The only reason is for fanservice. Xehanort never would've bothered with someone like Xion who's already turned on the Org once.
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[UNMARKED SPOILERS] Kingdom Hearts III & ReMind DLC- Spoiler Thread
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The only reason is for fanservice. Xehanort never would've bothered with someone like Xion who's already turned on the Org once.
I'd imagine having 13 Xehanorts around the same age at the same peak time would cause major ego issues, like why is he in charge, why do I do this and he does that etc.
This works better with KH2 Xemnas so now we can pretend the terribleness of DDD never happened.
But I mean Marluxia and Larxene are straight up traitors too and smarter ones at that.
If you can believe that Xehanort would invite them in then you can believe Xion would be invited in too.
We should just summarize things in one word: "Nomura".
Simple, minimalist, and explains all.
Simple, minimalist, and explains all.
One of my favorite scenes in the game was Hayner, Pence, and Olette saving Ansem the Wise. That was a fun little moment, and it was neat seeing these powerless side characters actually contribute something. Hell they probably did more than Riku in this game.
He's moved onto the Master of Masters knowing what happens next and trolling us all in the meantime.
Could have sworn it was without a question mark, guess it's still up in the air though. My headcanon is he got recompleted with how he basically went off of that cliff ending himself and was recompleted. (though if he wanted i'm sure he could have survived) It's interesting too that Demyx is specified as coming becoming human again.
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Yen Sid: "Whenever you are in need, magic happens. That is your greatest strength, Sora."
That about sums up KH's writing.
Let's be honest: Kingdom Hearts' writing is terrible, by all accounts. It remains entertaining, until the day the fanbase gets fed up.
There are so many things that could have been handled better, but I have no illusions left whatsoever about Nomura and his writing team. They're just bad.
There are so many things that could have been handled better, but I have no illusions left whatsoever about Nomura and his writing team. They're just bad.
I got to the final boss two weeks ago and turned off the game because I realized it was the final boss and I was not enjoying it that much. I just turned it back on today and beat it. I have to say - I haven't been this disappointed in a major release since MVCI.
This isn't as bad as MVCI, but damn - what a huge letdown. I'd definitely rank it below 1,2, and BBS, and by a large margin as well.
I literally mashed X on proud mode against everything except the final boss and steamrolled the game.
Also, super confused on the very last part of the ending.
This isn't as bad as MVCI, but damn - what a huge letdown. I'd definitely rank it below 1,2, and BBS, and by a large margin as well.
I literally mashed X on proud mode against everything except the final boss and steamrolled the game.
Also, super confused on the very last part of the ending.
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WTF anyone seen that Ardyn dlc for FFXV trailer? He does that square signature with his fingers like the Master of Masters does in the KH3 secret ending!
Around the 56 second mark. NOMURA
Around the 56 second mark. NOMURA
Isn't that just a thing people do for framing?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FingerFraming
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FingerFraming
Kingdom Hearts has never had good writing but that's okay because it's never been framed as a well-written series. It's a really fun and entertaining but dumb game not Shakespeare.
I'm gonna be so sad when the DLC sucks and it isn't Olympus Coliseum and Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden :(
Well, I don't think anyone wants or expects some Shakespearian writing from this series.
But when said series is extra-convoluted, has terrible pacing, multiplies retcons, pull things out of thin air without explanation, introduces Deus Ex Machina, treats its characters pretty badly and/or introduces "-Sue" like characters, you know you have a problem. There are countless stories with better writing than KH. Some fanfictions are better written than KH.
I'm all for fun and not overthinking things, but this series need to improve its writing drastically.
At this point would it still be reasonable to expect FF characters in the DLC?
Or is that just wishful thinking? I mean they created a model for Leon and some others so it would be a waste not to..
Or is that just wishful thinking? I mean they created a model for Leon and some others so it would be a waste not to..
most fanfiction is better than KH.
KH fanfiction is the only chance Kairi has at being an actual character and fans have picked up on that, ran with it, and knocked it out of the park. if it weren't for fic i wouldn't be able to tolerate Kairi. at all. but thankfully i've gotten to experience her in the hands of competent writers who actually care enough to give her development. and now she's my daughter :-)
I think it's a fairly safe assumption there will at least be some FF/Square Enix boss fights.
At this point, the insanely bad writing is part of its charm.
Unless there's a reboot, it will always be convoluted because of the lore introduced.
