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KingK

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Oct 27, 2017
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Indianapolis

Seems like she's changing her strategy.
Good. I've been thinking she's been under utilizing her campaign finance strategy when drawing contrasts with other candidates. Her and Bernie can claim the moral high ground here, and they should.

Especially since you could see the change in Pete's rhetoric in real-time as the bundler money rolled in, which kinda proves her point.
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
11,657
Too soon.
😔

I will never understand how Buttigieg caught on and Beto didn't.
Pete has a proper campaign and did tons and tons of media hits. Beto pretty much shunned media and started hitting the trail without hiring a campaign manager first. I’m all for candidates trying out new strategies but Beto’s approach basically made it so that all his time spent grinding out on the campaign trail was being done in a vacuum.
 

Wonderment

Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
10,563
Love Warren calling out Pete too.

Also...

That's good. Keep us posted when his call to action is stronger than what Warren offered last night. And I'm serious, this is something that hasn't been sufficiently debated or addressed across the candidate pool, so anyone who goes in hard on this stuff will hopefully move things in the right direction for these folks.
 

Mulligan

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Oct 29, 2017
577
Maddow seems visibly upset about Trump-Russia tonight. For the average viewer, tonight’s show would look like any other, but at least to me, there’s much more urgent energy coming from her about the Trump Administration’s reaction to increasingly bold assassinations and actions by Russia.
 

Mulligan

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Oct 29, 2017
577
Lazio also nuked his campaign at the last minute by invading her personal space during a debate. Though she still would've won, it would've been closer. Even with Lazio's flub, she still underperformed Gore.
That was such a weird election for my family and my town. I was just 9, but my parents supported Gore for president, and Lazio for senate. Most people in my town supported Bush for president and Hillary for Senate.

Now the town and most of Long Island support Trump and hate Hillary. My parents hate Trump and have loved Hillary since she was sworn into the Senate in 2001. Also my mom is likely one of the few Bloomberg for President supporters way before he announced. She’s anti-gun, anti-diversity (she’s Acela racist), anti-abortion, supports M4A, supports LGBTQ rights, and hates taxes.

2000 was weird. My only hypothesis about it all is that most voters are dumb and vote based on name recognition and popularity.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
5,262
South Carolina
I'm not surprised; he was already a RINO to most Republican voters in CA. My Republican parents despise him.
Figures. That last ditch effort with them and Schwartzenegger to actually do what it takes to win in CA was spiked by the same. "Death Spiral" indeed.

I remember reading somewhere that the GOP havent been able to flip any seat D->R outside of said Governator since 1996 or some shit.




Even Wasserman acknowledges our advantage in the House.
And Emmer's dumb ass is leading the charge, women are more likely than ever to dislike the GOP, and suburb after suburb abandon them. No path. None.
 

Wonderment

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Oct 27, 2017
10,563
Maddow seems visibly upset about Trump-Russia tonight. For the average viewer, tonight’s show would look like any other, but at least to me, there’s much more urgent energy coming from her about the Trump Administration’s reaction to increasingly bold assassinations and actions by Russia.
Yep. Basically laid out "why the process of impeachment is happening" and bottom line is Russia. Also asking how someone could possibly remain president after this. Worth a watch later when the video goes up.
 

Blue Skies

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Mar 27, 2019
4,612
Maddow seems visibly upset about Trump-Russia tonight. For the average viewer, tonight’s show would look like any other, but at least to me, there’s much more urgent energy coming from her about the Trump Administration’s reaction to increasingly bold assassinations and actions by Russia.
ive been listening to "Blowout" and holy shit, all this Russia stuff is worse than we think. but since the masses don't pay attention none of its gonna matter.

im fuckind dumbfounded that Rex Tillerson was able to become Secretary of State.
I had no idea how involved he was with Russia.
this is why we need the senate
 
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TheHunter

TheHunter

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Oct 25, 2017
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To phrase my posts another way and quote someone more authoritative:



OK-05 is changing, but it's still a red R+10 district Trump won by double digits. If the best they can do to scare us is show a poll of a red district we won in an upset - not even a true swing district like, say, NJ-07 or something - showing impeachment at 45% approval...
This is why I called bullshit on those Wisconsin sierra polls.

There's no way we're at 45% in a red district and underwater in WI and MI. Get outta here.