This should have been handled much better, zero doubt. Did they not have an in depth conversation about this type of thing? We did and I got my degree from fuck all. Just snag the degree and shake someones hand.
University of Florida apologizes after black graduates were pulled off stage during graduation
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Geez really? I answered your question honestly and this is what I get.
You also ignored half of my post so this is clearly a pointless exchange.
Again, my response was to someone who asked what the difference was if someone took the 5 seconds to wave or dance. I provided anecdotal evidence, reasons why it can be an issue, the impact it can have, along with the reason why Universities discourage such actions. What else would you expect an answer to a post questioning time to be about other than time?
If you aren't interested in that part of the discussion i ask you again why quote my post responding to a question about time? It clearly does not play a part in the aspect of the discussion you want to have which is fine.
I have not said the graduates were wrong, out of line, or not deserving of being able to celebrate their graduation in any way they choose. That is your misinterpretation based on your seemingly overly emotional response to reasoning i provided to someones questions.
Perhaps your time would be better spent responding to those who call the graduates actions "uncalled for and over the top" instead of getting upset when you engage an aspect of a conversation you don't want to discuss with someone who has made it clear in each of their posts that the graduates did nothing wrong or deserving of the treatment they received and who has stated numerous times that the individual was out of line for responding and treating the graduates in that matter.
Devil's advocate, but students should be respectful of the ceremony and of everyone else's time. This isn't a party. Showing a little joy is okay but keep moving. I don't buy that's it part of "their culture" but I'm not familiar with it if it's genuinely historically respected, my thought is it's just a goofy celebratory thing to do that pushes the button of authority; we did this shit in highschool all the time. This guy is clearly thorny and was probably done after the second person to do it, and just wasn't going to have it.
That video is hilarious by the way.
That video is hilarious by the way.
I disagree. What this country needs is more "mooning" at women's colleges like that scene from the movie Private School with Phoebe Cates. Youtube it.
But I do agree it's hilarious. I can just hear him muttering, "God dammit, Hurry up. This isn't Prom, quit dancing and beat it. Move! Let's Go. I HEARD THAT! (Jesus, summer can't come soon enough.)"
I think a lot of the audience probably cares if it takes 5 hours. Some family members may have a limited amount of time and have other things they plan to do with their loved ones after the ceremony. State school graduations can take a while under the best of circumstances, so personally I'd be pretty annoyed depending on the number of people who decide to stroll. If it's not that many, fine. If it's a lot? Yeah, I dunno...
I don't disagree with you about the shoving being uncalled for and absolutely unprofessional, though. If this is a tradition that they can expect some students to do when coming up on stage, they should have figured out a non-physical solution to disincentivise this by now.
I don't really understand the outrage here. The students knew this was gonna happen and did it anyway. You can tell cuz they were smiling even as he moved them along.
Also that dude still dancing while being bear hugged is hilarious.
Also that dude still dancing while being bear hugged is hilarious.
The manhandler doesn't give a shit. He was grabbing them the second their foot touched the staged.
Kind of unrelated, but they probably don't owe that much at all. Florida is ranked as one of the best in the nation in secondary education for a reason,
and University of Florida still has some very cheap tuition even after it has been raised bit by bit over the last decade or so.
Back on topic, it's bullshit how aggressive he is being but I don't think the guy doing the pushing is being racist. A bit of an ass maybe but I think it's worth
pointing out that UF has one of the highest undergrad counts in the entire country (I think like #3) so the ceremonies are INCREDIBLY LONG even if everyone does play nice.
I actually skipped my ceremony and just had my diploma mailed to me because I didn't want to fuck with a 5-6 hour ceremony.
https://twitter.com/TomlinMedia/status/993550385359998978
"Greg Tomlin @TomlinMedia
Here is a collage I made, showing the staff member at UF dealing with students of all races who are showboating on stage. The more elaborate the celebration, the more firmly he deals with the students. This is not a case of racism, folks. Sorry.
