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D65

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Oct 26, 2017
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There's basically sugar free versions of almost all my favourite drinks now! Mango Aloe Vera drinks with no sugar?

Who else is happy about this? It's amazing to see like 70% of drinks now suddenly "50% sugar". Really makes you wonder what they were doing before.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Sugar Tax was implemented here in Mexico and we are as fat as always.

Sugary stuff is still much cheaper than healthier alternatives.
 

Medalion

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've known about aloe vera sugar free drinks for a little while... check the Asian supermarkets for em, they pretty gud
But I live in Canada
 

RulkezX

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Oct 27, 2017
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There's basically sugar free versions of almost all my favourite drinks now! Mango Aloe Vera drinks with no sugar?

Who else is happy about this? It's amazing to see like 70% of drinks now suddenly "50% sugar". Really makes you wonder what they were doing before.

They still charge the same for the full sugar version as they do for the sugar free one so fuck the sugar tax
 

TyrantII

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sugar is a cheap additive that increases sales, so its no wonder more than needed is added. In America its in everything, even a slice of bread has 4 grams added sugar.

Removing as much sugar as possible from my diet has done wonders. Down 40 lbs.
 

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I feel like the market in the US has already been moving toward sugar free for a long time, which is dumb because they're likely not better for you. I was looking at the drink aisle trying to find lemonade with sugar in it, and Country Time Lemonade was the only one with actual sugar. Everything else was a sugar substitute.
 

Mr Delabee

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Oct 25, 2017
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RIP in peace.
I'll never forgive the sugar tax for ruining this.

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ned_ballad

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I feel like the market in the US has already been moving toward sugar free for a long time, which is dumb because they're likely not better for you. I was looking at the drink aisle trying to find lemonade with sugar in it, and Country Time Lemonade was the only one with actual sugar. Everything else was a sugar substitute.
In one can of soda

Diet Coke 0 Calories
Coke 140 Calories
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,238
Sugar is a cheap additive that increases sales, so its no wonder more than needed is added. In America its in everything, even a slice of bread has 4 grams added sugar.

Removing as much sugar as possible from my diet has done wonders. Down 40 lbs.
Do you use Stevia? I just started to use it today, put less than 1g on my coffee and it tastes Starbucks-sweet.
 

Kyougar

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Nov 3, 2017
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There must be added even more tax to sugar, only so that the food industry doesn't oversugar or add sugar to things that don't need sugar. hell, the fries, who you mostly eat with salts are sugared!
 

MrChom

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Oct 26, 2017
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There's basically sugar free versions of almost all my favourite drinks now! Mango Aloe Vera drinks with no sugar?

Who else is happy about this? It's amazing to see like 70% of drinks now suddenly "50% sugar". Really makes you wonder what they were doing before.

Great for people like you...less so for me. Sugar was replaced by sweeteners in many things and I can't stand the taste of sweeteners. For drinks I kind of now subsist off water or black tea. Honestly it makes me kind of miserable that even if I want to I can't get Ribena that doesn't taste of vomit.

The only drink with sweeteners I can really stand is Dr Pepper Zero which creates even more of a problem in pubs as most have dropped normal Coke in favour of drinks with sweeteners. I drive a lot so I don't drink while out...giving me a grand choice of iced tap water or go thirsty.

I wouldn't mind there being a sugar tax if the option to have drinks that don't taste like ass was still there. I would pay more in a heartbeat....as it is I don't have that choice and it sucks.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,987
MĂ©xico
Sugar Tax was implemented here in Mexico and we are as fat as always.

Sugary stuff is still much cheaper than healthier alternatives.
I'm from MĂ©xico and agree with the OP. There is a lot more choices without sugar now. I can easily go to any OXXO and get drinks without sugar (I like Naranja & Nada and Ciel Exprim). A lot of the Mexican population is still fat because they keep drinking a 3 liter Coca-Cola with each meal, no matter the price.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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MĂ©xico
I feel like the market in the US has already been moving toward sugar free for a long time, which is dumb because they're likely not better for you. I was looking at the drink aisle trying to find lemonade with sugar in it, and Country Time Lemonade was the only one with actual sugar. Everything else was a sugar substitute.
Sugar substitute is harmless.
 

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In one can of soda

Diet Coke 0 Calories
Coke 140 Calories

Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.
 

TyrantII

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you use Stevia? I just started to use it today, put less than 1g on my coffee and it tastes Starbucks-sweet.

I've just moved to unsweetened everything, and trying to find products with no added sugar. I won't lie; the first few weeks is like detoxing or kicking an addiction. But after that you pallet kinda adjusts and things that were bland before are suddenly much more flavorful.

I drink black cherry polar springs seltzer for example and the cherry flavor now tastes slightly sweet even though there's no sugar.

I'll treat myself to sweets or desert a few times a month, but everything else try to get the sugar to as low as i can find it, so no sugar soft drinks, bread with no added sugar, grains with no added sugar, suger free dairy, and stay away from a lot of boxed stuff since its coated in sugar, fat, and salt to make it palatable.

Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.

Maybe, but health science is pretty hard to do because its hard to single out factors and correlations.

If I had a nickel for every time I was in the fast food line and someone ordered 4000 calories of fat, salt, and sugar and then added a "Diet coke"...

Plus that fast food option is so calorie packed you are hungry 90 minutes later, after eating 4000 calories.

My guess is people drinking any kind of soda regularly aren't really making the best nutritional choices.
 
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Podge293

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tesco Ireland are fucking milking it. Or at least some places are.

Dropped the size the can. Upped the price a bit. Blamed sugar tax.

