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[UNMARKED SPOILERS] Kingdom Hearts III & ReMind DLC- Spoiler Thread
- Thread starter vestan
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You can see Vexen returned to be human in the end credits.
Do you think that they had to kill their nobodies again to recomplete them? I wonder who ended up doing it, and how on earth anyone would convivce Demyx to let them kill him lol.
I really did enjoy KH3 from start to finish and enjoyed the story it told. There was, however, one thing that really got under my skin: Axel and Kairi got thrown so far under the bus, their bodies got stuck in the wheel.
What I mean by this is how it felt like out of the "Seven Lights," they accomplished literally nothing. One gets his keyblade broke really quick and made me think "Alright! Axel is going to break out his Chakrams and we are going to fight with him as the 13th struggle plays-" and he is just sidelined for the rest of the time. Meanwhile Kairi gets all this build up to finally be able to fight with Sora, but not only is she taken out rather easy, but she GETS HERSELF KILLED!
At least in the case of the other people you team up with, you can say they were up against really powerful enemies or outnumbered, thus it would make sense why Sora would need to come in to help. But man that part really pissed me off. It was nice to have Xion back and dual wielding Roxas, but you could have had something awesome like a 5 on 1 against Saix and make it seem like he is so far gone and overpowered that everyone had to work together just to at least stop him. Maybe after that, you could make it where Axel is taken out of the fight and Kairi gets captured, but to do it where you only fight with them for a minute at best? Could have been better handled.
What I mean by this is how it felt like out of the "Seven Lights," they accomplished literally nothing. One gets his keyblade broke really quick and made me think "Alright! Axel is going to break out his Chakrams and we are going to fight with him as the 13th struggle plays-" and he is just sidelined for the rest of the time. Meanwhile Kairi gets all this build up to finally be able to fight with Sora, but not only is she taken out rather easy, but she GETS HERSELF KILLED!
At least in the case of the other people you team up with, you can say they were up against really powerful enemies or outnumbered, thus it would make sense why Sora would need to come in to help. But man that part really pissed me off. It was nice to have Xion back and dual wielding Roxas, but you could have had something awesome like a 5 on 1 against Saix and make it seem like he is so far gone and overpowered that everyone had to work together just to at least stop him. Maybe after that, you could make it where Axel is taken out of the fight and Kairi gets captured, but to do it where you only fight with them for a minute at best? Could have been better handled.
Everyone was done dirty.
Literally no one other than Sora actually wins a fight other than Roxas's 30 seconds of spotlight before he's never seen from again.
Should have played as Riku to fight Ansem, Roxas to fight Xemnas, Aqua to fight Terranort etc, and everyone should have been given some time in the spotlight. But instead it's the Sora show.
I think Old Xehanort with the uber keyblade being the final boss was the correct choice, what we saw of Terranort wasn't that different from Xehanort's Heartless. Old Xehanort as the original mastermind provides a better contrast to previous final boss. It also made Xehanort appear more fallible and vulnerable when Eraqus shows up to unarm him which was an interesting resolution to the battle. Another final battle against the young looking Xehanort sounds more boring.
Am I bugging or was the voice direction better in KH2? It's so forced in KH3 and Sora became progressively dumber.
you're bugging. It's always been terrible.
There are just a few exceptionally talented moments.
Like take Larxene in KH3.
You watch just her scenes and you'd think KH3's vocal direction was top notch.
Let's take out the kairi gets captured part entirely while we at it plZ it was such an eye rolling moment
Guys remember when Riku got his body back through explosion because "Hey, he said anything could happen!"
That was fun
That was fun
Do you guys think Sora, Riku and Kairi ever visited their parents? Lol They go back to Destiny Island so much, I know they get brought up barely in some of the games.
Finally sat down and finished this. Straight up 4.5 hours of ugly crying.
From the keyblades of the past (it was so heartwarming), all the reuniting, to S/D/G team ups (they make me weep), to the ending shot, even though I know it won't stick, it broke my heart.
Amazing. Exactly everything I wanted. Opens up some new threads, closes some old ones, epilogue and teaser hint at strange things to come.
I thiiiiink, if they had broken up the Keyblade Graveyard a bit, it would have fixed the issues most people have with the pacing?
Same story stuff, but perhaps midway through (maybe after Arendelle?), they save Aqua and Ven, and head to the graveyard. The intensely decisive first blow from the darkness (lol), Sora saves everyone, and then they all go "hey, whoa, that wasn't great" and step back for another couple worlds to "regain our strength". I dunno. But I also see why it rushed to the end after Aqua and Ven were rescued—basically once all the lights were assembled, Xehanort was probably going to go at them hard, so they had to go meet him.
