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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Beto is pretty fiery. He is going to run. Still think a harris/Beto ticket in either order would be a golden ticket but one of them likely isn't going to take the VP slot. I guess Beto maybe would because what else is he going to do.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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JJ:

Rep. Jim Jordan @Jim_Jordan

While the President was giving a great speech in El Paso, Congress was putting together a bad deal on immigration.#DoWhatWeSaid
 
Oct 25, 2017
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/11/18220721/utah-medicaid-expansion-prop-3-sb96

Utah Republicans have officially blocked their state’s voter-approved Medicaid expansion

Utah voters decided to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act in November. But the Republican legislature is scaling back the voter-approved plan.

The Republican legislature has passed legislation that would, in effect, replace the voter-approved Medicaid expansion with a more limited version that would actually cover fewer people while spending more money in the first few years. The bill passed both chambers with a two-thirds majority. It now heads to Republican Gov. Gary Herbert, who is expected to sign it
The ballot measure approved by the voters by a 53-47 margin was unambiguous: The state would expand Medicaid to 138 percent of the federal poverty level — about $16,800 for an individual or $29,700 for a family of three — as prescribed in the health care law. It would cover 150,000 of Utah’s poorest people. The state’s share of Medicaid expansion spending (about 10 percent, with the feds picking up the other 90) was to be paid for by an increase in the sales tax.

The legislation approved by Republicans would repeal the ballot referendum and replace it with new provisions to extend Medicaid eligibility up to only 100 percent of the poverty level and the state would have to initially pick up 30 percent of the cost. About 60,000 fewer people would be covered, and Utah would spend $72 million over the next two years. The bill is very similar to a plan Utah Republicans approved last year for a partial Medicaid expansion that did not actually take effect.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Cruz is popular in Texas. Yeah a lot of people hate him but he has a ton of true believers on his side.

Cornyn by contrast isn't as controversial, but he's also much more anonymous.
Cornyn isn't? He's been there forever.

You actually can make a pretty good argument Betos best shot at long term success is if he cant win the nom go with the VP and then have a better shot at the nom later on.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Mark Meadows @RepMarkMeadows

This conference agreement is hardly a serious attempt to secure our border or stop the flow of illegal immigration. It kicks the can down the road yet again, failing to address the critical priorities outlined by Border Patrol Chiefs.

Congress is not doing its job.




Bob Moore @BobMooreNews

El Paso County Coliseum officials tell me about 6,000 people watched the @realDonaldTrump rally on screens outside, on top of the 7,000 inside. So total of about 13,000.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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He will lose. Texas is still Texas and he only got close because he was running against Cruz.
You do not understand Texas politics. Cruz is more popular than Trump in Texas. Beto lost because he improved on Hillary with all but one group: Hispanic voters. If you can flip them vs. Cornyn, you win the race.
Cornyn isn't? He's been there forever.
He is very much more anonymous. It shows up in polling. There's a big "who are you?" gap in polling w/ Cruz vs Cornyn. https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

You know who else had this problem? Bill Nelson. Where did he lose the race outside of the Broward shit? Not campaigning to hispanic voters.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The Daily Show gave Klobuchar staffing more attention than Maddow did, and showed she gave the same exact rehearsed answer yesterday to George Stephanapolous.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So manafort filing says he was the "infection vector" re Russia on trump campaign. MSNBC reporting. Tried to do a search and not seeing anything. Not sure if already posted in here.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I’m leaning towards this being what I want him to do

Even if he loses again. We need to make the GOP play as much defense as humanly possible this time. If anything, the fact that they do might help him.
If he can win, I think he'd be able to carry enough downticket Dems with him to flip the State House.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Exclusive interview on border deal: "We'll see what happens"


Laura Ingraham @IngrahamAngle

Stay tuned to @FoxNews 10pET for #IngrahamAngle EXCLUSIVE interview with @realDonaldTrump on a possible new border deal.

Katie Rogers @katierogers

Laura Ingraham scores a POTUS interview on border negotiations. He tells her he was given a choice between learning about about the deal and talking to her.

He chose her, so here's the exclusive border negotiations update: "They're talking and we'll see what happens."


Edit:
Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT

POTUS moving to keep "build the wall" from being an unkept campaign promise, in intv w @IngrahamAngle tonight: "We’re building it right now. We don’t even say build the wall anymore. We say finish the wall because we’ve built a lot and we’re renovating a tremendous amount..."


Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT

"We are just lapping the world, you compare, you know, it used to be like we were a second sister to China. "
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Klobuchar is a complete non-starter anyway for her total wuss "I wouldn't have killed the voting requirements for the judiciary and I wouldn't want to kill the filibuster in general" bullshit stance.

If you're not willing to kill the filibuster to shove a bunch of important shit through in the two years that you have (ideally) the executive and both branches of Congress, get the fuck outta here.

