US PoliERA 2018 |OT6| An Unmitigated Disaster
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This. We don’t need a bizarro trump.
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Although if he could successfully primary him I’d take it lol
I feel like Cohen removing Trump from his twitter profile would be seen as disloyal by Trump and is a bad move as far as pardon fishing goes.
Happy 4th guys. I know we all love America, even though it sucks. But we all love that aspirational America, the one where it truly is self evident that all people are created equal, and have the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So let’s all keep fighting for it!
Happy 4th guys. I know we all love America, even though it sucks. But we all love that aspirational America, the one where it truly is self evident that all people are created equal, and have the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So let’s all keep fighting for it!
I love this song.
We’ll put the traitors all to rout, i’d bet my boots we’ll whip them out!
Like, who could've imagined that the loud entertainment lawyer would be in it for the self-aggrandizement?
Honestly I'd kind of love to see someone try now, just to see how this dynamic would play out.
"The fake news media ignoring all the great things we've done to fight against climate change, poverty, rising healthcare+tuition costs & for immigrant rights. Sad!"
But yes, a lot of the people sucking up to the Trump administration (who he often directly insults anyway) would suddenly turn their whole perspective around if it was a Democrat.
And you'd see fact checks longer than a Harry Potter book. Believe me, they'll suddenly rediscover their spines when we have a Democratic president.
Democrats are held to higher standards...
because the straight white men who run the media are contemptuous of the women and minorities who constitute the Democrats' base.
Clearly the antifa member who smashed the window of that heroic GOP member's office broke in first so they could smash the window from the inside.
What, you guys thought Trump could go for years tearing everything to shreds and making everyone ridiculously angry and people are now gonna think rationally about a new calm and collected president. Already told you folks, no coming back from this crazy. Just like how Bernie fucked with the 2016 voters, 2020 gonna be a shitshow.
I would take avenatti in a heartbeat over trump. I would take a wacky waving inflatable arm guy over trump.
But more importantly, using Avenatti as a foil to trump, he's a opportunistic, savage, no holds barred asshole who is a race driver at the weekends.
He is younger smarter and virile than trump which will make him go insane.
I want Avenatti in there just to fuck with trump, draw all the media fire, make chucklefuck look like a chucklefuck, insult him, his record, point out all his stains make the king bleed and then at the last minute Kamala Harris swoops in with the win.
It's a more viable tactic than " we must all be civil" as the Nazis make their Tiki torch march to the white house.
But more importantly, using Avenatti as a foil to trump, he's a opportunistic, savage, no holds barred asshole who is a race driver at the weekends.
He is younger smarter and virile than trump which will make him go insane.
I want Avenatti in there just to fuck with trump, draw all the media fire, make chucklefuck look like a chucklefuck, insult him, his record, point out all his stains make the king bleed and then at the last minute Kamala Harris swoops in with the win.
It's a more viable tactic than " we must all be civil" as the Nazis make their Tiki torch march to the white house.
cause GoP have a history of this shit.
breaking there shit, spray painting it, then saying it was the DEMS!!!
a week or two later a staffer is arrested for a false police report
No it doesn't. But he sure wants people to "wonder" and vaguely think about conspiracy theories.
Avenatti is the muscle.
There is a reason the muscle isn't the boss.
I like that is been pointed out he wouldn't pull that lets come together and let the past be the past shit
Which is why it's important that he's saying that. We need to move the overton window on that well before the 2020 primaries start, that we want someone who will take these assholes to the mat and make them feel bad about who they are and what they do whenever they attack. They can't be the anti-Trump because we have to be better than that, but someone who knows that when they come at you, you kick 'em in the sack and then kick 'em a few more times when they're down before the ref can notice.
While I'm definitely not saying that this *isn't* more GOP fuckery like last time, if the brick or whatever hit at around the circle point it's perfectly plausible the rest of the window could've ended up falling out rather than in.
If anything that timing helps him by making us briefly forget that appears to be terrified of the Russia probe for personal reasons. The GOP is officially the party of pederasts anyway. It's called the Hastert Rule.
Yep. Otherwise you'd never really notice car window break ins.
I'd argue that Trump has made people actually want an established politician who knows what they're doing even more so than before.
Yep. That’s partly why Bush’s approval has risen so much over the past year. Because he at least presented a guise of normalcy and respectability.
