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US PoliEra 2017 |OT| At least Rand Paul had a lawn to cushion the blow
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Only if the Dems retake the Ohio governorship in 2020 or seem like they are capable of doing so. Otherwise you just lose a Senate seat. VP candidates from the Senate should only be from places where we can be damned certain they'll be replaced by a Democrat or D-caucusing independent.
I just did the math and setting the ratio for the House at 750,000 to 1 would give us 440 reps under the current system. Little change except more representation to places on the bubble of getting their next rep, like Texas, Florida, or Georgia. So you'd get what we have now.
But ideally it would be set to whoever has the lowest population is the standard for getting 1 rep until such a time as the least populous state gets 750,000 residents, which is Wyoming with 585,000 people. If we rounded to 600,000 that would be 550 in the House, a more marked change.
Why in the world did they think it was a good idea to take this photo? And why does Mnuchin always have that stupid looking 5'oclock shadow?
His 5 o'clock shadow is fine. His grin is stupid though.
Yassss Queen
Jack Lew visited the mint as well and the took pictures. but he just went around in circles.
At this point the only viable option is to vote Justice Democrat until we unseat all these corporate politicians. Democratic senators voting no on things that would help Americans because they get cooperate money is dumb and stupid. ie allowing American's to import cheaper medicine from Canada. I also wish Hillary would just fade away into obscurity because people are tired of hearing about her and her dumb campaign . She lost getting salty over it won't help us win 2020 or help us get a Democratic candidate that isn't bought off. Why would anyone want someone as president that voted for the ndda,the iraq war and supported the tpp among other things..
Depends on if he wins reelection next year. I actually think he might lose it.
Brown shouldn't be VP anyway.
He should be president.
I think the Wyoming rule works best - the population of the smallest at-large seat should be the benchmark.
What brought on this non sequitur ?
You do realise that most functioning democracies are decided on popular vote? What kind of insular thinking leads one to not conclude that the EC is nothing but an anachronism of a bygone era?
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Nina turner and bernie sanders for every office! Yea let's do this, and I'll check back with you when democrats lose bigly.
All this talk about reps as if the 2020 Census isn't going to be completely and utterly fucked.
I'm just annoyed with people ignoring things wrong with the democratic party because they are against republicans. There is no legit reason to vote no on letting Ameericans get cheaper meds other than you getting money from bigpharama
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...oker-chooses-wall_us_5879119ee4b077a19d180d45
I assume people don't know what Justice Democrats are.
People don't know or care about the justice democrats, because a lot of them are fools, and aren't likely to get anywhere.
Either way something needs to change because more of the same ain't cutting it which is one of the reasons we have Trump in office.
*shrug*
Sure. But electing idiots doesn't change things for the better.
How are they idiots? Stuff like that needs an explanation. Some justice dems are already in congress. One of them got Yemen declared an unconstitutional war which it was. I just want change because people who look like me have a chance of being shot by police just for getting out id even when asked.
Wasn't Justice Democrats founded by the Young Turks?
I want to read a fan flc of where we would be as a country had he won the primary in '92 instead of Clinton.
For one, they call for knee-jerk policies that gives them good tummyfeels but doesn't solve the actual problem at large. And they demonstrated that they have the unique combination of incompetence and stubbornness that makes then carry negative value to their constituents once they're in power. (see Bob Marshall)
They're known as the Green Tea Party for a reason.
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#StillWithHer
I'm not sure what to think of black face used in private. Sure it's racist. And sure there shouldn't be photos of a deputy sheriff in public with it on. But the tweet says he should be fired? I don't know about that. Reprimanded? Sure. Fired? I don't know if this rises to that level and would likely depend on other factors not public.
You trust this guy to be in charge of law enforcement policy when it comes to black people?
Racists shouldn't have a place in law enforcement. How can you expect someone like that to be fair when it comes to arrests?
Eh, I think this kind of judgement reveals the limitations of historical analysis from that sort of perspective. Pretty much every revolutionary leader, liberal or leftist, was a bourgeois compromiser before they became founding fathers. Being a successful revolutionary requires a power base.
Appealing to founder arguments are usually empty appeals to people who have no idea what the founders intended. From a legal background, founder's intent does appeal to me. But founder's intent is just one piece of the puzzle typically and it's not always clear what the founder's intended since they weren't a group of people who agreed on every little aspect about everything to begin with. There was a ton of compromise. And if you need to see the lack of agreement you need go no further than marbury vs madison where essentially 2 founding fathers disagreed over constitutional legal issues of massive importance.
The decision, if it were mine, would be weighed towards being fired but it's not like I know the person, his history of job performance, and other factors that may not be available to public domain.
Lol, this looks like a film still from an imaginary Brosnan-era Bond movie — one in which John Oliver's evil cousin was playing the villain.
It makes perfect sense if you hate effete coastal liberal elites
I'd care more about smaller states if most of them did not suck, electoral college was designed to protect slavery, dump it.
Yeah it sure does. That or like the evil couple out of a Tommy Boy movie. Sick but true burn by Schumer.
I was a bit too brief. My point is that appealing to the Founders is no different a fallacy than appealing to authority in general. Saying "this is how the Founders intended it to work" doesn't mean anything. They intended for a lot of bad and good things, and you have to put in more effort to argue which one will count.
My one, very conservative local newspaper (our county vote last year was like 70% Trump/24% Clinton/6% other) has just recently started openly shitting on Trump beyond the absolute minimum you could expect. There is a front page headline today "Trump immediately condemns Franken, refuses to acknowledge Moore" etc. National polls are one thing, but I'm actually feeling the tide shifting in person on this level for the first time.
I'm deep in Trump country, so I'm not seeing the harsh headlines for him. I'm just not seeing anything at all. People here know he's a turd, and they'd rather just not talk about it.
I think it's a bit more complex than that. I think it's commonly agreed upon that the EC + 3/5ths together were made up to allow for more voting power in states that had non-voting slaves. But it wasn't abandoned either, even after slavery. It could have been changed with the 13th/14th amendment I'd imagine? Not really sure of the history there, if it was even considered. Perhaps the reason 3/5ths was repealed but the electoral college was not is because people still found some value in the electoral college.
I'm not against the EC being abolished. It's been proven rather useless rubber stamp seeing as someone like Trump was elected. And yes, while it is rooted in slavery, doesn't necessarily mean it is a reason to dump it now.
The Alabama Trump voters I'm indirectly in contact with are fairly disappointed. "I mean don't get me wrong, he's better than Hillary" etc. But I don't think they'll turn out for Moore, especially if they're distracted by Alabama football. And if this legislative inaction keeps up — or god forbid, a recession hits — I don't think they'll turn out for Trump in 2020.
Yup, total agreement here.
I mean, once the electoral college has been established there are lots of reasons it's hard to get rid of it, starting with the obvious: three-quarters of the States would need to ratify the amendment, and none of the smaller states would be likely to do it. So I wouldn't recommend arguing from Chesterton's fence here. Self-interest is sufficient to explain why the EC persists.
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