[Unmarked Spoilers] Devil May Cry 5 - Spoiler Thread (It has begun...)

Mar 18, 2018
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Really feel that what little possibility the story had could have been improved had Nero properly confronted Vergil about V and Urizen.

Maybe have Vergil explain that he had no idea what Urizen would do, or that V was genuinely trying to do what he thought was right, or something. Would have added a bit more clarity, explanation, depth and possibly reason.

Cus as it is, most of the story is kind of meaningless. Everything is cast aside and the twist brings turns it all into yet another more petty version of the Dante Vs Vergil fight, so the rest of the entire game has no consequence or meaningful effect on the anything other than an overly complicated lead up.

The only thing that matters in the story is merely Nero's presence, as whatever lesson he apparently learned comes from a Deus ex phone call with Kyrie and not from the rest of the game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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vergil the based god

I fucking love how he looks in this game. I've seen the hair Photoshops and the face swap mods, but none of them look as good as this. That's my boy right there.

The only thing I'm not crazy about is recolouring his coat black, but at least you can unlock the EX Costume that makes him blue again. It's just a shame they didn't do an EX Costume for Dante that turns his coat back to red instead of faded maroon, but I'm sure there's a mod coming for that.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I fucking love how he looks in this game. I've seen the hair Photoshops and the face swap mods, but none of them look as good as this. That's my boy right there.

The only thing I'm not crazy about is recolouring his coat black, but at least you can unlock the EX Costume that makes him blue again. It's just a shame they didn't do an EX Costume for Dante that turns his coat back to red instead of faded maroon.
It's kinda weird that Vergil's default color scheme is inverted from DMC3 and 4. He has the same OUTFIT on but the undercoat is blue and the outer coat is black, whereas in 3 and 4 it was a blue outer coat and a black undercoat.
 
Fun facts:
  • Because Dante stabs himself with his own sword DMC2 is the only game where he doesn’t get impailes with his own sword
  • Nero has stabbed both his uncle and father with their own swords
  • Dante says Aidos to Nero . That’s also what he says to him at the end of mission 1 in DMC4
  • Trish is now voiced by Wendee Lee. That makes another person involved with Power Rangers included in this series
  • DMC 2 is the only game where Vergil doesn’t make an appearance
I’ll think of more later lol
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Was messing with SSS taunts to see them in game.

Saw V's 2 music ones.
Saw Nero air guitar and camera reel one.

I was doing Dante's and did I get the right ones? One where he goes you 'you got your ass kicked' and a different underwhelming with boring in the line?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It is more or less the exact same as the treatment you were supposed to give Sanctus at the end of DMC4 when he is doing the dashing charges with Sparda. Though he gets a fist instead of wrestling moves.

On that note, out of all the Buster moves I've seen, I still like the one in the first Sanctus fight the most. It is not the most stylish or outright violent, but there is something primal about the beatdown Nero lays on him.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I hadn't seen V's execution animation for Vergil.



It's...uncomfortably intimate.

On that note, out of all the Buster moves I've seen, I still like the one in the first Sanctus fight the most. It is not the most stylish or outright violent, but there is something primal about the beatdown Nero lays on him.
That one was very memorable, just beating the shit out of an old man. Who did more than deserve it, but still.
 
I fucking love how he looks in this game. I've seen the hair Photoshops and the face swap mods, but none of them look as good as this. That's my boy right there.

The only thing I'm not crazy about is recolouring his coat black, but at least you can unlock the EX Costume that makes him blue again. It's just a shame they didn't do an EX Costume for Dante that turns his coat back to red instead of faded maroon, but I'm sure there's a mod coming for that.
I agree. The mods are impressive but the vanilla model looks amazing.
I was weirded out at first, ngl. But after a few scenes he definitely fit.
My headcanon is his body is younger than Dante's. After the Mundus debacle, splitting himself and eating the fruit.
Something had to happen to his body after all that.


EX mod is out btw, saw it yesterday. Replaces his black attire.
 
Really feel that what little possibility the story had could have been improved had Nero properly confronted Vergil about V and Urizen.

Maybe have Vergil explain that he had no idea what Urizen would do, or that V was genuinely trying to do what he thought was right, or something. Would have added a bit more clarity, explanation, depth and possibly reason.

Cus as it is, most of the story is kind of meaningless. Everything is cast aside and the twist brings turns it all into yet another more petty version of the Dante Vs Vergil fight, so the rest of the entire game has no consequence or meaningful effect on the anything other than an overly complicated lead up.