Dropped 500ml bottles. Replaced with 375ml bottles. Kept the price tho
 

ned_ballad

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Oct 25, 2017
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Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.
I drink about a liter of diet soda a day, and I've lost over 50 pounds in 6 months. Diet soda has had no impact on my weight loss.

If you want to drink 1200 calories of sugar water, be my guest. I'm sticking with my 0 calorie drinks and not gaining ridiculous amounts of weight from empty calories.

Weight is based on how many calories your body uses, versus how many you take in. Nothing else matters.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.
Omg. Do better research.

My dad, and many of my patients would be dead if this were true.

It just metabolizes into waste products.
 

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I can't stand the tax myself. The only fizzy drink I even buy is Cherry Coke and it's ÂŁ3.30 for three and a half litres. It's like ÂŁ1 more now for half a litre less. Don't even get me started on chocolate.

The worst part is the government said that companies would eat the cost, but all they've done is increase the price and shrink the size.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,987
MĂ©xico
Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.
This is troll science.
 

GangWarily

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Oct 25, 2017
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I kept hearing about how the UK sugar tax ruined Irn Bru. I couldn't really taste it until I tried the Irn Bru Xtra...blegh.

The regular still seem pretty alright.
 

Fright Zone

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Dec 17, 2017
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I despise the taste of sweeteners so I'm hating the changes.

I barely drink sugary drinks, maybe one a week, usually when I'm hungover, and when I want a sugar hit. I don't want a horrible chemically sweetener aftertaste, and I don't trust artificial sweeteners.
 

Jam

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Oct 25, 2017
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What this monstrous tax did to Orange lucozade can never be forgiven.
 

Aurizen

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Oct 25, 2017
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Philly
I live in Philly we have a 1.5 cent tax on sugar beverages. I can't say alternatives have been coming up. People just go out the city to get soda and juice without the tax. It hasn't been promising.

Aren't alternative sugar linked to cancer? That's one reason why I've been avoiding them.
 

DevilMayGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.
Literally none of this is science lol
 

seat

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Mar 14, 2018
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Which likely confuses your body's metabolism and probably causes more down stream issues than it fixes. Go to Google Scholar, type in "diet soda" and go see what science tells you. You're probably just as likely to get a stroke, a heart attack, or diabetes from drinking diet soda as you are soda with sugar. And you're probably not even doing any good for your weight, or at least it is muddled enough there's no reason to prefer diet over sugar. It's just a marketing thing done by drink manufacturers to make people feel better about themselves.

This comes up in every single thread- people feel like because calories=0 that they're doing themselves a favor. No, you're not. You never get anything for free. If you're doing it for taste, that's one thing. But it isn't exactly healthy.

No, this has all been debunked long ago. What industry lobby do you think funded the "scientific" studies you are referencing? Please don't fall for this like some anti-vaxxer.
 

Lucreto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Like cigarette taxes people pay them no matter the price.

I am a suger addict and I pay whatever they charge.
 

base_two

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm OK with Stevia, as it's been around for a long time and seems to have no harmful effects, but even that should be consumed sparingly. The other sweeteners like aspartame? Nope. Never met a person who drank diet soda regularly that didn't have a body shaped like a Hutt. While some people may lose weight drinking sugar free sweeteners, it promotes a bad diet and most people will eat poorly otherwise. So I'm not convinced a sugar tax is helping the problem much.

People would be better off learning to drink tea, coffee, and water without the sweeteners as their liquids.
 

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This is troll science.

No. It's not.

Non-nutritive sweetner consumption is strongly associated with obesity, particularly with greater waist circumference.

Plausible mechanisms for the metabolic activity of NNSs include changes in the gut microbiome, stimulation of insulin and incretinsecretion, upregulation of adipogenesis, and altered nutrient sensing by the brain.

This is from an article in Trends in Endocrinology and Metabolism in 2018, which is top 5 Endocrinology journal according to one set of rankings, and has an impact factor of 10 (10 citations within a certain amount of time). Great for the person who lost weight in the short term. You should probably switch to water if you care about your long term health.

Another article from a board-certified physician.

https://theconversation.com/diet-soda-may-be-hurting-your-diet-96181
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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There's basically sugar free versions of almost all my favourite drinks now! Mango Aloe Vera drinks with no sugar?

Who else is happy about this? It's amazing to see like 70% of drinks now suddenly "50% sugar". Really makes you wonder what they were doing before.
My girlfriend is type 1 diabetic. This sugar tax is screwing her over because sometimes you need a sugary drink in case your blood sugar is dangerously low.

Sugar is fine, people need to learn moderation.
 

OceanBreeze

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May 7, 2018
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What happened to green Coca Cola bottles? Sweetened with plant extract or something.

I thought that tasted quite good. I don't like the aspartame taste.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No. It's not.



This is from an article in Trends in Endocrinology and Metabolism in 2018, which is top 5 Endocrinology journal according to one set of rankings, and has an impact factor of 10 (10 citations with a certain amount of time). Great for the person who lost weight in the short term. You should probably switch to water if you care about your long term health.
Are you seriously cherry picking?
Did you even read the the study, methods, and discussion?
 
Jan 18, 2018
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There's basically sugar free versions of almost all my favourite drinks now! Mango Aloe Vera drinks with no sugar?

Who else is happy about this? It's amazing to see like 70% of drinks now suddenly "50% sugar". Really makes you wonder what they were doing before.

I wish we had this in the US.

It blows my mind you go to a pharmacy like CVS or Rite Aid, and they have 10 fridges selling drinks.

And of those 10 fridges, maybe half of one is diet. Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Diet Pepsi, and 2 flavors of diet snapple.

Rest is sugar city

At a fucking health store