No one will care that he lost the Texas race once he wins the Democratic primary.
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US Midterm Elections 2018 |OT| Babs is Surging
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Most people in the country have already heard of him - many of the things he did went viral in this cycle and he got solid national coverage. The guy started a movement and a movement is what Dems need.
Beto/Harris or Harris/Beto is an absolute winner. I also like that any ticket with Beto on it will make Trump throw lots of money at TX.
Yeah I'm hoping for one of those tickets for 2020 right now, I haven't seen anyone else that I think would do better (So far).
If he had won, he'd almost certainly not be running in 2020, because he promised to serve a full term in the Senate (unlike say, Ted Cruz).
Beto has been a congressman for years.
Besides, who gives a shit about experience anymore? Did we learn nothing from 2016?
Besides, who gives a shit about experience anymore? Did we learn nothing from 2016?
Who won us this election?
What subgroup in that group is among the most loyal Democratic voters?
Experience is good. I'd like the president of the most important country in the world (militarily and sort of economically speaking) to know what they're doing.
That said, Beto has tons of experience, as you said. Anyone seriously disqualifying him because he "only" spent 6 years as a US representative has unrealistic expectations of what "experience" is.
I get that he's in a catch 22 situations, but that doesn't make his losses victories in the eyes of voters
BS. Every candidate says this and it is a common understanding that it is well... BS.
Obama started a movement in 2008 and won in a landslide.
Trump, by posturing as a populist and successfully passing off as anti-establishment only because his opponent was THE most emblematic figure of the establishment, also started a movement, and won.
Beto is the only Dem I can think of who started a massive movement recently and got overwhelming support from everyone. He got dozens of Dems elected in TX. Not himself, but that's because Texas is a red state and the odds weren't favoring him from the get go. He would wipe the floor with Trump because he actually exudes energy and intelligence, two things Trump only pretends to have, and is a rockstar candidate with a huge following.
Trump, by posturing as a populist and successfully passing off as anti-establishment only because his opponent was THE most emblematic figure of the establishment, also started a movement, and won.
Beto is the only Dem I can think of who started a massive movement recently and got overwhelming support from everyone. He got dozens of Dems elected in TX. Not himself, but that's because Texas is a red state and the odds weren't favoring him from the get go. He would wipe the floor with Trump because he actually exudes energy and intelligence, two things Trump only pretends to have, and is a rockstar candidate with a huge following.
That the Democratic base wants women elected, as we saw in elections this year. That this moment in history calls for a woman to be our nominee.
He probably would've kept the promise because we'd definitely lose the seat if he vacated it.
That poster was joking; that's not why the top-two system was put in place. California (and Washington) implemented it in an attempt to discourage political extremism on both sides - so stopping the very small percentage of the electorate that vote in primaries from pretty much picking the election winner in heavily left-leaning or right-leaning districts by making it more likely that a moderate alternative will also make it through to the general election.
I'm not sure it's made a huge difference though.
This is fertile ground for an 80's political comedy starring Andrew McCarthy.
There were Beto for Senate signs in Pennsylvania. I challenge anyone to name the last time a Senate candidate inspired people across the country like that.
There were people in different parts of the country asking where Beto is on the ballot. The hype he has is crazy.
I'm not claiming experience is bad. I'm claiming it's irrelevant to electability, especially when compared to his opponent. I'd take Beto over Trump if he'd been a cashier at McDonalds the past five years.
Anyway, this is a moot point as Beto has plenty of experience.
Not sure there is a woman rumored to run that can energize the base like Beto. Maybe there will be one that comes out of nowhere that isn't a household name at the moment, but for now none excite like Beto.
I think Beto will not make the same mistake that Hillary did in picking a safe (and boring) VP pick. And I like Tim Kaine.
I really don't think that winning or loosing really matters and you have to look no further than to Trump as an example of that. Dude tried his hand in politics lots, and lost every time before his most recent attempt.
What matters nowadays is charisma and being able to speak to the nations mind. At least that's what I've seen with the last three presidential campaigns (and for that matter a similar argument could be made for Bush Jr., Clinton, Reagan, etc.)