I enjoyed the whole thing, top to bottom. ❤️
Bring on KH4 or 3.5 or 2 Hearts^104, I don't care. More!
From the keyblades of the past (it was so heartwarming), all the reuniting, to S/D/G team ups (they make me weep), to the ending shot, even though I know it won't stick, it broke my heart.
Amazing. Exactly everything I wanted. Opens up some new threads, closes some old ones, epilogue and teaser hint at strange things to come.
I thiiiiink, if they had broken up the Keyblade Graveyard a bit, it would have fixed the issues most people have with the pacing?
Same story stuff, but perhaps midway through (maybe after Arendelle?), they save Aqua and Ven, and head to the graveyard. The intensely decisive first blow from the darkness (lol), Sora saves everyone, and then they all go "hey, whoa, that wasn't great" and step back for another couple worlds to "regain our strength". I dunno. But I also see why it rushed to the end after Aqua and Ven were rescued—basically once all the lights were assembled, Xehanort was probably going to go at them hard, so they had to go meet him.
I enjoyed the whole thing, top to bottom. ❤️
Bring on KH4 or 3.5 or 2 Hearts^104, I don't care. More!
They were at least kind enough to give us a literal deus ex machina to resolve that.
Just finished this today. Still unpacking all my thoughts but the most important thing is that Demyx is still the best Organization XIII member.
KH2 actually has quite possibly the worst voice acting in the series.
Even Terra and Aqua in BBS have better performances than a large majority of KH2's characters. KH3's performances are certainly not great, but they are nowhere near the lows of 2.
Also, KH2 is when Sora suddenly turned into a dumb five-year-old with the body of a fifteen-year-old. His portrayal in KH3 is just consistent with how he's been since 2.
Hmm checked the comments on a random FB advertisement and was (pleasantly?) surprised to see people disappointed with the game (easy difficulty, all the story crammed into the end, lack of content etc).
Makes it feel like it's not just me being a hardcore nerd whining on the internet but that the more casual parts of the audience feel similarly.
Makes it feel like it's not just me being a hardcore nerd whining on the internet but that the more casual parts of the audience feel similarly.
You're not the only one to say or think this. I think so as well and several other people have agreed with me in this thread.
Something about it felt so much more natural, so entertaining. The dialogue and direction was great. Watching this goofball interact with a stone cold scientist and the antics that ensued reminded me a LOT of like, a Disney Channel original TV show.
Finally completed this game and after 13 years of waiting for a sequel, I must say this is probably the most disappointing game of the entire generation for me. I can go on and on on why but it pretty much has been summed in several other threads.
At this point, I just want to know if someone can point me to a post or place that succinctly summarizes the end credits scene as well as the secret ending because google is giving me convoluted search results.
At this point, I just want to know if someone can point me to a post or place that succinctly summarizes the end credits scene as well as the secret ending because google is giving me convoluted search results.
Sora abused the power of waking to bring Kairi back but he was lost in the process. Now he's in The World Ends With You's Shibuya and presumably will play the Reaper's Game for a second chance at life.
Ok, please also explain a lot of those key phrases and words you typed if you dont mind. (Such as the world ends with you, reapers game, etc)
Any guide for synthesis farming? Most list I find online online show the recipe list which is useless since it's in the game already. I need to know where to find material like hungry gem etc
The world ends with you is a really old game by Square Enix for Nintendo DS. Apparently the premise of the game is that you, the player are dead and had to participate in Reaper game for the chance to be revived.
Don't know much about it, Haven't played it myself beyond the tutorial. The characters from that game appear in Kingdom Hearts DDD
I think this alone would have made the pacing way better.
Maybe not all of KH2, but I do feel like the extra KH2FM cutscenes had better voice direction.
You're right. As bad as not-Keira Knightley was, no one in the game (or any other game in the series) has sunk to the low that was Aerith in KH2.
Aqua and Terra were standouts this time around.
World Ends With You is another Square Enix game, in this game you die you can have a second chance at life by competiting in a competition called "The Reapers Game".
TWEWY is another Nomura directed game. The characters were in Dream Drop Distance.
I was just happy that Donald and Goofy were even present for the final battle, even more so that they get the final blow alongside Sora.
I was expecting a Sora Vs Xehanort "1v1 me inside kingdom hearts noob" kinda deal, tbh
Nomura didn't direct TWEWY. He was somewhat involved creatively but the game was mostly developed by Jupiter.
