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US PoliEra 2019 |OT10| Go Absent Yourself
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Matches up with Vindman's testimony:
4:55 PM - Nov 16, 2019
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1JENNIFER WILLIAMS' handwritten notes reflect that Zelensky mentioned 'Burisma' on the July 25 call, and she doesn't know why it's not in the White House summary.
Q: So you wouldn't have written that down if it hadn't come up during the call. Is that right?
WILLIAMS: Correct.
Q: So you wouldn't have written that down if it hadn't come up during the call. Is that right?
WILLIAMS: Correct.
4:55 PM - Nov 16, 2019
Remember that Republicans were against the autos bailout, which ultimately cost taxpayers $11BN. Meanwhile the famers bailout, which is a direct consequence of GOP policy, is already at $28BN and likely to end up over $40BN. And that hypocrite Grassley pushed for both farmer bailouts then personally profited from them.
The issue is that identity politics has already won the battle with class politics. You are not getting down-on-their-luck racists from Greene County Pennsylvania or anywhere else to make common cause with poor blacks and latinos. It just ain't happening, these folks are ride or die with their bigotry at this point.
I agree insofar as increasing turnout among the disenfranchised is a key part of the strategy, but it's not the magic bullet that's going to solve all problems, particularly because activating low propensity voters is a journey, but there are elections every year and it's not feasible to sustain that energy among low-propensity voters. It's how you get something like the swing from 2008-2010 wave elections. Obama woke up some folks but keeping them awake is the work of a generation, not of a single cycle.
People rightfully shit on Biden about thinking the way to passing legislation is working with Mitch McConnell and the GOP.
People rightfully shit on Sanders about thinking the way to passing legislation is trying to scare Mitch McConnell and the GOP.
These are not dichotomous.
Any theory of change that relies on getting the GOP to do what you want is pretty pointless in the present day.
It's not that positions like a public option can get votes from the GOP. It's that they can get votes from Sinemas and Hickenloopers.
Craig Silverman, a former deputy district attorney in Denver and current radio host on the conservative 710 KNUS, was taken off the air midshow Saturday after replaying an old interview clip in which he expressed hesitations about President Donald Trump.
Silverman told The Denver Post in a text message that the show was cut by management as he replayed parts of a 2015 interview he conducted with Trump confidant Roger Stone. On Friday, Stone was convicted of impeding investigators in a bid to protect the president.
In the clip, Silverman told Stone that one thing that concerned him about Trump was his relationship with Roy Cohn, the president's former personal lawyer who helped Sen. Joe McCarthy during the investigation into suspected Communists in the 1950s.
Silverman responded to state representative Dylan Roberts, an Eagle Democrat, on Twitter, saying "I cannot and will not toe strict Trump party line. I call things I see them."
The former prosecutor, who hosted "The Craig Silverman Show" on Saturdays from 9 a.m. to noon, continued: "I see corruption and blatant dishonesty by President and his cronies. I also see bullying/smearing of American heroes w/courage to take oath and tell truth. Their bravery inspires me."
Representatives from KNUS did not immediately respond in a request for comment. Silverman's show page appears to have been removed from the station's website. A link to his show gives a "404 Error — NotFound."
Jack Kuenzie @JKuenzieFundraising letter from @FLOTUS
That signature looks famil...WAIT A MINUTE.
That signature looks famil...WAIT A MINUTE.
5:33 PM - Nov 16, 2019
straight up authoritarianism
Im curious what Sondland does. I figure he either completely spills or goes into full "I don't recall mode", nothing in between. Trump world is probably working really hard to scare him right now.
edit: KENTUCKY IS A BLUE STATE WHAT IS THIS GUY SMOKING. I mean yeah, if you ignore every statewide position (including federal) except governor.
Sondland has good counsel and he knows he has no one supporting him. He will tell everything asked, but "coming clean" and offer anything more/new is an unforced error at this point.
Jack Kuenzie @JKuenzie
Fundraising letter from @FLOTUS
That signature looks famil...WAIT A MINUTE.
5:33 PM - Nov 16, 2019
And this isn't the first time her "signature" looked like Trump's.
so you think if asked about the phone call he "won't recall" and will only answer questions he already testified to?
He can't afford to "can't recall" now that they already got a couple of witnesses testifying about it.
He'll coordinate his response to fit the facts corroborated by multiple witnesses. What I think we won't get is volunteered information during questioning that hasn't been unearthed by other witnesses.