I think it's possible for them to start fresh without rebooting but nomura willingly passes up basically every oppurtunity to do so.
I can't imagine there's a reason for them to start fresh either. Presenting every single Kingdom Hearts product as required reading has been profitable for them.
I can't imagine there's a reason for them to start fresh either. Presenting every single Kingdom Hearts product as required reading has been profitable for them.
Unless they're going to add story segments to Olympus to reintroduce them or the Colisseum, I don't think this is actually a given. They're already working on some sort of plan for the next game, so they'll probably continue in the tradition of introducing a superboss that's got something to do with the next entry.
The last 2-3 hours of the game are definitely the best parts of it, but even then I have a ton of issues. Nothing prior to that point in the story was important at all so the big revelations and events that occur are all smushed into this breakneck 2-3 hour block so everything seems rushed and nothing seems satisfying. I should have had alot more emotional investment in each of the Org falling.
Also that Lich fight was so awful.
Also that Lich fight was so awful.
That makes sense.
We've always been told that the nobodies are the leftover bodies.
Now instead of being instantly regenerated, they slowly regenerate when they come back.
I need all of the chapter titles so that I know the true hierarchy in the trios
Aqua rightfully above Ventus and Terra.
I can see how some would feel that way too, the whole game in general is a narrative mess. I never found myself caring about anything going on until those those 3 hours though, and it was executed so poorly that the only reason I felt anything was because of nostalgia. It was like they were just checking off boxes that they had to to end the story without earning any of it.
The gameplay itself was so easy and un-engaging that I probably could have just watched it on Youtube and had the same experience TBH.
Okay so KH3 had a Naruto ending so we have to ask.
Obito vs. Xehanort
Sakura vs. Kairi
I like the ending fights a lot (was level 30 from the Keyblade Graveyard onward).
Obito vs. Xehanort
Sakura vs. Kairi
I like the ending fights a lot (was level 30 from the Keyblade Graveyard onward).
See, KH has always been a narrative mess, so I appreciate what good it does, which is why everything before the ending I enjoy.
Like Disney is irrelevant, but it's always irrelevant, but i at least enjoy the irrelevant Disney.
Graveyard through Scala is a fucking chore.
Hmm, the fights are interesting and varied at the end.
Toy Story and Pirates 3 were obviously the peaks of the game. The game is near GotY quality in those levels.
Big Hero 6 feels 5 months away from being finished.
Xehanort > Obito
Sakura > Kairi
The cast never actually forgives Xehanort, the world does, but the cast for the most part besides Eraqus is like "Fuck that guy."
Kairi never has any of Sakura's overwhelming lows, but she also has none of her highs.
I literally walked through those bosses.
And no, they really aren't. not compared to the bosses before. I will say the fights are more solid than most Disney fights, but they lack any of the gravitas or theatrics of any of those fights.
Well I was level 30 at the Keyblade Graveyard onward due to no XP.
I promise I don't mean this in the snotty way it might come off, but if the only parts of the series / stories you enjoy are the irrelevant Disney parts, why stick around in the spoiler thread this long? I'm legit curious, not angry you don't like it or hinting you should go away, haha. There's really not much discussion of the random stories in the Disney worlds or anything prior to rescuing Aqua really.
So, in the end of the day the concept of "norting" doesn't really amount to much does it?
No one lost their individuality, no one changed physically (yellow eyes notwithstanding) and, besides Xion, no one seemed to be there against their will. Xigbar's half-Xehanortness is effectively no different from any of the other Org members.
They created a possession/ transformation plot and didn't even milk any sort of drama from it besides "Is this the REAL Riku???????".
No one lost their individuality, no one changed physically (yellow eyes notwithstanding) and, besides Xion, no one seemed to be there against their will. Xigbar's half-Xehanortness is effectively no different from any of the other Org members.
They created a possession/ transformation plot and didn't even milk any sort of drama from it besides "Is this the REAL Riku???????".
Nah. Kairi isn't as bad as Sakura. Not even close.
Sakura's lows are so low that the average gets pulled down way below Kairi.
The worst you can say about Kairi is that she's irrelevant and motivation for the MC.
Sakura is just peak misogyny. She ends up with the man who tried to murder her because Kishimoto thought it would be messed up for her to change.
Sure, it all came to nothing like a lot of the series up to this point, lol.
It was a super happy ending for everyone except Nomura angsting over Versus 13.
They're just excuses so you can fight most of the bosses from the old games in a grand finale.