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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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There be thread in OT. WAPO Letter pleading with repubs. Says Mueller report might come soon.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.fd0108bac09f
So a sitting President *could* be indicted, maybe, possibly; at least it's not established precedent that they *can't* wrt Nixon and Agnew. Cool story.
In general I'm down on shows like this because I used to be really into them during Dubya's terms, and then I realized the only difference between Beck's dumb whiteboards and Olbermann/Maddow's is that the latter were telling me things I wanted to hear. It's always "we've got a bombshell connection tonight that you aren't gonna believe." It's never what the shows claim it is.
I don't think Maddow has bad or duplicitous intent. But she really needs to get out of her own wonkish brain sometimes and realize when a legitimately good story is only good and fantastical to her.
Like, this scoop really didn't need all she gave it.
Like, this scoop really didn't need all she gave it.
Well, thats a wrong take. Maddow doesnt frequently do your hype 'bombshells'. Also comparing her to Beck...lmao.
I agree with that poster. They're all trash. She has done this too many times. Shes the modern day ed schultz.
Ah yes the reductive 'they're all trash'. Such a complex stance. I'd love to see all the times she has done it. I remember 2 or 3 off the top of my head where she got on the twitter to say watch for new news. I watch her usually, and it typically involves recapping the days events with context.
Done what exactly? Gone on twitter and calmly explained that her show would be different tonight?
You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry
Why should I care about something someone who's dead did 40 years ago? It's not a bombshell about *anything*
Like, your position is basically interesting historical events dont matter especially when they are brand new. That's not a winning position and you just look silly for thinking it.
Because that dead someone inspired a DOJ memo about whether or not a sitting president and/or vice president could be indicted. That memo has been taken by many as gospel ever since, inspiring the belief that the president can't be indicted because his constitutional responsibilities are too great. Giuliani explicitly said as much. Ms. Maddow presented a pretty compelling history of that memo and why it doesn't say what a lot of people think it says. Agnew was context for the memo and why the memo is so, so important today.
History matters. A lot.
Tonight's show was extremely overhyped, bu that's a ridiculous comparison. No other cable news host devotes so much time to *explaining* the news and historical context instead of chatting with talking heads. It's telling how notable it is when she misfires, because she rarely does.
Her show is the complete opposite of CNN prime time but she can go a bit too far in the other direction at times.
That's not what I mean at all. It's just not a bombshell in any way, shape or form.
You know ive seen more 'bombshell' and overhype talk from you guys after watching it than i did before. I know I wasn't expecting anything earth shattering, even after reading her little 'we got new news tonight' post.
Her show is in no way similar to Ed Schutlz's show (RIP, Ed). Like, I don't know what you expected? She said they were working on getting documents earlier in the week. Like, were people expecting pictures of Mueller's bulletin board?
I hate how many of you don't 100% love Rach, one of the few beacons of decent context, background, and analysis in a sea of utter shit. Her programming during this era will go down as hall of fame worthy.
Did I mention decency? She and Chris Hayes are the only actual *humans* in this disgusting ass lizard kingdom of cable news.
To be honest, I kind of can't tell them apart. I refer to Chris Hayes as "male rachel maddow" when I talk with people about him.
Why are we poo-pooing a Special Report for being a special report?
It was "hyped" in that she told us days ago she was going to have a special report.
Especially since the implications of it, is crap we're dealing with currently.
It was "hyped" in that she told us days ago she was going to have a special report.
Especially since the implications of it, is crap we're dealing with currently.
It happens any time she suggests she has something new. People act as if she's claiming she's got the evidence that will get Trump impeached no matter how mildly she promoted the show.
Then they get mad at her for overhyping the news when it didn't meet their overinflated expectations.
His book "Twilight of the Elites" is brilliant, a must-read, but I never bother to watch him. He's like Ari Melber minus the dope musical taste.
Bernie will hopefully (and rightfully) be roasted alive by the other candidates for claiming he can magically come up with 60 votes on any partisan issue.
Let's take a break from primary discussion to shit on Nomiki Konst! Politico published a new article today which completely eviscerated the Debate Champ:
Surely this "former blogger" and "pro-[ANYONE] *air quotes* journalist *air quotes*" has important things to say!
She's on TYT, ergo she's a progressive. Don't disrespect her like that.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, I can only hope you left off the /s
The ultimate irony was the movie failing at the box office, and relying on donations for sequel production.
I was dead serious. I get all my progressive news from TYT and Bernie Sanders's Dank Meme Chest.
Atlas Shrugged is a fascinating case study: there's something undeniably readable about it -- I blasted through the whole book in a week soon after I graduated college -- but it has no respect for its readers' intelligence. There's a goddamn 60+ page political manifesto that comes after 900 pages full of blunt objectivist monologues. It also features the protagonist justifying being sexually assaulted because the dude was strong enough to dominate her.
There was an Armenian genocide, certainly not an 'armenian' one tbh.
Well, fair enough, but do you believe there wasn't one, since TYT certainly don't.
Indeed! (Although on a serious note, I have a couple of friends who get their news primarily through Facebook meme pages rather than news site links. I didn't think much of it back in 2016, but whew.)
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