US PoliERA 2018 |OT6| An Unmitigated Disaster

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Tranqueris

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Linkura

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Wiki says Kay was part of Giuliani's old law firm before being appointed. Little bastard keeps popping up.
 

Box of Kittens

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Well earlier this week Rauner (IL gov) refused to tell people to vote for Lipinski (D) over the Nazi (R). A day or two later Rauner actually had to goose-step that back a bit, though.
Even by Republican standards, Rauner is an incredible coward. He's been doing the whole "hide behind a potted plant whenever asked about Trump" thing because he desperately needs to win back anti-Trump suburban voters who backed him four years ago while also getting into the good graces of the base, but the fact that he stumbled through what should have been a very simple question about an Illinois Nazi is extra terrible.
 

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Sho_Nuff82

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Bechard's lawyer about to be like Stephen Chow in Kung Fu Hustle:



Is he really going to let Avenatti question her under oath?
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Everyone saw the sanction lift talk coming. The only question was whether Putin would offer up Crimea in the "bargain".

But no, the world isn't that fair, we'll give up everything and get nothing and have a bunch of talking heads reassuring the public that it's all for the greater good to let American businesses make deals with mafia thugs who intimidate and murder their opposition.
 

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Everyone saw the sanction lift talk coming. The only question was whether Putin would offer up Crimea in the "bargain".

But no, the world isn't that fair, we'll give up everything and get nothing and have a bunch of talking heads reassuring the public that it's all for the greater good to let American businesses make deals with mafia thugs who intimidate and murder their opposition.
Trump is compromised. Putin will get everything he wants.
 

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Luminish

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I guess to be fair, I found the same argument appealing about trying something different with Cuba, but those have been in place since 1958.

And forgive my ignorance if wrong, but isn't Russia the same or worse than Cuba in every way on human rights?
 

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Even by Republican standards, Rauner is an incredible coward. He's been doing the whole "hide behind a potted plant whenever asked about Trump" thing because he desperately needs to win back anti-Trump suburban voters who backed him four years ago while also getting into the good graces of the base, but the fact that he stumbled through what should have been a very simple question about an Illinois Nazi is extra terrible.
Rauner has no excuse for being unprepared either. There was a whole goddamned movie about Illinois Nazis.
 
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I guess to be fair, I found the same argument appealing about trying something different with Cuba, but those have been in place since 1958.

And forgive my ignorance if wrong, but isn't Russia the same or worse than Cuba in every way on human rights?
Cuba isn't supporting international white supremecy and using nerve agents in allied nations, or arming militias that take down commercial airliners.

Blessing the Crimea theft is the final abdication of American soft power. We spent a lot of blood and treasure to amass a global security hegemony. These fascist fucks tossed aside what was left of our respectability in less than 2 years. Fuck each and every one of these sloppy schmucks with a dead iguana.
 

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I guess to be fair, I found the same argument appealing about trying something different with Cuba, but those have been in place since 1958.

And forgive my ignorance if wrong, but isn't Russia the same or worse than Cuba in every way on human rights?
Lifting sanctions long after the threat of nuclear war with USSR and everyone involved in that scenario is dead, vs lifting sanctions 3 years after the annexation of Crimea and the murder of a whistleblower because the corrupt businessmen who threw money at our election would like to keep amassing their billions is kinda different, no?
 

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Blessing the Crimea theft is the final abdication of American soft power. We spent a lot of blood and treasure to amass a global security hegemony. These fascist fucks tossed aside what was left of our respectability in less than 2 years. Fuck each and every one of these sloppy schmucks with a dead iguana.
And who becomes "The World's Policeman" when America gives the okay to Russia's annexation of Crimea? I said a little while ago that that role would end up being taken over by Canada, France, Germany and China - the first 3 because they have the moral and political will, and the latter because it has the economic and political will. And what a sad state of affairs that would be - China as a "moral authority" in world politics. But at least they have the will to do it, and I suppose if you ignore what they do within their own borders, they aren't the worst.
 

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Again https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-sanctions-russias-intelligence-agency-present-putin/ He can't lift sanctions without Congress. Please, we have been over this so many times for the love of god stop saying he can just lift sanctions.