True. Makes me wonder if Obama made a similar statement, lol
Regardless if he had won, he would've been far more valuable in Texas than running for president, because his seat would almost assuredly be taken by a Republican.
Updates for florida:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/florida-miami-dade-election-uncounted-ballots/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/florida-recount-palm-beach-county/index.html
Recounts will take too long and likely will lead to Scott and DeSantis being certified victors.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/florida-miami-dade-election-uncounted-ballots/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/florida-recount-palm-beach-county/index.html
Recounts will take too long and likely will lead to Scott and DeSantis being certified victors.
The Dems need people who understand how a well run campaign that got a progressive candidate 48% of the vote in Texas can translate into a successful campaign nationwide. Luckily these people exist and are working to get Beto to run as we speak.
Jesus fuck Florida, you need to learn how to run a damn election.
Glad I was too young in 2000 to be getting flashbacks right now, lol
Yea and Bernie can't seem to get out of his own way with PoC, contrast that to betos statement on NFL protests or the speech he gave about police brutality to a church full of black people.
Let's be real
They need both. Any Presidential candidate needs to have a winning GOTV operation and true progressive Bona fides. We can't take anything less than a sure bet on a real changemaker.
I agree, and that's Beto. I don't think you're being fair to what his campaign accomplished in Texas and how that translates going forward.
i don't think she has a chance. i think you'll see the younger people winning. harris, beto, booker, and gillibrand have a better shot than biden, sanders, or warren.
Yea that Loser Lincoln did nothing after losing his senate race.
I think the problem you're making is to assume that Obama is a winner vs. Beto being a loser simply on which one hit 50% or not. But elections outcomes can't be measured equally in Illinois and Texas.
I'm positive Beto changed the vote in Texas just as Obama did in Illinois when he ran. And I'm pretty sure that (and the GOTV campaign with it) can be scaled up to a national level.
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Seriously I don't understand how others don't get it. What Beto did in Texas is a much bigger win than some idealist progressive winning by 25% in a deep blue state.
Also unless Beto has some fucking weird skeletons in his closet, Republicans have a REALLY hard time fighting against him. He is too likeable and clean and not that radical. What are they gonna say? "He has no experience!" Well then you instantly counter trump had less experience when he ran.
Florida has been governed by GOP for some time and still haven't fixed their election problems for obvious reasons.
He's already known nationally.
Just look at the celebrities endorsing him, the headlines he's generated. Even my wife's my who lives in upstate New York told my wife she hopes he runs.
He has a DUI which would be damning but Trump has multiple hookers that he's paid off so we good.
Stay and fight and it's bound to happen.
Here in GA, my district (around Roswell GA), which is mainly more on the white side, just elected a black democrat women to the House for the 1st time since 1976 and defeated the horrible Karren Handle. The Gov race is likely lost, but the fact we got SO FUCKING close despite all the shenanigans by the State Rep who oversaw the election and also was the Republican Candidate shows how far GA has come. I'd easily say GA is more of a purple state these days.
If Beto runs then I hope that his VP pick is a woman, Kamala isnt the worst option, maybe Warren could too.
Trump runs on fear, while Beto runs on hope. Guess we'll see which one wins if Trump goes against Beto.
Not gonna lie, I do care. And I was happy to learn this about him when I looked him up. I'm warming to him for 2020 seriously. Some political experience matters a lot to me. And I really love his charisma. I would MUCH prefer him to others like Avenatti. Its getting harder and harder to deny how extremely well he did in the race. I'm not big on taking someone who lost recently and propping them for a WH run, but wow this guy is impressive. I at least want him in the running. Let him take his shot at making it to the general.
Hope and change will always win over fear and status quo - that's the lesson 2008 cemented.
Trump lost the advantage of being an outsider. He'll be in a weaker spot than he was in 2016.
Also, did you see the sea of red we're dealing with in GA?
The fact that we got so close with so much red is a good thing. We need to keep it up, increase voter turnout, and turn GA blue.
I know right, I was just a kid out in Broward County at the time.