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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm lttp on this but this whole thing about Clinton campaign staffers bitching about Bernie campaigning for Clinton in 2016...like, guys. Just shut the fuck up.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is there like, a video clip section of msnbc's website? Marcy Wheeler is on tonight and I wanted to watch the segment. Apparently I'm old and can't navigate this thing (not sure what show she might be on in particular).

edit: think I found it but don't see her segment yet
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Can someone explain to me why there's nothing wrong with Sanders' answer and how stutteringly badly he gave it?
I'm not doing this, but his wife did their taxes herself, and any problems with them will reflect on her, so he's soft-pedaling it? She might be putting him off and he doesn't want to stand up to her? Maybe they're having a real accountant go over them? I think he doesn't want to do it because he's wealthy and it will make him look hypocritical.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If Bernie doesn’t want to prepare any better answers to some of these questions his best hope is that Biden runs and gives him cover by somehow giving significantly worse ones to the point where people don’t even remember
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not doing this, but his wife did their taxes herself, and any problems with them will reflect on her, so he's soft-pedaling it? She might be putting him off and he doesn't want to stand up to her? Maybe they're having a real accountant go over them? I think he doesn't want to do it because he's wealthy and it will make him look hypocritical.
She's been "doing their taxes" since 2016... I assume there would be no problem releasing earlier years. Something's off imo
 

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I'm not doing this, but his wife did their taxes herself, and any problems with them will reflect on her, so he's soft-pedaling it? She might be putting him off and he doesn't want to stand up to her? Maybe they're having a real accountant go over them? I think he doesn't want to do it because he's wealthy and it will make him look hypocritical.


I don't mind if he's wealthy. Of course he's wealthy! He's legally allowed to do insider trading. His disclosures to congress contain the fact that he's way better off than the vast majority of Americans. But he's had three years to think up a better answer. So has his wife. He's applying for the most pivotal job on earth, "my wife is sensitive about doing our taxes" literally isn't good enough, even if we were credulous enough to buy it.

But whatever the reason is, "Mrs. Bernie is still making them look nice" is absurd. And he must know this is going to boil over. Maybe it's a super convoluted, matrixed, long=game three year plan to make anyone who doubted him look foolish.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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But whatever the reason is, "Mrs. Bernie is still making them look nice" is absurd. And he must know this is going to boil over. Maybe it's a super convoluted, matrixed, long=game three year plan to make anyone who doubted him look foolish.
That is definitely an overestimation of the skill level of the parties involved.
My assumption is that Bernie has engaged in a large amount of the conduct he has been critical of, and is either preparing an addendum to his current stump speech to feed the base; or he legit can't find the accordion folder where they've kept the taxes for the last 30 years.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Looks like India is dropping bombs inside Pakistan tonight, would be the first crossing of the LoC in almost 50 years. Interesting to see if this changes anything for the overseas trip/summit if things escalate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think he's ever really been that interested in getting better at talking off message so I wouldn't expect much movement there. Getting outwardly annoyed when he has to engage with what he sees as distractions from his message is just part of who he is.

edit: I'm talking more generally -- he may develop better messaging on this particular issue because it ties in with his messaging, but in general I think we can expect more outwardly annoyed Bernie and that's never going away. And yeah, to some, that's part of his charm -- the less polished, less focus tested answers can feel more authentic.
Have you seen Warren's answers on the same questions? I almost feel like she'll outclass him at the debate stage.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Should I be having panic attacks about India and Pakistan, or should I just look away from ERA for a bit and distract myself?
The sooner the nukes start to rain, the sooner we're off this horror show ride.

Also, both sides are blustering about it, probably the equivalent of us bombing the Syrian airfield.
 
Jan 15, 2019
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Bernie was fucking terrible tonight. Whatever he may have had in 2016 he has no longer. Almost embarassing to watch.
"The left eats itself" is a popular phrase and in this case, Bernie ate himself. He greatly shifted the window in regard to what dem voters can expect candidates to advocate for and commit to. People sort of marveled at him in 2015 for going up against 90's triangulation type policies and saying things that a lot of voters had clearly wanted to hear for a long time, but fast forward three years and now voters are like "Yeah, but how about reparations?"

He's basically being flanked from the left by a voterbase he's responsible for activating.
 
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