The only thing that matters in the story is merely Nero's presence, as whatever lesson he apparently learned comes from a Deus ex phone call with Kyrie and not from the rest of the game.
 
I hope when Bloody Palace comes that it isn't a linear thing but that you can choose which encounter comes next, like Bayonettas Coop mode. Would make it infinitely more replayable.
I was playing through 3s Bloody Palace in the lead up to DMC5, and I like how it was handled there. 9999 levels, with options to go up by 100, 10 or 1. The 1 stage gave a green orb and the 10 gave a purple(?) orb. I wouldn't mind something like that again.

No timers though. You hear me Itsuno? No. Timers.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I was playing through 3s Bloody Palace in the lead up to DMC5, and I like how it was handled there. 9999 levels, with options to go up by 100, 10 or 1. The 1 stage gave a green orb and the 10 gave a purple(?) orb. I wouldn't mind something like that again.

No timers though. You hear me Itsuno? No. Timers.
I didn't like that setup because it's basically just 99 levels. There's no reason to not jump 100 levels everytime since the orb refills were at set intervalls.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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With all the threads the recent time about what DMC thingy is best in what, why hasn’t Vergil one yet? There is even one for Nero, who’s present in less games.
But on the other hand, even with the final trailer, his presence is still kinda spoilery, I guess. ^^
Also only true anwser would be 3 anyway.
Because it's less than a week old game spoiler maybe
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The way the final boss fight was being built up to, I really thought it was going to be a 1v1v1 between D, V, and Nee, but the hype from that would have been too much. It already reached dangerously high enough levels as is.
I would not be terribly surprised if the plan *at some point* had not been to use the network sharing functionality for the final boss fight.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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With all the threads the recent time about what DMC thingy is best in what, why hasn’t Vergil one yet? There is even one for Nero, who’s present in less games.
But on the other hand, even with the final trailer, his presence is still kinda spoilery, I guess. ^^
Also only true anwser would be 3 anyway.
I would be interested to see peoples thoughts on why they thought otherwise. His character really takes a steaming dump in 5 I feel
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Peak narcissism, just like Zamasu.

I hadn't seen V's execution animation for Vergil.



It's...uncomfortably intimate.



That one was very memorable, just beating the shit out of an old man. Who did more than deserve it, but still.
but how is this possible? A mod of pc to uncover the bloody palace files? Since vergil doesnt face V in any part of the history so this must be bloody palace boss.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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but how is this possible? A mod of pc to uncover the bloody palace files? Since vergil doesnt face V in any part of the history so this must be bloody palace boss.
V has execution animations for every boss (with, I think, ground/aerial/Nightmare variations for each), just as Nero has Buster finisher animations for every boss (with, I think, a DT variation for each), regardless of whether they fight them in the main game.

And yeah, it’s totally for the Bloody Palace.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I guess it has something to do with Yamato,perhaps?
One of nico's reports says that Yamato is the embodiment of the god of death.
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if Yamato being repaired in DMC4 and Nero gaining his first, ghost-of-Vergil kinda DT has to do with Vergil being resurrected or revived (which is why he not only made a beeline for the Yamato, he also took Nero’s arm).
 
Oct 28, 2017
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With all the threads the recent time about what DMC thingy is best in what, why hasn’t Vergil one yet? There is even one for Nero, who’s present in less games.
But on the other hand, even with the final trailer, his presence is still kinda spoilery, I guess. ^^
Also only true anwser would be 3 anyway.
Hey, I made those threads.

I was gonna make this one next, but I'm not sure how to avoid spoilers because I'd have to include V and Urizen. And putting DMC5 spoilers in the title makes it REALLY obvious he's in the game. Not like everyone didn't already know, but, you know, spoiler culture...

How exactly did Vergil come back when he disintegrated on Mallet Island as Nelo Angelo?
The same way Dante came back from Hell, which is we don't know.

There's a lot of room for a Vergil DLC if they choose to make one. I hope it would take place between DMC1 and 4.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I forgot that the Yamato was broken tbh. Was it ever answered when and where it happened and how the Yamato ended up in Fortuna?
The DMC4 novel says that Agnus found it in the outskirts of Fortuna.

It's stated in 4's enemy files that the Angelo enemies were made from the fragments of a Demon known as the Dark Angel (aka Nelo Angelo), so I guess it end up near Fortuna after Mallet Island was destroyed.