It really is Kamala who is going to win this thing unless Biden can play spoiler. She's the only one running who seems to have some concept of where the party is going and what it wants.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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NBC News: Lawmakers reach deal to avert shutdown with fence funding but no money for border wall
The White House didn't comment on the agreement and Trump said at the rally, "We probably have some good news but who knows."
The details of the deal, according to multiple sources, were as follows:
  • $1.375 billion for border barrier enhancements like steel slats and other "existing technologies," but no concrete wall
  • The money would fund about 55 miles of new barrier
  • Geographic restrictions on where the new fencing could built, likely limited to the Rio Grand Valley sector of the border
  • DHS would receive $1.7 billion in new funding for border security that could include technology at ports of entry, additional customs officers and humanitarian aid
  • No cap on the number of beds for enforcing immigration laws in the country's interior
  • Funding for approximately 40,520 detention beds for detained immigrants
Top Democratic negotiators Rep. Nita Lowey of New York and Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont met behind closed doors with their Republican counterparts, Rep. Kay Granger of Texas and Shelby.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Trump is avoiding hearing about the deal in order to say on television he doesn't know anything about the deal. Okie dokie. What I don't get is why he drew attention to the fact twice tonight. Dementia? Pre-emptively showing contempt?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The Daily Show gave Klobuchar staffing more attention than Maddow did, and showed she gave the same exact rehearsed answer yesterday to George Stephanapolous.
I think I’ll take an obviously canned whatever response to scandals this cycle vs last time where Hillary, after two years, seemed completely bewildered and unprepared every time she was asked about it. Like still blows my mind how they just seemed completely uninterested in coming up with anything
 
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Midnight Jon
Oct 25, 2017
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Coverage in 2020 isn't going to be any better than it was in 2016.
probably also ain't gonna help if people go into circular firing squads over dumb shit on social media again, like how a now Facebook ex-friend just called Harris "black Hillary" because she went on the Breakfast Club and said she inhaled about a minute after explicitly calling for legalization
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Mark Meadows @RepMarkMeadows

This conference agreement is hardly a serious attempt to secure our border or stop the flow of illegal immigration. It kicks the can down the road yet again, failing to address the critical priorities outlined by Border Patrol Chiefs.

Congress is not doing its job.




Bob Moore @BobMooreNews

El Paso County Coliseum officials tell me about 6,000 people watched the @realDonaldTrump rally on screens outside, on top of the 7,000 inside. So total of about 13,000.
God I hope there was a bunch of NM license plates on the South Side tonight cause that's a depressingly large number.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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probably also ain't gonna help if people go into circular firing squads over dumb shit on social media again, like how a now Facebook ex-friend just called Harris "black Hillary" because she went on the Breakfast Club and said she inhaled about a minute after explicitly calling for legalization
That shit is definitely going to happen again.

(I have very little actual hope for the future.)
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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NBC News: Lawmakers reach deal to avert shutdown with fence funding but no money for border wall
The White House didn't comment on the agreement and Trump said at the rally, "We probably have some good news but who knows."
The details of the deal, according to multiple sources, were as follows:

  • $1.375 billion for border barrier enhancements like steel slats and other "existing technologies," but no concrete wall
  • The money would fund about 55 miles of new barrier
  • Geographic restrictions on where the new fencing could built, likely limited to the Rio Grand Valley sector of the border
  • DHS would receive $1.7 billion in new funding for border security that could include technology at ports of entry, additional customs officers and humanitarian aid
  • No cap on the number of beds for enforcing immigration laws in the country's interior
  • Funding for approximately 40,520 detention beds for detained immigrants
Top Democratic negotiators Rep. Nita Lowey of New York and Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont met behind closed doors with their Republican counterparts, Rep. Kay Granger of Texas and Shelby.
And what do the democrats get?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Klobuchar is a complete non-starter anyway for her total wuss "I wouldn't have killed the voting requirements for the judiciary and I wouldn't want to kill the filibuster in general" bullshit stance.

If you're not willing to kill the filibuster to shove a bunch of important shit through in the two years that you have (ideally) the executive and both branches of Congress, get the fuck outta here.

It really is Kamala who is going to win this thing unless Biden can play spoiler. She's the only one running who seems to have some concept of where the party is going and what it wants.
I think what her angle might be here is that almost everyone else is running on the “how do you do fellow socialists” platform to the point where they are going to drown each other out. If Biden doesn’t run I don’t think there’s really anyone who is taking the “yes I’m the moderate, let’s all work together and shake hands”, but yeah gunning for like second at best seems sort of like a weird strategy. I guess maybe Booker is doing that too but I can’t tell if he’s intentionally doing that or if he’s really actually trying to move left just doing it badly
 
It seems kind of notable that he's doing what's ostensibly a campaign rally in Texas.
I'm seeing some talk of "can Beto flip as Senator/Prez candidate" while just THREATENING the lone GOP EV Battery is enough of a win, really.

Yeah, they're really gonna try to push the "infanticide, late term abortion, and post-birth abortion" message all of 2020. Especially after VA and NYC.
Its the pair-of-fours that they've been dealt now. ALL IN.

Will the voters learn the lesson here? Signs point to no.
Voters (relatively) rebeled against shit-head ignoring of referendums recently and state-level GOP fuckery in general and they have a Dem congresscritter for now. We'll see.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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fun fact - if the Democratic nominee in 2020 flipped Texas (and every state closer than it came along), the biggest state the GOP would win would be Indiana
 
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