Don't get me wrong he can and will do really stupid shit, but seriously http://www.philly.com/philly/column...-john-bolton-announced-analysis-20180628.html Even Putin doesnt have his expectations that high, for the simple reason that, again HE CANT LIFT SANCTIONS BY HIMSELF

“Putin’s realistic expectation is to get nice, flowery statements about importance of relationship for world peace and agreement to renew dialogue across the board,” says foreign policy columnist and analyst Vladimir Frolov. “Trump has already accomplished a lot in Russia’s interest, and made it clear he regards Crimea as long ago and Obama’s fault. That is what Putin wants to hear.”

Putin understands that Congress and the Europeans will probably balk at lifting sanctions because Putin is unwilling to stop meddling in eastern Ukraine"

I feel like such a broken record
 

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Twitter thread on what this all means from Andy Slavitt.

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015430015897481216


BREAKING: Trump aims severe blow at ACA, says payments for insuring sicker individuals (called risk adjustment) will not be paid for prior years. This is aggressive and needless sabotage of the ACA. Impact likely chaos. I have more details. Follow here if interested. 1/

The aim of this, reported in the Journal
but not expected until next week, is to cut back about 10% of the payments insurers are owed— those for covering the sicker. Doing this now likely aims to get insurers to abandon the ACA at just the end. @StephArmour1 @annawmathews 2/

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015433453830049792


This has a lot of similarities to Trump and DOJ taking a court case to stop protections against pre-ex conditions. In this case, there is a court case in New Mexico with a simple remedy for the Administration. Details
3/ https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20180706.361204/full/ …

Even Trump’s HHS stated in the case in question that what is happening would be “disruptive for insurers, policyholders and state insurance markets.” That apparently is exactly what those in (what I assume we will learn to be) the White House wanted. 4/

 

KtotheRoc

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Part 2

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015435010797658112


Quick explanation is that HHS assumes payments need to be made in a budget neutral fashion. 1 court ruled that has been clearly enough stated as a rationale. New Mexico believes that needs to be made clearer. Not a reason to stop all the payments unless politically motivated. 5/

HHS could issue what is known as an “interim final rule” to clarify and resolve everything. But instead Trump is using this as a big bullet in hopes of finally killing the ACA. How? . . . 6/
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015436781800607744


Last year at the 11th hour, Trump ordered CSR payments stopped. He hoped this would cause insurers to exit. Instead it backfired as states helped insurers adjust their pricing. 7/

Next he introduced plans that would take all the good risks away from the market with poor benefits and signed a law driving up prices by eliminating the mandate provision. But none of it worked other than to raise prices and make him look bad. But something else happened. 8/
 

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We should also remember that Congress sneaked new Russian sanctions into the omnibus passed in March in addition to the ones passed in August of last year. Those sanctions, like the ones from the Magnitsky Act, can't be repealed without Congress.

My concern, however, is the sanctions Obama imposed in 2014 under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Since those sanctions were technically imposed by a president, albeit by a Congress that gave him the authority through legislation, couldn't Trump lift them? Again, he can't touch the Magnitsky sanctions, last year's sanctions, or the omnibus sanctions, but I'm not so sure about the 2014 sanctions.

But I've probably misunderstood something.
 
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KtotheRoc

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Part 3 (Final part)

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015438385832448001


All of this caused many insurers to leave many places with only one or two insurers. No his goal in holding a large sum of money owed to them would be to create enough chaos that insurers leave and many can’t find ACA coverage. 9/

Some people’s reality is being able to affordably care for their families. For Trump, his reality is to be able to stand at a rally and say he has killed the ACA. 10/
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1015440616178798597


The Republicans did this before. Led by Marco Rubio they cut what amounted to $12 billion in Risk Corridor payments to insurers. This put many small insurers out of business and caused others to withdraw from the market. Small nonprofit community plans need this funding.11/

At every turn, at every opportunity, Trump and the Rs in Congress will continue to aim to damage or kill the ACA. This is one more shot at Americans’ health care. /end
 

Sho_Nuff82

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I think this story provides new information, in that it's not just Trump and his lackeys asking for easing of sanctions, but more traditional members of the GOP.

Normalization is rationale enough to not enforce the sanctions, and on a long enough timeline, to have them voted against.
 
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