I wonder if we'll get beta images or footage from super mario 64. That's one game I would love to see some of that beta stuff from .
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Nintendo should make the most out of a bad situation. It has been already mentioned how they could create a sort of digital museum for rarities and unused stuff. They could even charge for it and I see many people would pay for the service. Another thing would be creating some sort of online academy for game development. The source code is already out there, so why not make a profit explaining what it does and what you can do with it?
This would not only benefit Nintendo but the industry. Game development is a very secretive craft, and many of the best practices are unknown not only to many indie developers, but to the public in general. A better understanding of the efforts that go into making a game could even make your audience understand why sometimes you need to delay a game or why it takes so long to finish making one.
This would not only benefit Nintendo but the industry. Game development is a very secretive craft, and many of the best practices are unknown not only to many indie developers, but to the public in general. A better understanding of the efforts that go into making a game could even make your audience understand why sometimes you need to delay a game or why it takes so long to finish making one.
As amazing as it is digging up these assets, it's frustrating that playable or compilable prototypes for this and SMW don't appear to be in there.
yeah, just lots of assets. still cool and i wouldn't be surprised if there is more to come.
Beta Link Walking Sprite
Doesn't look like the same sprite as this either:
I kinda hope they find the source code to Yoshi's Story.
I would love to see how it changed through development and to get an eventual mod for someone to make it harder.
I would love to see how it changed through development and to get an eventual mod for someone to make it harder.
Also given Nintendo licensed the original arcade DK (and DKJr) to Hamster for Arcade Archives releases, and there's no rights credit on them to Ikegami, I would assume Nintendo's since acquired any rights to that code too now.
I think it is believed to be from a press reveal of the Super Famicom. They used Zelda 2 as a sort of tech demo.
I feel for all the developers who are having their work laid bare, in a state it's never intended to be seen. And now folks are reaching out to Dylan and asking for context and explanations for some of the comments in code. That's gotta be frustrating.
On the other hand, I'm really enjoying the discoveries in this leak, and I think there's a lot to be learned from all of this.
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Looks so dope. Long sleeve tunic, white OOC leggings too.
OMFG this is amazing. Thank you. 31 years after knowing about Dragonfly, reading EGM issue #2 - their 4 page Super Nintendo / Super Famicom article in the summer of 1989.
Thank you andymcc and Rusty, and everyone who worked on getting this out there.
Edit: I have more to say about Dragonfly and Pilotwings, and more, which I'll write pretty soon in the next hour or so, but I only just woke up a little while ago and am in desperate need of coffee.
EGM #18 January 1991. Letters.
As mentioned though, DragonFly was actually repurposed into Pilotwings, a completely different game, not just a name change. Think of DragonFly as a concept / tech demo / game, which was never released on the Super Famicom, but its extensive use of Mode 7 laid the ground work for what would become Pilotwings. There was roughly 2 years between DragonFly being shown in late 1988, and Pilotwings being released in late 1990 in Japan. Another 9 months or so before the SNES released in the U.S.
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These two Donkey Kong sprites
It looks so much like the YI monkey, even has the same string of hair on the head.
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I want a game with this link so bad.
The higher frame rate one makes Link look really mobile and responsive, like a tight action platformer. I'd play it!
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Zelda II.
Zelda II.
That was my thought too, but then people mentioned there were some builds that require Windows, especially COM files. And they are all in the same repositories.
That doesn't mean there won't be ports, that just means they won't be legal.
Is distributing patch files illegal? Someone could've fixed a few bugs in the final builds of the retail versions and throw some patches on top of them.
It's almost certain that if this had gone to production that they'd have cut the frame rate. Especially as an early SNES game where they would be limited to 512-1024KB
when do they think these sprites came from? Zelda 3? i thought this was found elsewhere within this leak. maybe this is from the oft rumored Zelda II BS?
Wow, this is so cool to see! Early Zelda 3 concept or beta link to the past?Beta Link Walking Sprite
I thought the rule was don't talk about Flight ClubOMFG this is amazing. Thank you. 31 years after knowing about Dragonfly, reading EGM issue #2 - their 4 page Super Nintendo / Super Famicom article in the summer of 1989.
Thank you andymcc and Rusty, and everyone who worked on getting this out there.
Edit: I have more to say about Dragonfly and Pilotwings, and more, which I'll write pretty soon in the next hour or so, but I only just woke up a little while ago and am in desperate need of coffee.
EGM #18 January 1991. Letters.
As mentioned though, DragonFly was actually repurposed into Pilotwings, a completely different game, not just a name change. Think of DragonFly as a concept / tech demo / game, which was never released on the Super Famicom, but its extensive use of Mode 7 laid the ground work for what would become Pilotwings. There was roughly 2 years between DragonFly being shown in late 1988, and Pilotwings being released in late 1990 in Japan. Another 9 months or so before the SNES released in the U.S.
You mean 'number of frames', right? Since most games ran back then at a 60hz refresh rate as the standard.
It's a lot of frames sure but not something the SNES was incapable of. It's about as smooth as X's running animation I think:
Even if it was much later, it'd be hard to believe since they would have had to have similar high frame rate for all characters/enemies/sprites or it would stand out.
Unless it was going to end up in a SNES CD game, which isn't impossible.
That's got me wondering. Is there a first party game of Nintendo's that's unreleasable due to legal issues, that isn't because they flat out don't own the IP (i.e. Popeye, SimCity, Yoshi's Cookie or the Mike Tyson version of Punch-Out)?
It seems like every one deemed to be a "problem" has been released at least once. EarthBound, Donkey Kong 64, the SuperFX games, the arcade DK and DK Jr. Were they ever problems, or is Nintendo future-proofing them by clearing any legal hurdles for rereleases?
I can only hope that one of these leaks lead to a lot of new info on Satellaview games. There's a ton of mystery surrounding that thing with so much of it being basically lost media. Actually getting copies of the soundlink files that were broadcasted would be amazing.
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Wow, awesome work!Here's a sneak peek:
My friend on my n64 dev discord was able to figure out how to convert those .anm files for the SuperFX tests. That's probably the first ever 3D Yoshi animation ever made lol. Still working on converting the rest, will post them here.
Is he annoyed or truly frustrated? He's surprised mostly and even mentions wanting to see his old game X's source code.
He loves talking about old programming days and the methods they thought of back then. He'd just as easily could ignore questions about it.
It is still a copyright breach, nothing is "fine" about reprogramming a copyrighted game.
These preservation purist posts are infuriating.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
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If you take a copyrighted game and reverse engineer how it works and then reproduce the very same game, then this is a copyright breach. It is not necessary that you also steal the source code.
