US PoliERA 2018 |OT13| And now the fun starts

BlastProcessing · Dec 17, 2018

lenovox1 said:
Yeah...

Unfortunately, Facebook and Twitter have amplified Fox News (and conservative media's) reach beyond what one can see in the ratings.

And it's not Facebook and Twitter's fault. Conservatives through the radio and through email chains have been exploiting their audience for decades and decades.

It is absolutely Facebook and Twitter's fault.

They completely reworked how society communicates with itself with no regard for the consequences other than considerations for their business model. We are still in the part of the Algorithmic Revolution that is analogous to the part of the Industrial Revolution where all factories just dumped toxic waste into the air and water with no regard for anything but efficiency and profit.

What we are seeing right now works on an entirely different scale than email chains.

VectorPrime · Dec 17, 2018

viskod said:
Your deductible depends on the plan you get, but we already know the idiot has no idea how insurance actually works anyway.

He thought that the Gerber life Insurance for 25 cents a day was health insurance.

BlastProcessing · Dec 17, 2018

NihonTiger · Dec 17, 2018

BlastProcessing said:

Just a couple dudes hanging out with their constituents.

JustinP · Dec 17, 2018

viskod said:
Your deductible depends on the plan you get, but we already know the idiot has no idea how insurance actually works anyway.

And his healthcare proposals all allowed higher deductibles. Same grift republicans have been doing for years.

shadow_shogun · Dec 17, 2018

@Mediaite
Napolitano Corrects Fox Business Host Maria Bartiromo: FBI Agents Did Not Entrap Mike Flynn http://mediaite.com/a/tzmdn
8:48 AM - Dec 17, 2018

Autodidact · Dec 17, 2018

BlastProcessing said:

Hanging out with their BrAus.

KtotheRoc · Dec 17, 2018

Teggy said:
Quite the poll results here...those 31 percent in the cult...

The Republican Party needs to fall into the dustbin of history.

Box of Kittens · Dec 17, 2018

Sho_Nuff82 said:
Does North Korea ever get tired of sabre rattling?

https://t.co/5mANV0oJCN

Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing lasting peace to the Korean Peninsula.

EvilChameleon · Dec 17, 2018

Well now I just want to watch Goldfinger.

cameron · Dec 17, 2018

Dave Weigel @daveweigel

House GOP simultaneously arguing 1) that Dems must not waste time investigating Trump, and 2) that the probes of Clinton's email server and foundation must continue until the Sun explodes. https://twitter.com/chadpergram/status/1074634819982757889?s=21 …

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram

Fmr FBI Director James Comey appears again today behind closed doors for a 2nd interview with the Hse Oversight/Judiciary Cmtes

Manu Raju @mkraju

Mark Meadows, entering James Comey's second day of testimony, said there were "inconsistencies" in Comey's testimony, telling reporters that Comey needs to explain when he learned about the DNC and Clinton camp payments to Fusion GPS. "At what point did he become aware of that?"

shadow_shogun · Dec 17, 2018

@NatashaBertrand
Michael Flynn's business partner Bijan Kian has been charged with illegally lobbying for Turkey https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/michael-flynns-business-partner-charged-with-illegally-lobbying-for-turkey/2018/12/17/46fb3762-020a-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html …
10:21 AM - Dec 17, 2018

cameron · Dec 17, 2018

Edit: posted above.

Natasha Bertrand @NatashaBertrand

Bijan Kian, who was just charged w/acting as an unregistered foreign agent, hired a journalist to help produce a pro-Turkey documentary in 2016—and then swore him to secrecy: "We don't want anyone to know the Flynn Intel Group has anything to do with this" https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-turkey-gulen-lobbying-2017-5 …

shadow_shogun · Dec 17, 2018

@mkraju
Asked Mark Meadows about Trump calling Cohen a "rat," and he said: "I've learned a long time ago to concentrate on what I say than what other people say. ... There are more than enough quotes to critique and at this point I'm going to be critiquing mine more than anything else."
10:31 AM - Dec 17, 2018

shadow_shogun · Dec 17, 2018

@thehill
NAACP gives donation back to Facebook over report on Russia using social media to suppress black turnout in 2016 http://hill.cm/EyrfYWw
10:37 AM - Dec 17, 2018

Box of Kittens · Dec 17, 2018

BlastProcessing said:
It is absolutely Facebook and Twitter's fault.

