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As far as I can see, it's in the higher levels of sales for JRPGs, although there are a number of JRPGs that sell (much) higher, like FF, KH, Persona 5.
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UK sales: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 sales 1/3 higher than Chronicles X, other miscellany
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It's normally fine if you know what you're extrapolating and the relative tastes of the market. Most Switch sequels have been up over their WiiU counterparts. So if a game is up in the UK which is relatively soft for Nintendo vs the total market size it's probably up in other markets as well. That's not a crazy expolation. Mario, Zelda, Splatoon and Splatoon have all followed the same curve. Kingdom Battle seems to have been up (I assume because of discounting) lately.
Nier has only had 1 other game. Automata is definitely the franchises breakout game. Xenoblade also is currently in a growth phase. We can see game to game improvements. But I thi k the general idea isn't that big JRPGs dont perform well. Pokemon, FF, Kingdom Hearts all have been consistently huge franchises for the genre. Moee that the average game doesn't often crack 5 figures.
Not a great number when taken into account the switch hype. Hopefully digital will boost that number.
Yeah, but if Persona can make it than I think others can as well. Wish we got P5 numbers to gauge the gap.
BTW could you perhaps make a separate thread on the GTS nugget to talk about it. Thanks :D
True. And I'm grateful for it. I had a PAL copy of Xenoblade imported at the time they finally announced the NoA release, and gratefully swapped the copy.
Technically speaking being in this thread as part of "other miscellany" constitutes as the nugget getting a separate thread from the PAL thread.
Also people are just posting in the old GTS sale tidbit thread anyways.
Yeah, looking at the numbers we have seen reported here it seems obviously in the upper part of the "niche" JRPG for the UK market.
I wonder which number can generate in France where the genre is usually much stronger.
That would be a great news imho.
Let's see how it will perform in Japan, where YSO predictions are putting it in a similar situation (110k average against lower debuts for both Xeno Wii and X) not counting digital sales (of course way stronger nowadays than in the Wii days LOL, but also compared to the Wii U ones, as per Nintendo official statements).
1 million sales would guarantee Monolith to continue its "ambitious" projects (as the new phantasy rpg?!?!?)
Whilst that may be true in regards to general trends NISA specifically noted that whilst the biggest PAL market for Disgaea has traditionally been the UK, Disgaea 5 Complete sold better in France.
P5 is the exception in the UK, not the rule.
As shown by other posters, if you don't count the three big JRPG IPs in the west (Pokemon, FF and KH), it's actually in the higher bar of the JRPG genre sales in this country.
This.
You guys know GTS is in the OP right? Not sure why it would be off topic.
They mean Mantis wanting someone to make an additional, separate thread for the GTS sentence.
Hadn't switch already surpassed the Wii U in the UK or is close to it?
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Sure, it's not impossible. Persona 5 did have a big build up with Persona 4 being very well-received and Persona 4 golden putting the franchise in the collectie mindshare. Maybe XBC can make a jump like Persona 5 did some day, but I don't think it's had quite the lead up yet.
As for a dedicated thread: I have thought about it, but I prefer to wait for the moment where it outsells Crash and becomes the biggest PS4 exclusive, as I'm not sure a 300k milestone is quite worth a separate thread away from the PAL charts thread. Don't think we made one for Crash reaching 200k or something like that either, nor for Horizon hitting 200k (I'm pretty sure it did already).
I looked for a bit and couldn't find anything on this, but they debuted at #1 and #6 respectively.
Yeah, but Xenoblade has only had one other main series game and a spinoff. Unless we wanna count these as a wider part of a "Xeno" franchise. Xenoblade is in a growth phase based on these numbers, but it's still at a low level of sales here, taken on its own and compared to these other JRPG franchises we might refer to as "B-tier" (vs the A-tier like KH, FF, Pokemon). I guess I was just expecting more considering how huge the marketing push has been.
That's good for the IP. Higher sales are always good - Especially when there's actually other games to buy this time around compared to when the Wii U game launched.
Anyone from the UK who knows how it's been doing on the e-shop charts?
Here in the Nordic countries it's been #1 for 4 days now I believe.
Anyone from the UK who knows how it's been doing on the e-shop charts?
Here in the Nordic countries it's been #1 for 4 days now I believe.
Yeah its B Tier. It isn't going to grow past that without some changes. That said I still expect when all is said and done this game will out perform X by a decent margin. Even in the UK.
How do they (or can they even) account for digital sales from other eShop stores?
Everyone I know with a Switch (UK) shops around the various ones for the best deals.
edit: Just realised this is probably for physical sales, but either way curious when it comes to region download counts.
