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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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Curious to know if Klobuchar is making available for interviews the staff she says she loves. Or the person in the audience screaming and leading the applause.
That Coates has been able to get away with contradicting Trump as often as he has and still remain in his job to date really highlights how redundant the DNI office is.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/bernie-sanders-announces-2020-run-extended-interview/
Check out Bernie's super divisive burn the house down rhetoric around 3:24
Check out Bernie's super divisive burn the house down rhetoric around 3:24
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This hot take is all over the internet this morning despite it begging the OPPOSITE question :
"Why are you supporting Kamala/Warren /Gillibrand /Beto /Whoever when they have almost the same policy positions as Bernie!?"
um.. because they're not really old men with tons of real, recent and rhetorical baggage who are hiding their tax returns for some specific but secret reason. Oh and because they're actually part of the democratic party.
"Why are you supporting Kamala/Warren /Gillibrand /Beto /Whoever when they have almost the same policy positions as Bernie!?"
um.. because they're not really old men with tons of real, recent and rhetorical baggage who are hiding their tax returns for some specific but secret reason. Oh and because they're actually part of the democratic party.
Or, just to flip the question, "Why are you supporting Bernie when Kamala/Warren/Gillibrand/Beto whoever is nowhere near as likely to die in office?"
Pretty much. There is a graceful way to say what he's saying, that you were there in the early days and whatnot, but to use it agressively means to me that he still has not learned any lessons from 2016 and is increasingly out of touch with the very movement he's claiming.
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what the fuck
Fuck off.
Also, hey Bernie, can we do the same on the gun control issue?
To which I could just answer with "I prefer Kamala/Warren/etc over Bernie any day. I'm not obligated to support Bernie just because."
And they'll just have to live with my decision.
We'll see if he changes his tune if it looks like he might not win. Keep in mind this is the man who started attacking the Democratic party's authenticity and moral integrity when it became obvious that he didn't have their majority support.
The "I was there first" attack might work against someone like Gillibrand or Booker, but I don't any you can credibly lay claim to being the OG progressive when you're running against someone like Warren.
I hate this argument anyway because it ties the value of the party's leftward policy shift to exactly one person and not, you know, the value of those left-moving policies!
I hate this argument anyway because it ties the value of the party's leftward policy shift to exactly one person and not, you know, the value of those left-moving policies!
You guys are taking a few words from an interview and running with it with 2016 baggage. Maybe he was super aggressive on SiriusXM, I haven't listened to that interview, but watch this CBS interview -- he's either all over the place or the SiriusXM quote is taken out of context and he actually did learn the lessons you're talking about.
Dickerson puts out some bait and he doesn't take it: 3:24, 6:29, 14:50
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/bernie-sanders-announces-2020-run-extended-interview/
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I'd appreciate it if one of the candidates came out for ranked choice voting for federal elections.
Also, jokes aside, my #1 is Warren, but my fear is that the campaign would be a special brand of vile and I don't know if I want that.
Probably Harris after that.
I really like Buttigieg but I'd rather he get a little more seasoning first.
Also, jokes aside, my #1 is Warren, but my fear is that the campaign would be a special brand of vile and I don't know if I want that.
Probably Harris after that.
I really like Buttigieg but I'd rather he get a little more seasoning first.
For me, it's:
1. Warren
2. Buttigieg
3. Castro
That's just from a "sounds good so far" point of view. Everyone else is in firm "hold my nose and vote for them in the general" territory.
I do not like Bernard Sanders. At all.
I will not vote for Bernard Sanders in the primary.
If he wins the primary, I will happily vote for Bernard Sanders in the general because I hate Trump and all the pain this administration has caused. I wouldn't hesitate for a moment and would tell everyone I know to vote for him, too. I'm not sure how that's even a question.
I will not vote for Bernard Sanders in the primary.
If he wins the primary, I will happily vote for Bernard Sanders in the general because I hate Trump and all the pain this administration has caused. I wouldn't hesitate for a moment and would tell everyone I know to vote for him, too. I'm not sure how that's even a question.
Basically where I'm at. I just hope the Democratic candidates don't damage each other too much.
I do not like Bernie Sanders at all. I think is a a rude, selfish, entitled, out of touch asshole.
I would vote for him in the general without hesitation.
I would vote for him in the general without hesitation.
Can you do that? Aren't states allowed to run it as they see fit?
because Bernie "means it" and the others are just "pandering", establishment, in the pocket of big oil, etc. Is basically how these things go. Not much use engaging imo.
For the most strident of his supporters (on Twitter at least), field size is irrelevant, everyone but Bernie is the "anointed" choice of the establishment, with their fire trained especially on whoever's getting some attention today, retweeting Trump supporters unironically. Those people probably won't be convinced otherwise. Fortunately the Twitter bubble does not reflect the electorate (nor does ERA)—frankly I think the vast majority of Dems just want to win now.
Can't speak for the man himself, hopefully he won't be shouting rigged this time if he starts losing, we really don't need that again.
Or respond less adversarially and say you like how Bernie has shifted the party but stuff like his age is a concern and you'd feel more comfortable with someone younger and without some of his baggage taking his strong progressive vision forward.
Want a less divisive primary in 2020? Emphasize the candidates' alignment with each other more than their differences.
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Don't know. Doesn't mean you can't at least get people talking about it.
Fake news, trump doesn't watch cnn /s
Four years ago Jeb was the Republican front runner
I'm not sure Jeb ever led a poll tbh. He just had the most money.
How is this even a thing?
JUST IN: Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released an interim report based on multiple whistleblowers who say the Trump administration is rushing to transfer sensitive U.S. nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in violation of federal law.
Add it to the obstruction list, which has gotta be in the "baker's dozen" number at this point.
It's possible the Saudis have business dirt (possible crimes he committed before being president) on Trump too and he's not just compromised by the Russians.
He was the frontrunner of the "invisible primary," too bad that ended up meaning jack shit.
This is me as well.
If Bernie manages to get the nomination, I'll just deal with it and vote for him. "If" being the key term as I'm not gonna contribute to a vote in his direction during the primary.
I have to imagine he's compromised by several entities at this point.
I don't have time to coddle people, especially Bernie Bros. I liked Bernie in 2016 and would have voted for him, despite his age. Putting an 80 year old in the White House for his first term is nuts.
It's a deliberate effect of a demagogue.
It's a tactic of a demagogue to take a common thing people have disliked for decades (such as cable news' sensationalist tactics to fill airtime and keep viewers engaged), but reframe and magnify it in a more sinister and self-serving way ("fake news", "enemy of the people", "unfair criticism", etc.) and muddy the waters.
People feel a sense of cognitive dissonance trying to save the fourth estate. Defending CNN against the mountain of bullshit flung by Trump practically means you have to imply CNN is a paragon of journalism. Same thing happens with the New York Times.
I hope we can have the clarity to remember CNN on a garbage day is still more honest than the Trump admin on a day they think God's watching them.
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