They completely reworked how society communicates with itself with no regard for the consequences other than considerations for their business model. We are still in the part of the Algorithmic Revolution that is analogous to the part of the Industrial Revolution where all factories just dumped toxic waste into the air and water with no regard for anything but efficiency and profit.

What we are seeing right now works on an entirely different scale than email chains.

At some point people need to stop shrugging their shoulders and saying "the algorithm did it." I remember a story coming out about Uber using surge pricing during crises and a lot of the reaction was along the lines that the critics just didn't understand how the algorithms work (along with the usual "free market" blather), as though the algorithms absolve their creators of all responsibility.

AnotherNils · Dec 17, 2018

That's the Gulen stuff I was waiting for.

thefit · Dec 17, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

Fucking piece of shit.

Blader · Dec 17, 2018

Stinkles said:
Fuck the Weekly Standard for carpet bombing conservative intellectualism to soften the ground for tea party tanks and fuck everyone there with more than a high school education for pretending it was OK.

This is such a great sentence.

shadow_shogun said:

Mark Meadows believes his most important job is to critique his own quotes

JustinP · Dec 17, 2018

Wilsongt · Dec 17, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

Just a business partner. Not Flynn. Flynn is innocent and a victim of a witch hunt.

/therightsphere

ned_ballad · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

Is a "pro-Israel oath" even Constitutional?

thefit · Dec 17, 2018

ned_ballad said:
Is a "pro-Isarael oath" even Constitutional?

No. We don't even have to stand or say the pledge of allegiance in this country let alone oaths to a foreign country.

Percival Sparkletrout · Dec 17, 2018

The district I currently work for has a mandatory loyalty oath, but I read through it, it sure as hell wasn't a pro-Israel one.

RastaMentality · Dec 17, 2018

shiba5 · Dec 17, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

He says lots of words to end up saying nothing.

JustinP · Dec 17, 2018

Linkura · Dec 17, 2018

RastaMentality said:

He's running

For something anyway.

platypotamus · Dec 17, 2018

Can't understand what goes through the head of a small town indiana mayor who decides they should run for president

Deleted member 33887 · Dec 17, 2018

Apparently the US military provided Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates with airplane refueling while they bombed Yemen into oblivion, then didn't even charge them the proper amount of money to do so due to accounting errors.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/pentagon-saudi-aerial-refueling-costs/index.html

Can't even collect blood money properly.

Box of Kittens · Dec 17, 2018

RastaMentality said:

I'm a big fan of Mayor Pete, but I hope he doesn't try to run for president. It's too big of a leap from Mayor of South Bend.

Drakeon · Dec 17, 2018

RastaMentality said:

I love Pete, but I don't know that he's got a shot at 2020.

Suiko · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

These are at least better than the "Guy in bar in rural Wisconsin still supports Trump" stories.

Blader · Dec 17, 2018

I hope Buttigeg is making a run for governor in 2020 and not president.

zer0das said:
Apparently the US military provided Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates with airplane refueling while they bombed Yemen into oblivion, then didn't even charge them the proper amount of money to do so due to accounting errors.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/pentagon-saudi-aerial-refueling-costs/index.html

Can't even collect blood money properly.

Pentagon accounting errors are people skimming off the top. DOD has somewhere between hundreds of billions and single-digit trillions completely unaccounted for because of bookkeeping shit. Nobody believes that stuff's missing because of absent-minded accountants.

thefro · Dec 17, 2018

Drakeon said:
I love Pete, but I don't know that he's got a shot at 2020.

He definitely doesn't have a shot if Beto runs. His best bet is probably to carpetbag into another seat because winning Indiana Governor is going to be a tall, tall order in 2020 since the current governor of Indiana, Eric Holcomb is a "moderate" in the mold of Mitch Daniels and not batshit crazy.

Edit: If I were him, I might run to raise my profile to get a cabinet position. Then he could run for Virginia/Maryland governor or something (or Indiana goes bluer by then).

Sho_Nuff82 · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

This needs to go to the Supreme Court. You cannot possibly justify making a specific boycott ban tied to employment.