Everyone I know with a Switch (UK) shops around the various ones for the best deals.
edit: Just realised this is probably for physical sales, but either way curious when it comes to region download counts.
More like Persona 5 is the example. It was once a niche series like Tales but with P4/5 has gained a larger audience.
Ah, its okay, looks like the old thread has got bumped.
yea this has nothing to do with anything digital. these are retail UK charts.
So a 33% increase to Around 14k?
Now I think most of the non big hitters for the console have disappointed but that seriously isn't ba for a JRPG.
Most JRPGs don't sell 5 figures until a few weeks in.
Now I think most of the non big hitters for the console have disappointed but that seriously isn't ba for a JRPG.
Most JRPGs don't sell 5 figures until a few weeks in.
Reading this thread is like stepping into the Twilight Zone or something. Did I miss the memo where we decided that comparing a small jRPG franchise to Final Fantasy or Pokémon is fair? Will we be comparing Disgaea sales to Fire Emblem sales next?
Even on the Wii, Xenoblade did tiny numbers. But apparently, those numbers were enough to comission a sequel, which in turn sold well enough to justify this game's development. Lo and behold XC2 grows even more.
That's a pretty good result, something that bodes well for Monolith at least. Especially considering XCX managed to become a succes on the Wii U of all places.
Even on the Wii, Xenoblade did tiny numbers. But apparently, those numbers were enough to comission a sequel, which in turn sold well enough to justify this game's development. Lo and behold XC2 grows even more.
That's a pretty good result, something that bodes well for Monolith at least. Especially considering XCX managed to become a succes on the Wii U of all places.
So if a 33% increase happens in Japan as well then we would get around 113k for its first weekend. That seems quite possible no?
Great result. Whats important here is the growth. Nintendo managed to make Fire Emblem a high level B tier franchise due to consistency and investment. Im hoping they will do the same with Xenoblade. It is showing promise. Maybe a mobile entry will help grow it even further. Its well suited for mobile too.
I see, this one probably has the best chance to do it and I can see it being able to with how the Switch is doing.
I think Nintendo must have undershipped the game. I couldn't find the standard OR collector's edition anywhere in Hong Kong
I'm gonna call bullshit for the bolded. I'm not convinced that Ni No Kuni and Dragon Quest game are selling very well in the UK either.
The UK isn't really known to be really receptive of niche Japanese games at all.
It's higher than the past two games so that's nice. Should have more legs too.
And if it performed this well in UK, then it should do a lot better everywhere else too.
Looks like Nintendo won again!
And if it performed this well in UK, then it should do a lot better everywhere else too.
Looks like Nintendo won again!
How much did Persona and Nier sell at launch? Would be nice to have a reference point.
Yeah but that's 5 months after FIFA launched and 3 months after COD launched.
I'm sort of surprised companies still publish boxed JRPGs in the UK if the sales are as bad as some of the numbers shown in here (that Berseria number jeez.) I mean, I'm glad they still do, but now I understand why it's seemingly impossible to pre-order a boxed copy of Tokyo Xanadu eX+ right now.
I feel like Xenoblade should do better due to its voice acting alone, though. Maybe if they got some recognizable celebrity on board rather than accomplished voice actors who had one live-action role in Doctors a decade ago.
I feel like Xenoblade should do better due to its voice acting alone, though. Maybe if they got some recognizable celebrity on board rather than accomplished voice actors who had one live-action role in Doctors a decade ago.
I'm expecting a substantial increase in a 2 week period over X. X sold 40k in two weeks so I'm expecting 60k in 2 weeks and possibly 100k+ lifetime. Germany will be interesting too since it actually debuted in the top ten there despite the major releases that year(Battlefront bear Episode 7, Fallout 4, Blops 3, FiFA, Halo, Tomb Raider, etc.)
I'm kinda surprised with how well the Switch is doing that it isn't selling that much more than the one on the WiiU. Hopefully it will have long legs.
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Best selling PS4 exclusive this year, obviously FIFA, Call of Duty WWII and some other games sold way more on PS4.
Yeah but didn't Yakuza, Uncharted, Horizon, etc all come out this year?
Not to shit on Crash but its weird to me that a redo of a PS1 game was the one that captured their hearts and minds (I love Crash 2, the other two were just eh for me).
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Uncharted 4 was last year, and Lost Legacy just isn't as big a product as UC4 was, with its beginnings as a dlc. Yakuza is tiny in UK, and Horizon did really well - Crash just did better, from the first week on. 90's nostalgie is big, and many people remember the Crash games as THE game of their childhood. An affordable remaster of all three games was a great product for many gamers and non-gamers, and it shows in the sales numbers. Crash is, after 20 years, still a massive franchise.