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US hip hop star Talib Kweli has been disinvited from a German music festival after refusing to denounce the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS)
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German articles, sorry, but I'm at work and don't have much time to google for English ones at the moment.
It's deeply fucking ironic that identifying the state of Israel with all Jews is (correctly) called antisemitic, and yet it is one of the most common tactics used by the Israeli state and its defenders to discredit criticisms of the actions of Israel.
I guess if people criticized Saudi Arabia they Islamophobia as well
I have looked only over the Tagesspiegel article, but I wonder if you have even read it yourself? It's utter garbage.
They try to downplay regressive and discriminatory laws, because the source offers some which are questionable? What about this shit then?
Then the article goes on a full whataboutism route of "but why you are boycotting Israel and not the other Arab nations which feature much worse laws against minorities or women? - AHA! GOTCHA! You just hate Israel and Jews!"
Absolute tripe that I couldn't even finish reading. I hope your other sources are better.
I mean look at this shit. So they couldn't interview her, but somehow got her whole viewpoint and wrote it down? Do you think they've been fair in their writing here?
And this is the icing on the cake. So the BDS group apparently "lies" that Israel is co-organizing an event, because the Israeli embassy financially supported someone who is going to the event? Yes, organizing is not the right word, but they are still actively supporting it with governmental funds. For people who want to boycott Israel, that does not make any difference.
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I've just read this one so far(being an outlet I know), but geeze, I hope you just googled "BDS antisemitisch", and then posted it without reading it.
This is not a good article.
Edit: yeah, see above
I don't read German and had to resort to using Google Translate, but at least the other articles written by the author who did the TAZ article seem to be basically whataboutism. Never touching on the actions of the IDF and Israeli state, just going on and on about how other places are way worse than Israel and that means you just hate Jews.
You read all of these in the 7 minutes it took you to reply to that post? Also, are you capable of forming any thoughts of your own or are you just going to regurgitate links so others can speak for you?
Criticism of Israel is not criticism of Jewish identity or life.
The intention of BDS is pretty clear, you're right: it's for the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their home in Israel. The reason the Israeli government is against that is because it would mean the end of Israel as a majority Jewish ethnostate.
Believing that refugees should be allowed to return is not anti-semitic.
Well that's like saying being critical of Saudi Arabia's heinous actions is Islamophobic.
Europe drowning thousands of refugees in the Mediterranean every year is uncalled for.
Europe providing arms and military support to warlords and tyrannical regimes in Africa and the Middle East is uncalled for.
Europe having destroyed the world's climate, causing untold suffering across Africa and Asia, is uncalled for.
Europe hosting its biggest entertainment event in Israel, with a logo showing all of Palestine as Israeli territory, with performers using occupied Palestinian land as props, and having EU officials thank and boast of an unbreakable bond with Israel, while - minutes away - snipers shoot Palestinians who dare to protest their prison complex is uncalled for.
Europe whitewashing (and even celebrating) its millennia of enslavement, mass murder, and exploitation of African, Asian, and American people -- a pillaging that formed the foundation of modern Europe -- is uncalled for.
Attempting to censor criticism of European abuse of brown people in a thread about Europe censoring criticism of Israeli abuse of brown people. Okay.
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Well then read the linked article.
Europe is not a thing, we are all sovereign nations, something you US folks cant get through your thick skull. Its generalizing BS about an entire continent, like me saying Africa is a warzone. It makes no sense and is fucking stupid. This is als NOT a thread about any of that.
Open a fucking thread about any of these topics with specifics so we can talk about it, dont be a fucking cunt.
Yeah, was gonna say, Germany being particularly gung ho in this case, while a mistake and a bad call, isn't surprising.
It's still a disgrace that you immediately get targeted by big media outlets like "Bild" if you say something remotely critical of Israel.
It's ironic that the Palestinians ended up suffering for the actions of the German state after WW II. That's white colonialism for you. I wonder if the Germans ever consider the plight of the Palestinians in all this?
Of course we do. That's why we gift Israel submarines capable of nuking the entire Middle East into oblivion.
I would say the critique of the israeli goverment andais support of plagued Palestinians is pretty, just not openly vocal. I hate how fast that is used to paint people as anti-Semitist or right wing. Most politicians don't dare open their mouths, which is shameful.
And I love how 3bdelilah copped a warning but not the users with those garbage ass posts calling BDS supporters anti-semitic
When you think the ignorant couldn't get even more ignorant. Europe is a multitude of countries with many different types of government and policies. What bothers me is that had a person said "Asia is this way" or "Africa" or "America" it'd been called out as bull. But some hatefilled poster on Era calling an entire continent evil? f****** fine! Just don't be rude to another poster!