Midnight Jon · Dec 17, 2018

Linkura said:
He's running

For something anyway.

possibly governor if he ain't about to carpetbag

Hopfrog · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

I am honestly exhausted by these pieces at this point. I do not want to hear any more from people who listened to this man rant about a wall, concluded that he was just lying to them, and then voted for him anyway. All these people want is absolution for being the biggest morons in history for falling for the most transparent con ever in American politics. No, they don't deserve it.

Box of Kittens · Dec 17, 2018

platypotamus said:
Can't understand what goes through the head of a small town indiana mayor who decides they should run for president

I wouldn't call South Bend a small town; it has a population of over 100K. That having been said, yes, it's not a position that really qualifies one for president. Really I wouldn't consider mayor a position that prepares one for the presidency unless it's of one of the largest cities in the US.

He's widely known as a rising star in the party, so I can see the ambition but yeah, it's too soon. He needs to work his way up. It's admittedly difficult given where he is, but as it is he's not really going to be a viable presidential candidate.

shadow_shogun · Dec 17, 2018

ABC
NEW: There are signs the Trump brand may be returning to the Dominican Republic—and that has critics sounding alarms about the potential conflicts of interest for Pres. Trump. https://abcn.ws/2EnUIdo

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11:01 AM - Dec 17, 2018

Owzers · Dec 17, 2018

Suiko said:
These are at least better than the "Guy in bar in rural Wisconsin still supports Trump" stories.

"People have asked me, "Didn't you listen to Trump when he said that he would build a wall?" I didn't take the idea seriously during the campaign. I knew he couldn't get Mexico to pay it — that'd be like asking Hurricane Harvey to foot the bill for rebuilding Houston — and thought it was just talk: another candidate making big promises he couldn't keep. I never thought it would actually happen."

I thought the person promising to do something i didn't want wasn't serious.

'3y Kingdom · Dec 17, 2018

platypotamus said:
Can't understand what goes through the head of a small town indiana mayor who decides they should run for president

There are no qualifications anymore. Presidential elections are basically Smash Ultimate now: "Everyone is Here!"

Ac30 · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

How is this legal? That's barmy. Making sign a pro-American oath shouldn't even be required, it's absurd.

Box of Kittens · Dec 17, 2018

Blader said:
I hope Buttigeg is making a run for governor in 2020 and not president.

Governor would make a lot more sense than president, although unfortunately Holcomb isn't looking vulnerable right now. A lot can change in two years, of course.

Ac30 · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

He fucking ran on it you braindead no good fucking moron

By backing the wall, my party has abandoned the conservative principles I treasure: less government, less spending, and respect for the law and private property.

Urrgghhhhh

RastaMentality said:

At least do something useful and run for a Senate seat guy

No Depth · Dec 17, 2018

Suiko said:
These are at least better than the "Guy in bar in rural Wisconsin still supports Trump" stories.

Just finished the article myself and there are some choice quotes that smack of the self-same willfully naive impulses that "justified" the author's 2016 vote, but at least this one started to recognize the fallacy of being willfully naive for sure.

Suiko · Dec 17, 2018

Owzers said:
"People have asked me, "Didn't you listen to Trump when he said that he would build a wall?" I didn't take the idea seriously during the campaign. I knew he couldn't get Mexico to pay it — that'd be like asking Hurricane Harvey to foot the bill for rebuilding Houston — and thought it was just talk: another candidate making big promises he couldn't keep. I never thought it would actually happen."

I thought the person promising to do something i didn't want wasn't serious.

I'm not defending the person, just the type of article not being as bad as some of the shit I've seen.

Wilsongt · Dec 17, 2018

JustinP said:

I heard about this story, and ranted about it in here.

These chucklefucks knew what they were getting.

Blader · Dec 17, 2018

Owzers said:
"People have asked me, "Didn't you listen to Trump when he said that he would build a wall?" I didn't take the idea seriously during the campaign. I knew he couldn't get Mexico to pay it — that'd be like asking Hurricane Harvey to foot the bill for rebuilding Houston — and thought it was just talk: another candidate making big promises he couldn't keep. I never thought it would actually happen."

I thought the person promising to do something i didn't want wasn't serious.

This is great. This man voted for a president that he believed was consistently lying for years about his central campaign pledge.

ned_ballad · Dec 17, 2018

For every 1 butterfly man there's a 100 trailers being plowed right over while those in them will be first in line to vote for Trump again, donning their red hats.

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