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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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Might explain why she has been pretty quiet over the past several months. Probably don't want to hold press briefings and incriminate yourself every week if you don't have to.
the mere existence of Republican politicians disproves the existence of a meritocracy
"the national emergency to build your vanity project is a bad idea because transgender people exist" is extremely fucking stupid
So he's being explicit that he's basically a billionaire veto to the democrat's choice.
As for how he's getting so much media attention, he's basically got a leg up from both ends. Schultz hires people with connections that'll work diligently to pull on strings to get airtime, and the most elite journalists are pretty susceptible to complying because they are generally wealthy white metropolitan men who are sympathetic to Schultz's anxiety that neither party is representing them very well anymore.
But can you imagine if she got hit with a perjury charge? The fantasy alone is gonna make my weekend.
Just in case people had any questions whatsoever about billionaires wielding extreme power in our political system...
I hope she couldn't contain herself and lied her ass off. If her, Trump, Jr. and Nunes go down, I'll be so fucking happy.
Its a lot of women, shes suck
I believe Sanders has been part of the organisation since early on and latter became the press secretary so shes more involved than people think.
I believe Sanders has been part of the organisation since early on and latter became the press secretary so shes more involved than people think.
Yep. Schultz is fully admitting here that he would rather have Trump as president than a liberal. (Which we already knew)
Indeed. She's in all internal pictures released of small meetings.
Yep -- without his money and corporate influence, he would just be another third party nobody.
Then what's the point?
Is this just how things normally are? Lawyers are just more restricted by judges in general? A free speech precedent?
Wait, so what's the National Emergency entail? Is the wall actually happening? Who the fuck is even paying for it?
I've been working since 7AM so I'm tired as hell.
I've been working since 7AM so I'm tired as hell.
A scam. No. Taxpayers until the courts ordered it halt for being a fake emergency they can't justify.
So he admits that he's a spoiler candidate and is basically running to protect his money.
I would think Trump's own words about the wall already being built and working would be used against him as well. How can there be a need for a national emergency to build the wall if the wall is already built?
To add specificity to point 3, the money would come from previously appropriated funds.
-The bulk ($5B) would come from Military Construction funds, which, as it sounds, is a large account used for the construction of physical military infrastructure, like bases.
-Some of it would come from the asset forfeiture fund at the Department of Treasury. This is apparently extremely unpopular in gov't because numerous law enforcement agencies rely on this fund for operations.
-Another large chunk ($2.5B) would get drawn from funds earmarked for drug interdiction. This is the most ironic of the funding streams, because it takes money from legitimate programs to prevent large scale drug smuggling, and reroutes them to a terrible solution that will do nothing to stop drug smuggling.
-Some of the money would come from the CR congress just passed. It was supposed to go to smarter solutions like hiring manpower and increasing electronic surveillance, but YOPO (you're only president once).
The good news is that every one of these poses different challenges to Trump actually accessing the money. Some (like asset forfeiture) have strict rules in place regarding their use, and will draw an almost automatic legal challenge. Others simply have a large pool of potential recipients that won't take kindly to Trump raiding them.
It will probably work to tie things up in lower courts but SCOTUS ruled in the travel ban that a president's words and actions have no bearing on his ability to exercise power.
A national emergency declaration also doesn't supersede eminent domain laws, so if it even gets that far, they'll be in court for years with landowners... by which time it'll be moot because Trump will be gone. Remember, we still have eminent domain cases from the Bush years working their way through the system.
Of course, a major issue with that earmarked misappropriated money is this 5.7 billion number they've become fixated on wouldn't fund shit. The actual, entire wall would wind up costing hundreds of billions and years and years, more than Trump would have even with a second term. The seizures of Americans' private lands alone would be years of litigation, maybe even actual decades (I believe there's still cases from the Bush admin over eminent domain yet to finish). Trump would be long dead in a grave of ever present piss and they'd still be litigating.
It would never be finished, and it would undoubtedly be the most corrupt, poorly run project in US history. Imagine the amount of contractors bribing the Trump admin to get deals on the construction or supply, imagine how inefficient the planning or building would be. I'd say it would be years before you even saw a mile of completed wall. They'll never justify this to a court.
They don't even have any design for it and they're demanding money without having any answer for where it's going to. Just a nebulous "wall" abstraction.
It would never be finished, and it would undoubtedly be the most corrupt, poorly run project in US history. Imagine the amount of contractors bribing the Trump admin to get deals on the construction or supply, imagine how inefficient the planning or building would be. I'd say it would be years before you even saw a mile of completed wall. They'll never justify this to a court.
They don't even have any design for it and they're demanding money without having any answer for where it's going to. Just a nebulous "wall" abstraction.
I go on and on and on about how stupid this wall is often, because I am regularly struck by its fundamental idiocy as a concept, and how stupid someone would have to be to think any of it would ever happen.
Certainly something we should all remember. There's no way that any significant construction occurs before 2021, so if a D president is elected, they'll simply end the declaration of a state of emergency.
Obviously this will still fuck over a ton of people and waste a ton of money if it gets to that point, so we should really hope for a congressional or SCOTUS solution, ASAP.
I suspect Roberts will be with a 5-4 (or just maybe 6-3) majority against the executive on this one. He's very much a due process guy and very protective of the court system - he will not take kindly to this blatant attempt to circumvent the 2nd Circuit.
It's not the same as the VRA decision, and he'd probably take VRA differently were it to come up again - as there would be the new evidence that we've all seen that it wasn't merely based on decades-old data, but that actively diminishing minority votes is an alive and kicking thing.
Yes, the threat remains.
People need to abandon Starbucks and continue to denounce this selfish fuck.
Yes, but he still splits the vote enough to re-elect Trump.
This shit is serious, even if we think everybody can see how ridiculous this asshole is.
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