Thats not how it will work out. It will be a battle between the angry left thats wants someone to go for the throat when they hget power and the centrists who are like' lets come together'. Shitshow.
Fucking hell that 'Extremely Proud to be an American' thread is a mess.
I used the report feature, but it will probably be ignored... again.
Typically, this forum frowns upon generalizing a group of people.
That thread is FULL of it, but maybe it's ok if it's against the United States.
It would be like me going into a thread about Germany and calling them all Nazis.
I used the report feature, but it will probably be ignored... again.
Typically, this forum frowns upon generalizing a group of people.
That thread is FULL of it, but maybe it's ok if it's against the United States.
It would be like me going into a thread about Germany and calling them all Nazis.
I don’t think so. Experience is too much of a liability. People don’t want politicians who had to vote a certain way to get things done or make compromises. They want the grandstanding senator who stood on the senate floor making a passionate speech, never voted for a poison pill etc etc etc.. people don’t value difficult political achievements enough for it to outweigh the negatives.
But really you don’t need to be a senator to do that. I could totally see a young person nobody knows or really is talking about without much of a record undercutting some of the older politicians currently trying to retrofit themselves into something else for 2020. Like really what’s the difference at this point. Someone likeable who hasn’t explicitly done shitty things has the best shot. Like AOC getting somewhere in 2020 if she was old enough.
The best experience actually does at this point I think is help swing endorsements. Long time party loyalty and connections can go a long way. But when there is no consensus, endorsements influence is mitigated when everyone is endorsing someone else; ie GOP 2016 and like Dems in 2020
Isn't that a good deal of the eternal struggle?
Dealing with appealing to those who understand politics, and those who don't?
The GOP really fucked things up by refusing to compromise on 99% of stuff.
Good point. If it wasn’t swept out there afterward that is highly suspicious. I wonder if this could be another backwards B situation.
Poodlestrike said it could have ended up that way. I have no "glass breaking" experience to draw from.
Yeah, I feel like with this stuff, it's better to wait. Same with the burned down black church in Mississippi that said "VOTE TRUMP" on the side that turned out to be nothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/us/mississippi-church-fire.html
Some tempered glass has the tendency to explode backwards of the angle of impact apparently (from other comments about this incident, not my knowledge). The glass deforms when struck, and then shatters when it tries to snap back to its original shape, so the shattering pushes outward.
I have no idea why Huelen is allowed to post on here still.
It is so obvious she only went into that thread to shit it up.
Anyone who questions the timing of something as an immediate reaction to an accusation is generally guilty as fuck. Though to his credit he at least denied the actual accusations themselves instead of ignoring them.
It probably makes him wonder because he's been in so many republican strategy meetings where they discuss bogus investigations against Clinton and the FBI etc.
They just jelly cuz they drink our soda, wear our clothes, watch our entertainment, and are communicating on a platform we created. Along with like a million other things invented in our country. Nobody likes a hegemon, just comes with the territory.
Not to mention Europeans may espouse their greater liberalism but we all see clearly what happened when they received an influx of brown people with a different religious background.
Oh my favorite was the defense of 4chan in a different thread.
Like Pretty much every country ever, the US has a shitty past. Fuck, the 1800s were a damn travesty. The early 1900s were not much better. What I take issue is, the either outright statement or insinuation that everybody does not have an issue with what the country did or is doing.
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Yeah they have a lot to blame, because really how much has congress even accomplished since the 94’ wave?
but at the same time people’s expectations are insane. They are looking for things that will be impossible to do or nobody has ever done before Look at what people are expecting. Passing single payer, abolishing ICE and packing the supreme fucking court. There’s nobody in politics with a record that says that they’ll do these things. Only votes that says they’d do the opposite. We’re settinng our selves up for crazy celebrity or totally inexperienced person who is going to have no idea what they are doing I think.
And governors are even worse off. Guys with actual executive experience like Hickenlooper have no shot. “I legalized weed, grew the economy and let a single payer referendum that was shot down by a hilarious margin” isn’t going to be good enough really either
After the GOP removed the 60 vote requirement for Supreme Court nominees, the Dems really do need to ditch the filibuster.
But, even at 50 votes many of the things you listed are going to be tough sells by the very nature of the setup of the Senate.
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