I'll add here that I heard lots of rumors in the early days of the Wuhan outbreak of people dieing while waiting in line for treatment not being counted and of deaths by covid being labeled as pneumonia and such and not being part of the covid total.
I feel the same. I had a bad feeling this would happen as soon as cases started being reported here.Lets be real here, even if the US was on the ball a month in advance it still would have eventually gotten to this point, only a little bit later. The US and its population is just not setup for this kind of an issue. The US itself gets an insane amount of traffic from everywhere on top of being huge with a large population. Americans in general dont like being told what to do and you cant just bolt them into their homes and make them disappear if they dont listen, they still have rights. Even if you gave them all of the security nets youd want, you will not be able to keep them in place for long. The US was always going to be "#1" here eventually and unfortunately.
Same in the UK. It's basically the reason everyone is saying that the "dead" number is the only one worth tracking now.Our number is so under reported too. My brother caught it and the guidance is basically don't get tested. And it's near impossible to get tested unless you have a severe case.
Same in the UK. It's basically the reason everyone is saying that the "dead" number is the only one worth tracking now.
But we get many report inside the Uighur itself. So Is not like CCP able to silent It completely. If COVID 19 really spread outside wuhan more than reported. Then we should hear it form Chinese citizen. No matter how hard CCP lockdownSimply because it's state run sources that release those numbers which are unlikely to be scrutinized. Any sensible judgement cannot be gained from a totalitarian government that is hell bent in falsifying info that spends millions on propaganda.
Remember, Uyghur genocide is not happening, those mass interment camps are education camps that no one there enrolled for.
China thoughI mean... we also have the third largest population in the world. So its logical that we would have a larger number of cases.
compare to 1st and 2nd largest population?I mean... we also have the third largest population in the world. So its logical that we would have a larger number of cases.
LOL our lives are in danger and we're relying on Donald Trump, aka Robin Leach's favorite D-list celebrity guest.
But we get many report inside the Uighur itself. So Is not like CCP able to silent It completely. If COVID 19 really spread outside wuhan more than reported. Then we should hear it form Chinese citizen. No matter how hard CCP lockdown
I understand the frustration, but the idea of laughing is completely alien to me. I don't want to sit here and be some kind of scold, so I'll just peace out. Just expressing my astonishment is all.
Still arguing with idiots on my suburbs facebook page. Now the virus being deadly is real but China is lying. That's their take. At least it's like 5% of people instead of half of people saying you're being a Karen for reporting parties during at home stay order.
Thing is, we know China was lying at the beginning of the virus, but now we believe they are telling the truth?
China probably is/may be lying but that doesn't mean this is any less serious. Don't worry about Facebook fools, they'll just drive you insane.Still arguing with idiots on my suburbs facebook page. Now the virus being deadly is real but China is lying. That's their take. At least it's like 5% of people instead of half of people saying you're being a Karen for reporting parties during at home stay order.
China probably is/may be lying but that doesn't mean this is any less serious. Don't worry about Facebook fools, they'll just drive you insane.
Germany's death numbers are extremely suspicious. AFAIK, they are not counting the elderly or people with previous illnesses. Or people who die at home. They only count people who die in hospitals. That's why they are so low.
We get Uighur report that bring to light the horrors taking place by escaped victims, and reporters inside have written how they're followed and consequently forced to leave areas, and previous bustling areas of Uighur regions having been completely transformed and those left terrified to even mention the atrocities taken place in fear of being outted by local watchers. The sheer scale is still unknown, so no, we don't get reports from inside Uighur without continuous obstacles, threats and intimidation. And it's great we get to hear from citizens but they're anecdotes, not something we can bank on, so being skeptical of figures from CCP is valid. But yes, at the moment it's not really about competing figures, the under reporting is something for Chinese people to reconcile with, the US will become the epicenter of this pandemic due to the incompetence of their government, and its something I'm truly worried about, given EU nation's excellent health care systems have almost collapsed in dealing with the virus, my stomach is in knots thinking of how Republicans hatred of social care will impact the most vulnerable in US.But we get many report inside the Uighur itself. So Is not like CCP able to silent It completely. If COVID 19 really spread outside wuhan more than reported. Then we should hear it form Chinese citizen. No matter how hard CCP lockdown
China isn't one person... The fault in Wuhan has been pinned on the former governor and mayor there and both have been removed from their positions and are now being prosecuted.... yes there's a chance they are being scapegoated but anyone who knows the Chinese political system would know that their provincial leaders have a ton of power (in a country of so many billions they need to), so it wouldn't be completely unbelievable for them to cover their own asses back then without anyone telling them to.Thing is, we know China was lying at the beginning of the virus, but now we believe they are telling the truth?
Or we just have a relatively functioning healthcare system and most Germans are pretty easy with following rules like keeping a minimum distance. I was in the park for 30 minutes yesterday and didn't see a single grouping that had more than 2 people at once. Fining the shit out of people helps too. If you are caught in a gym that's 5k for you. Yesterday in my city a group of 5 were hanging out, everyone had to pay 200.
Maybe stop spreading bullshit lol.
china's numbers are fake my dude, the virus was in China in late november last year, quarantine didnt happen until late january and that was only in Hubei, other provinces didnt go on lockdown until February.
China lost a lot of time prosecuting doctors
Same in the UK. It's basically the reason everyone is saying that the "dead" number is the only one worth tracking now.
Less than a week. 149 total deaths on 3/18, 413 on 3/22. 1195 today. With deaths doubling every 4 days or so... we're looking 1200+ additional deaths by Tuesday or Wednesday, or 2500ish total. I'm guessing it'll be 2 weeks before that's a daily number with the way things are shaping up in the South (NOLA, GA and FL specifically).And most of these are recent cases. Get ready for the inevitable thousands of deaths in a week or 2.