"
"Greg Tomlin @TomlinMedia
Here is a collage I made, showing the staff member at UF dealing with students of all races who are showboating on stage. The more elaborate the celebration, the more firmly he deals with the students. This is not a case of racism, folks. Sorry.
"
Weird thing to say - “sorry this isn’t racism”.
Going through that person’s Twitter feed it’s pretty clear they only made that video because it would fit their agenda.
I have no idea on the feed. I merely watched the video which shows the same behavior towards plenty of others.
It is good the school is changing the policy to keep their hands off the students.
according to that guy's twitter profile, he's a producer on the Michael Medved show. so yeah.
But - he didn't take all that video himself. He just took snippets that other people tweeted out, some of which were in the orginal tweet thread/stream/whatever you call those things.
But - he didn't take all that video himself. He just took snippets that other people tweeted out, some of which were in the orginal tweet thread/stream/whatever you call those things.
I've never heard of him but I also mostly listen to sports radio/ music and some news on the way to work. I saw his tweet embedded in another article. I wanted to post just the video but the embedding from twitter didn't work.
None of which changes what the video he made illustrates. But we knew that yesterday when multiple videos surfaced showing this usher harshly treating students regardless of color. The only thing they had in common was apparently they didn't adhere to whatever rules were given them prior to the ceremony.
Michael Medved is a conservative radio talk show host. I've never listened to his show so I don't know if he veers into Hannity/Rush territory, but it explains the comment about political agenda/bias
I hope not that bad. Those two are absurd freaks and reasons why I typically don't listen to political talk shows. There used to be some guy name Savage on the radio a few years back as well. I thought he was spoofing but apparently he is a real hardcore loud conservative. His blood pressure must be through the ceiling the way he talks. Blows my mind that they get air time.
Savage, that would be Michael Savage. He's actually the absolute worst out of all these guys, by a longshot.
Concert security doesn't throw band members off stage for dancing to their own music.
When I was in college he was always on during my commute times in the car. Sometimes I'd listen for entertainment purposes alone (same with O'Reilly back in the day, complete d-bag). Dude yells like a maniac, which made me bust up laughing in the car by myself a few times.
Obviously the guy was super intimidated by those sick moves on display and had no choice but to defend himself /s
TIL about strolling.
I'd have been annoyed, but that's because I hate sitting through these kinds of lame ass things anyway.
Luckily, I found a solution-- I skipped all my graduation ceremonies! Bachelors, so what. Masters, it's not a Ph.D.
If you want to celebrate, including but not limited to strolling, I see no problem with that. If someone really cares about their time being wasted, they can just skip the thing altogether. As for the staff member - you're paid to be there, a few extra minutes won't kill you.
I'd have been annoyed, but that's because I hate sitting through these kinds of lame ass things anyway.
Luckily, I found a solution-- I skipped all my graduation ceremonies! Bachelors, so what. Masters, it's not a Ph.D.
If you want to celebrate, including but not limited to strolling, I see no problem with that. If someone really cares about their time being wasted, they can just skip the thing altogether. As for the staff member - you're paid to be there, a few extra minutes won't kill you.
At my high school they told us if we threw our caps up into the air, they'd fine our parents. They went so far as to write our full names and addresses inside the cap so they'd know whose it was when it was thrown. So all we did was swap our caps with those of the nerds and threw theirs. They should have just hired a bouncer like UF did.
Yeah that first video is comical - must be the way it’s framed. The manhandling is completely unnecessary. The dancing is, I guess, a minor annoyance if you consider this a solemn event? Putting your hands on someone for having a different theshold of decorum is pretty stupid.
I don't think a 5-second dance on your way up to grab your diploma is all that bad. What's worse are the families and friends in the stands blowing air-horns, yelling, and screaming to the point that the families of those who are coming on stage next can't hear their names being called. Thankfully, my school kicked out people who did that.