Is there any indication that Fury never saw Carol again after she flew off at the end in the 90s?
It's only assumed. Personally I think it would ruin the impact of her return if she was coming back and forth again and again. It's like having a big tearful goodbye before you have to leave on a plane, only to run back because you forgot something.
I feel the opposite though? She wasn't saying goodbye for good to anyone. She was just going to help the Skrulls find a new home, and figure out what else is going on in the galaxy, and then come back to visit. It's been over 20 years, so the idea that she never returned to Earth ever just because there was "a lot to do" doesn't really jive. I think it's more likely she's been back, but the people she knows on Earth keep it a secret because they respect that she has commitments beyond Earth and it would be a complication for SHIELD to know about her specifically.
All the same, I do kinda want them to pair her up with Rhodey per the comics because how many interracial relationships do you see in mass media?
They retconned that in Winter Soldier. Maybe even before that. Coulson was having a laugh, there retcon explained.
This is probably the best argument. They even had a vested interest in Xandar and had no idea half the planet was killed and the stone taken.
Like Banner coming across Stark's phone from Steve on the floor in Infinity War. Convenient.
Convenience and movies go hand in hand, MCU is no exception.
Well all the exposition is pretty heavy handed. First on the kree planet, then Torfa, then her explaining all the shit to Fury.
The big problem with the first act is that there's no compelling reason to empathize with Carol. Assuming you're not at all familiar with the character and take everything at face value, they don't do a good job of making her interesting or setting up the mystery behind her origin. Even the way she wakes from her flashback makes it feel like something that's just normal for her rather than distressing. Carol doesn't really communicate directly with the audience in a way that makes you want to root for her, and she doesn't have any other character doing that for her either. Being emotionless at the start helps her overall arc but the lack of a strong POV character for the audience makes it tough to be engaged. Carol herself doesn't have an entertaining enough personality on her own to make up for it either. That's why the movie picks up for most people once she lands on Earth because you get to see her interact and play off of other characters in interesting ways. By the time she reconnects with Maria, a lot of people come around to rooting for her, but it takes longer than it should to get there. Imo, it would have been better had Carol had some narration during the opening or flashback, as cliches as that is, because the audience has a hard time understanding what she's going through when she's outwardly restrained from displaying emotion for plot reasons. Either that or the film should have opened with Starforce on a mission to grab attention and highlight their team dynamics. All of that is compounded by how much exposition is in the first few minutes. Any time a character has to say "you know this" after laying down exposition like Yon-Rogg does is just bad writing. There's like 10 minutes of straight exposition and then a mission that feels like it's supposed to have stakes but really doesn't give you a reason to care.
I felt like this about Carol through the whole movie. There was just nothing there for me to latch onto. Even when she regains some of her memories I couldn't get invested in her as a character or her relationships. The movie just didn't do the work to make me care. Throughout the whole thing I thought she was just kind of a snarky wisecrack machine who occasionally looks a bit sad or confused. When she appeared in the mid-credits scene it was super jarring to me because seeing her next to these three characters who feel like actual people was like... it felt like they jammed an action figure in there or something. Put it this way: the idea that Carol is going to be instrumental in bringing down Thanos makes me less excited for Endgame. I don't care about her as a character and she has next to no personal stake in the conflict, aside from Fury getting dusted. They really need to do work in Endgame to make me care about Carol's role in it other than just as the group's biggest stick (arguably alongside Thor maybe?).
I thought she was shown bleeding blue, but that may have been during her altered flashback to the crash.
Yes, she bleeds blue. In the full flashback to the crash though, it's red which is changed from the one at the start of the film where it's blue.
Pretty sure she bleeds blue again at some point too but I can't remember exactly when. But yeah, the kree changed her memories
Blue, right? Think she had a bloodied nose in one of the fight scenes.
My point is that I don't think there's a single MCU character who had their own movie that still felt like such a cardboard cut-out at the end of it, in my opinion. Your response reads pretty hostile btw.
Thor was pretty cardboard after his first 2 movies. Dr Strange was too. No personal stake in anything either except...it's his home.
I get where you're coming from but disagree that she didn't become a real character by the end. That she's a blank slate at the start was by design so we could see her come into her own. It also ties into the feminist themes about resisting repression and accepting oneself. It's just that they didn't appropriately balance it out with other interesting characters until they got to Earth.
Disagree. Thor had a clear arc in Thor 1 (I am also a rare Thor 1 liker). That scene where Odin casts him out has more pathos than all of Cap Marvel. Thor 2 was not a good movie but I still enjoyed seeing Thor and Loki. I think Captain Marvel is a bad movie and an extremely flimsy character, it has nothing to do with recency, I know my own feelings pretty well, so don't project stuff that I didn't say.
why bother when he found local people who won every time and part of the time people thought he was dead
"Manchild grows up, proves himself worthy of sex" is not the only character arc or story that exists, but it's apparently the only one that "internet critics" recognize as an arc.