How has Europe destroyed the climate single-handedly?
Do you realize several nations of Europe support or acknowledge a Palestinian state?
Yes, I remember how the Scandinavians enslaved Americans, I recall how the Polish held Asians under their yoke and when the Finnish held a large African colony!
Pro-gothdang-tip; European nations have a ton of luggage, but most of them are working on acknowledging or rectifying that. Just made a bit harder when nazis supported by US and Russia try to turn back our democracy to zero so that we'll loose the small sense of unity we've built up during decades.
Arguing that Europe (which is
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ge...aly-for-saving-migrants-from-drowning.122728/
I never said single-handedly, but the EU has historically been the #1 or #2 emitter of greenhouse gases.
At most they provide nominal acknowledgement of the plight of the Palestinians while actively supporting Israeli conquest monetarily and/or militarily. Which of them boycotted the Israeli Eurovision? Which of them is supporting BDS?
Scandinavia and Finland were part of the Swedish empire, which was a major player in the African slave trade (and also had American colonies).If you don't remember this, you might want to brush up on your history. Poland, lacking access to the Atlantic and Mediterranean (as well as not being an independent nation during much of the colonial era), never had the historical opportunity to enslave Asians, but its recent behavior in invading/destabilizing Middle Eastern nations and the ensuing refugee crisis is hardly beyond reproach.
Russia and the US are bad actors, too, no doubt.
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The power Israel wields over other countries is kind of amazing to watch. I cant think of any other country (even the USA) getting away with this shit.
What are you talking about? That's just factually incredibly wrong. Europe is larger.
My bad. I was thinking EU when I wrote it (i.e., not counting European Russia and SE states).
Talib's a real one for that.
Fuck Israel. Support BDS or you're for apartheid, it's that simple.
Fuck Israel. Support BDS or you're for apartheid, it's that simple.
I agree but I dont bother telling people that because theyll ignore it. Israel has had a history of mistreating refugees and Jewish people from Africa who can trace their lineage. This is to say nothing about the settlements and literally forcing people out of their homes. I'm not trying to get banned for "excusing anti semitism" or however negative way my post can be interpreted, but generally speaking Israel has problems and pointing that out shouldn't lead to people calling you an anti semite. It's possible to want Israel to exist and not be an exclusionary, expansive ethnostate.
Yeah, I ain't gonna waste time or fury at someone who is either trolling or dishonest AF. Europe has issues, a lot of them. And how the separate countries deal with stuff like racism for example varies from depressing to infuriating, but you're just looking to hate on a couple of hundred million people.
Though as a side note, yeah Europe should not have held Eurovision in Israel, that was shameful. And we should use the EU to push for peace there.
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First time hearing about BDS group so i dont know what they do but ok, if is to piss off people like you i say yes, they are
Why would anyone be against this? This is exactly what civil disobedience looks like. Gandhi would approve.
I love how you fake ignorance because you can't own up to what you were trying to do.
Germany is run by people who actually remember what happened the last time they tried Jewish boycotts.
I really hate the actions of the right wing Israeli government, but I have never been comfortable with BDS as a form of protest. I grew up in a part of Sydney with a high Jewish population, and I don't think it's my business to ask them for their views on political Zionism before I purchase things from them.
I feel like I am in crazy town for even failing to see the logic.
Fuck Israel. Amazing how they have the western world twirling around their fingers just because people are scared of being called anti-Semitic.
And they're gonna get away with their genocide because no one gives a fuck about Palestinians. Disgraceful. Anyone who refuses to speak out about that terrorist state is a coward with no integrity. Such a shame all politicians are like that.
And they're gonna get away with their genocide because no one gives a fuck about Palestinians. Disgraceful. Anyone who refuses to speak out about that terrorist state is a coward with no integrity. Such a shame all politicians are like that.
Of course because you have the crystal ball
Fell free to report me if you think you're right
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So where was that "wrong antisemetic organization"
My crystal ball is a little wonky so I might need your help.
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What do you mean? Did not the West give Jews their own homeland because of the holocaust? And did they not do it by taking away colonized land from the Palestinians without asking the Palestinians and the people living there if that was okay by them? If there was any kind of actual justice, the Jewish people should have been given their own country/state in Germany/Europe. But no, the white colonialists kicked the brown people out of their homes to make way for a new Jewish state. Palestinians paid for the crimes committed by the Germans and now we have the Germans continuing to support their ethnic cleansing by the Israeli government.
Are you capable of distinguishing Israel and Jewish people?