happened in the past, I do also think it's important to bear in mind whether the party you support would have also done exactly the same thing.
There was wide support for austerity, to varying degrees, across all the main parties in 2010, and it's also disingenuous to state that only people who opposed it then would not continue with it now. Are only Labour allowed to shift their opinion on policy over the course of 10 years?
Everyone is entitled to change their mind, but if the options are:
A) Someone who used to think jumping off a cliff was a good idea, but now wants to maybe abseil down half-way instead.
B) Someone who always thought jumping off a cliff was stupid, and still doesn't want to climb down the cliff at all.
Then I'll take B.
Didn't realise until today how dreadful Labour's by-election record is:
People vote more tactically in by-elections than in regular elections. This is partly because most people also generally don't vote in by-elections…
Stakes are high.
That's one of those things I agree they should stop taxing, change the law and actually dump money into just to do it. Properly wiring the country should be seen as an essential service.In before "what do experts know" and project OOF
Another black mark against the big Boris plan
There's a good bit near the end of that where it makes sense to use a mix of wired and 5G solutions for remotely located homes. Doesn't make sense to dig up the country for one farmer in the middle of nowherewhrn a 5G connection does the jobThat's one of those things I agree they should stop taxing, change the law and actually dump money into just to do it. Properly wiring the country should be seen as an essential service.
that's true, it definitely makes sense to do wireless in some areas. There's still quite a few black spots in this country though which could be solved with better planning.There's a good bit near the end of that where it makes sense to use a mix of wired and 5G solutions for remotely located homes. Doesn't make sense to dig up the country for one farmer in the middle of nowherewhrn a 5G connection does the job