And the last take ill have on this is that Sinemas and Hickenloopers wont even agree to the moderate change.
Maybe, maybe not, but I'm not willing to trust those types of Democrats.
"I make lots of calls, I don't remember this particular one." I mean, isn't that what these people do in depositions? Hopefully not, but we'll see. He's already lied under oath.
Jeremy Diamond @JDiamond1Trump's 2 previous physical exams in office were announced ahead of time by the White House and noted on his daily public schedule.
This time, the President's motorcade drove to Walter Reed unannounced, w/ reporters directed not to report the movement until arriving @ Walter Reed https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1195793030143496193 …
4:03 PM - Nov 16, 2019
Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1This time, the President's motorcade drove to Walter Reed unannounced, w/ reporters directed not to report the movement until arriving @ Walter Reed https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1195793030143496193 …
4:03 PM - Nov 16, 2019
From Stephanie Grisham: "After a quick exam and labs, the President is headed back downtown.
The President remains healthy and energetic without complaints, as demonstrated by his repeated vigorous rally performances in front of thousands of Americans several times a week."
The President remains healthy and energetic without complaints, as demonstrated by his repeated vigorous rally performances in front of thousands of Americans several times a week."
5:27 PM - Nov 16, 2019
It may not be easy, but appealing to class has some chance of working with those people. Shaming them has 0% of working. The disenfranchised voter is a better target to appeal to anyway. If some low key and high key racists get swept up in it too, okay, but turning them shouldn't be the ultimate goal.
The problem with obama is that he woke a bunch of people up on a platform of hope and change and big structural shakeups... and then promptly put them back to sleep when he ended up running a generic dem white house, though with arguably more naive "let's just work together with republicans, there's no red america or blue america, etc, etc" messaging. Promising hope and change and then not delivering is probably more harmful than not promising it at all when it comes to energizing people over the long term.
Ugh I've seen like 5 examples but the only one I have on me rn is this that was deleted from his website after criticism
Yeah I don't expect Sondland to turn into a hero anytime soon, he'll probably admit (at his lawyer's urging) to anything that has been corroborated by others but not add anything to it whatsoever
Hickenlooper ran on a public option, and talked about a long term transition to single payer.
The ultimate point is that these Senators won't answer to a Bernie Sanders admin, any more than Mitch McConnell and the GOP would.
She's so fucking goofy and kind awkward but I love it
i hope his limited amount of human energy isnt running out.
But im not getting my hopes up, evil is an inexplicably good fuel source.
But im not getting my hopes up, evil is an inexplicably good fuel source.
Slimey in what way? I'm no fan either but haven't been keeping up with him much
Ultra YIKESUgh I've seen like 5 examples but the only one I have on me rn is this that was deleted from his website after criticism
Why do you keep harping on this crock that these voters turned on neoliberal shill Obummer for letting them down, despite it being shown this isn't the case.
When you control for everything else, racism and sexism was what the biggest predictor of Trump vote.
"White working class" in financial distress were more likely to vote for Hillary.
PoC who are worse off than white people voted for Hillary.
If you want to "blame" Obama for racists voting for Trump, you can blame him for existing as a black man who was President making race more salient.
I know Trump's press secretaries have issued a lot of lies, but saying Trump is "without complaints" might be the most egregious.
Yea. I've been trying to point this out to people for a while now. Nobody seems to bother checking Yang's stances outside of his UBI policy. Someone really needs to pressure him on his immigration stance during the next debate, because it's basically Center-Right.
"The President remains healthy and energetic without complaints, as demonstrated by his repeated vigorous rally performances in front of thousands of Americans several times a week."
Look how he is able to squander his time in office and waste tax payer dollars campaigning instead of presiding several times a week with such vim and vigor!
Jack Kuenzie @JKuenzie
Fundraising letter from @FLOTUS
That signature looks famil...WAIT A MINUTE.
5:33 PM - Nov 16, 2019
Sincerely,
Sulain Jimmy
Even his specific UBI implementation is bad. There's a way better version of it to be had that would do a lot of good and seriously go a long way towards closing the gap, but his ain't it.
But if this is right, how are we going to win 2020?
Is the country any less racist now than it was in 2016?
Yeah the reaction here to that Biden tweet is real Bitch Eating Crackers stuff. It was an easy inoffensive dig at Trump which plays so well with easily offended middle American white voters who want things to just go back to normal.
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