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US PoliEra 2019 |OT10| Go Absent Yourself
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The Senate sets the rules of the trial at the beginning, so they could decide that no witnesses will be allowed. The question of witnesses was tabled at the beginning of Clinton's trial and only came up again a few weeks later when the House tried to call a witness. The Senate deliberated in secret on the question and eventually voted along party lines to allow the witness.
I don't know what would happen if the Senate agreed to call Hunter as a witness and he resisted. It's a good question. I think we're going to see a lot of untested things in this upcoming trial.
...You're right. Superficially he's the perfect candidate to appeal to those voters.We missed our chance.
Get the phone records for that day. Trump already claimed he "doesn't remember" it.
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Sahil Kapur @sahilkapurJust now on the Senate floor: Chris Murphy (D-CT) called for bringing up the universal gun background checks bill passed by the House; Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS) objected on behalf of Republicans, blocking consideration.
11:24 AM - Nov 14, 2019
Oliver Willis @owillisAt almost the exact moment news breaks of a school shooting in California, Sen. @ChrisMurphyCT made a Senate motion to consider the gun background check bill for a vote. The motion was blocked by Sen. @CindyHydeSmith (R-MS).
11:37 AM - Nov 14, 2019
11:37 AM - Nov 14, 2019
Bloomberg reportedly skipping the first states. Is his all just a threat to the dem party that he will run as independent in general? You ain't gunna win if you don't participate in the first states..........and his chances were 0 to begin with........ so WTH is he doing.
Sahil Kapur @sahilkapur
This is a response to Warren's new ad, which touts her wealth tax and singles out billionaires Lloyd Blankfein, Leon Cooperman, Joe Ricketts and Peter Thiel. https://youtu.be/mN0a_ZhYjac https://twitter.com/lloydblankfein/status/1195020090108006405 …
12:02 PM - Nov 14, 2019
Lloyd Blankfein @lloydblankfein
Surprised to be featured in Sen Warren's campaign ad, given the many severe critics she has out there. Not my candidate, but we align on many issues. Vilification of people as a member of a group may be good for her campaign, not the country. Maybe tribalism is just in her DNA.
11:46 AM - Nov 14, 2019
This is a response to Warren's new ad, which touts her wealth tax and singles out billionaires Lloyd Blankfein, Leon Cooperman, Joe Ricketts and Peter Thiel. https://youtu.be/mN0a_ZhYjac https://twitter.com/lloydblankfein/status/1195020090108006405 …
12:02 PM - Nov 14, 2019
Lloyd Blankfein @lloydblankfein
Surprised to be featured in Sen Warren's campaign ad, given the many severe critics she has out there. Not my candidate, but we align on many issues. Vilification of people as a member of a group may be good for her campaign, not the country. Maybe tribalism is just in her DNA.
11:46 AM - Nov 14, 2019
Nah, it's more like he wants delegates so he can be the white knight at a contested convention. His team has already admitted that state ballot requirements make an independent run not backed by an existing party (Libertarians, Greens, etc.) incredibly hard.
getting media attention so he can talk about that Mean Ol' Elizabeth Warren (or Mean Ol' Bernie if he starts rising in the polls)
If either Sanders or Warren is the nominee he is 100% running as an independent. Rich people, especially billionaires, care more about their money than anything else.
From my light research:
While white nationalist is often used as a euphemism for white supremacy because it's seen as less extreme, for Miller's case, at least, the White Nationalist label is actually the most etymological.
He not only espouses those views, but actions on them and holds them as a political ideology.
See:
I mean, if Bloomberg really runs as an indepedent to stop Warren/Bernie, wouldnt that make their anti greed anti corruption message stronger?
I couldn't think of a damn thing. Not much on Wikipedia, except him making casinos legal in MA, which is not a good thing imo.
The point of a spoiler candidate is to function as a potential vote siphon and nothing more
I doubt he has any illusions of winning but if he does just enough campaigning in the right places to draw away certain voting blocks on slim enough margins
Thats all you need to achieve your goals with our current systems as we have seen many times already
hearings for the next few weeks, shouldn't be a problem. Wouldn't be surprised if we go through 1-2 next week alone.
the next hearings will be pretty incredible. Next week with Sondland, Volker, Vindman, Hill....whew.
pure ether.
It doesn't sound as bad would be my guess.
It is a general rule (at least it is in the UK and I guess the US is roughly the same) that evidence is admissible only where it is relevant to whatever the dispute is that the court is hearing. And that includes witness evidence.
Since the Chief Justice presides over the Senate proceedings I'd expect this rule to be pretty closely adhered to.
It is really hard to see what relevance any testimony from Hunter Biden would have, since what Trump did is probably a high crime or misdemeanor quite regardless of anything that Biden may or may not have done.
I would say he's in it to make money, but he doesn't need more money.
The fucking world is on fire and we're too busy squabbling because of fucking egos.
Hmm
(Spoiler: There may be some subconscious sexism in play, but also he's always had a much more contentious relationship with Warren than Sanders - who he's more friendly with (so progressive!), and also he sees her base as more fluid than Sanders while she is a bigger threat to him.)
it's because bernie and biden are close friends (source: bernie sanders himself)
All the big news outlets send memos to their hosts telling them certain things that they can or cant say. I'd guess that "white supremacy" is one of the things they arent allowed to say, so they go with white nationalists because it doesn't sound as bad.
It's also because Bernie really doesn't go "hard" at people, even though he could. He usually just goes hard on the issues.
For instance. If Biden smashed on Bernie's student loan forgiveness stance, Bernie will just say because of Joe, you can't file for bankruptcy on student loans.
For instance. If Biden smashed on Bernie's student loan forgiveness stance, Bernie will just say because of Joe, you can't file for bankruptcy on student loans.
I mean, the only people to whom White Nationalism doesn't sound as bad as White Supremacy to are racists in the first place.
That's what i thought, but wasn't sure.
Someone mentioned Senate voting on witnesses before so who knows.
This is where I give Bloomberg some credit because he actually does put his money into down ballot races and important groups for gun control advocates, climate advocates, etc. Most of these guys though don't do anything other than raise money for their preferred candidates and call it a day at that.
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