I suppose the sword Nelo Angelo used could have been a Transfomed/Corrupted Yamato and it broke after the battle with Dante.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe there's a reason why they scratched out Sparda's hair in the ingame portrait. Is that a judge's wig...?
Man....What time period does the DMC universe take place? Lol
The DMC4 novel says that Agnus found it in the outskirts of Fortuna.

It's stated in 4's enemy files that the Angelo enemies were made from the fragments of a Demon known as the Dark Angel (aka Nelo Angelo), so I guess it end up near Fortuna after Mallet Island was destroyed.

I suppose the sword Nelo Angelo used could have been a Transfomed/Corrupted Yamato and it broke after the battle with Dante.
Sparda swords seem to have a mind of their own maybe the sword was looking for Nero?
 
Because it's less than a week old game spoiler maybe
Hmmm, that’s why I called it kinda spoilery, I guess? :3

I would be interested to see peoples thoughts on why they thought otherwise. His character really takes a steaming dump in 5 I feel
Yeah, my heart’s still broken.
But it seems to depent highly on your personal opinion of Vergil. A lot of people always thought of him as a bad guy through and through with a high body count. They shouldn’t care much about the change that was made. A few days ago I got into a stupid argument over this on another place.

Hey, I made those threads.

I was gonna make this one next, but I'm not sure how to avoid spoilers because I'd have to include V and Urizen. And putting DMC5 spoilers in the title makes it REALLY obvious he's in the game. Not like everyone didn't already know, but, you know, spoiler culture...
I didn’t mean to come across hostile? (And not all of the threads I thought of are yours. :p)

That was my second thought as well, yes. Doesn’t allow some nice Vergil avas either. ^^



Maybe there's a reason why they scratched out Sparda's hair in the ingame portrait. Is that a judge's wig...?
Ewwww, didn’t Nevan say he was a handsome devil?
That portrait is kinda creepy anyway. It also still baffles me, that he lived with them so long. The newspaper article about the attack on the house talks about Eva living with twins, but a husband isn’t mentioned. As if nobody ever saw daddy Sparda.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Man....What time period does the DMC universe take place? Lol

Sparda swords seem to have a mind of their own maybe the sword was looking for Nero?
Eva probably wasn't a 2000-year old witch, but both her and Sparda being millenia old would probably explain why they got family oil portraits done and had hand-bound books for their heritage-listed manor. Otherwise, they were just really committed to their aesthetic.

Ewwww, didn’t Nevan say he was a handsome devil?
That portrait is kinda creepy anyway. It also still baffles me, that he lived with them so long. The newspaper article about the attack on the house talks about Eva living with twins, but a husband isn’t mentioned. As if nobody ever saw daddy Sparda.
He looks pretty similar to this game's version of Vergil, he's just wearing an inexplicable Isaac Newton wig.

 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah the games have always been kind of vague on whether Sparda’s age of heroism was 1000 years ago or, like, 40 years ago.

I *think* the safe conclusion is that he sealed Mundus away (and saved the world) centuries before DMC1 but then retired to live in obscurity after that, possibly engaging in further adventures here and there.

The tougher bit to square is that DMC1’s backstory sure makes it sound like falling in love with Eva is the *reason* he turned on Mundus, but Eva, being human, was definitely not alive for centuries.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah the games have always been kind of vague on whether Sparda’s age of heroism was 1000 years ago or, like, 40 years ago.

I *think* the safe conclusion is that he sealed Mundus away (and saved the world) centuries before DMC1 but then retired to live in obscurity after that, possibly engaging in further adventures here and there.

The tougher bit to square is that DMC1’s backstory sure makes it sound like falling in love with Eva is the *reason* he turned on Mundus, but Eva, being human, was definitely not alive for centuries.
Time-travel romance has always been a big genre, maybe a runaway Geryon deposited her 2000 years in the past, they met and fell in love; and Sparda sent her back after the Mundus drama, promising to wait centuries for her.
 
There is this weird sentence, that he brought Mundus down for his love's sake (dunno were it appeared right now, though. I guess in some of the ingame documents stuff?)
But it was always said he sealed him 2000 years ago and lived among humans from then on. They praised him first but started to forget until he turned into a myth. (They even used that for the story recap video.)
People would tell his storys, but as a fairytail, and only people like Arkham and Agnus would still know the truth.
In the prequel novel Matier made him sound like quite the womanizer, who forgot women's names fast. Eva musn't have been his first wife...
He looks pretty similar to this game's version of Vergil, he's just wearing an inexplicable Isaac Newton wig.
ಠ_ಠ Maybe in his bad shots, yeah...