Omg, thank you, that will be really useful
Then you also have the potential of having some of the Organization hinting that Sora has overused the power of waking. I feel dark Riku would have had a hayday with it lol.
However...I also can't help but admire how relentless the ending as it was, was. Lol. That was a solid 4.5 hours of insanity for me, and I was basically on and off crying from both joy and sadness the entire time lol. So... I can't decide which way might have been best. haha.
I'm so happy Donald and Goofy were with Sora at the end. That would have been my biggest disappointment. The games, to me, are "Sora....Donald....Goofy", so having them there, and yeah, that final moment (them holding Sora up!) meant everything to me. One of my biggest "burst into tears" moment (of many).
Yeah, while I would have loved to have seen Aqua and Ven a bit earlier n the game, the whole final 5 hours of 3 are just so magnificent that I can't really complain about the structure too much.
I just wish we got a few more scenes with Roxas and Xon during the end game stuff.
I just wish we got a few more scenes with Roxas and Xon during the end game stuff.
Every other thread on Era has people saying the same stuff, even the non-kh related ones. So yeah, you're not special or alone on this.
Personally i feel it's a flawed game, but at the same time i'm satisfied with what i played. Especially in terms of the artistry involved. Gameplay was top notch, it just needed to be more limited in all the stuff you could pull off.
Yeah this.
Voicing criticism in a positive way will only make the game even better
I think KH3 suffered a bit from DDD. (to be honest I think the whole franchise suffered from DDD). DDD's plot elements aside, the fact that the game exists I think takes away from KH3. This isn't COM situation when new plot and lore is introduced, DDD is basically a KH3 prologue with the way it is setting up plot points and moving the story forward. I think KH3 would have had more story to tell if the real organisation and time travel would have been revealed in the middle of it. I mean DDD is already pretty light on story to stretch into the whole game (basically there's about 2 hours of story at the end) so that could have easily been fit in KH3.
Also I will also begrudge DDD for basically taking away BBS Vol 2.
It would make it worse imo.
Having a sequence where you go to the end-game dungeon, but is met with "oops, your level is too low, go grind further" would be a real downer piece to suddenly go do another 10 hours of content before final arc.
If I were allowed the privelege to add/remix content here and there, this would be how I do it.
- Move the Anti-Aqua fight to the 60% mark of Disney World
- Make it so that there's a short level where you play as Sora going through the Realm of Darkness before reaching Aqua/Riku/Mickey
- After successfully saving Aqua, she falls into a deep sleep due to the build-up fatigue and due to the darkening side-effect.
- Have some random reason to go to one of the Disney worlds would be to find something that'd help Aqua recover better/faster/etc.
- In between that, also have a sequence where Sora stops by Radiant Garden to try and revive Roxas, but isn't able to due to (reasons)
- At 80% mark, Aqua is restored and now there's a mission to find the way to Castle Oblivion.
- Insert some random story reason to explain why last Disney world has the gateway or shortcut or some way to reach Castle Oblivion and you have Aqua in your party during that last Disney world.
- At 100% mark, you rescue Ven.
- Make it so that Castle Oblivion/Land of Departure is a small labyrinth level where you have to climb up to the top floor to unlock/restore the place
- Rescue Ven
- Proceed to KBW
That way, you'd have Ven's rescue happen later after Aqua's rescue but doesn't feel out of place as to why Aqua didn't immediately go to rescue Ven. And there's story reasons to have more of Aqua involved in the story ( allows more speculation about where's Terranort, etc etc ) among other things.
Would also be good. I dunno, I was just throwing around breaking up the ending 5 hours after having just done it. I'm still emotionally shattered lol.
What you have above would have been cool.
I dunno! I'm still really happy with what I just played haha.
My thoughts exactly.
I think potential DLC has a better base to improve from than KH2FM did with its vanilla release, though (Though I'm not sure if I'm alone for thinking that)
For example, as godlike as Cavern of Remembrance is, it's still more or less a band-aid solution for KH2's level design issue.
I was really wanting to be there for when Roxas and Ventus finally talked to each other. All we got was that little look when they ran into each other.
I think that merits more than being thrown into the middle of the ending, so I'm pretty confident we'll see some scene with them talking in the next game (or maybe some post-ending DLC?).
Now I'm really imagining funny situations where Roxas, Ven and Xion swap stories about what being inside Sora's heart was like.
hahaha man oh man kingdom hearts there is really no other game like it.