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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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Klobuchar is a complete non-starter anyway for her total wuss "I wouldn't have killed the voting requirements for the judiciary and I wouldn't want to kill the filibuster in general" bullshit stance.
If you're not willing to kill the filibuster to shove a bunch of important shit through in the two years that you have (ideally) the executive and both branches of Congress, get the fuck outta here.
It really is Kamala who is going to win this thing unless Biden can play spoiler. She's the only one running who seems to have some concept of where the party is going and what it wants.
If you're not willing to kill the filibuster to shove a bunch of important shit through in the two years that you have (ideally) the executive and both branches of Congress, get the fuck outta here.
It really is Kamala who is going to win this thing unless Biden can play spoiler. She's the only one running who seems to have some concept of where the party is going and what it wants.
Seems like that rehearsed answer is working pretty well. Mpr this morning brought it up, gave her answer, and that was it.
NBC News: Lawmakers reach deal to avert shutdown with fence funding but no money for border wall
The White House didn't comment on the agreement and Trump said at the rally, "We probably have some good news but who knows."
The details of the deal, according to multiple sources, were as follows:
- $1.375 billion for border barrier enhancements like steel slats and other "existing technologies," but no concrete wall
- The money would fund about 55 miles of new barrier
- Geographic restrictions on where the new fencing could built, likely limited to the Rio Grand Valley sector of the border
- DHS would receive $1.7 billion in new funding for border security that could include technology at ports of entry, additional customs officers and humanitarian aid
- No cap on the number of beds for enforcing immigration laws in the country's interior
- Funding for approximately 40,520 detention beds for detained immigrants
Top Democratic negotiators Rep. Nita Lowey of New York and Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont met behind closed doors with their Republican counterparts, Rep. Kay Granger of Texas and Shelby.
I think I'll take an obviously canned whatever response to scandals this cycle vs last time where Hillary, after two years, seemed completely bewildered and unprepared every time she was asked about it. Like still blows my mind how they just seemed completely uninterested in coming up with anything
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probably also ain't gonna help if people go into circular firing squads over dumb shit on social media again, like how a now Facebook ex-friend just called Harris "black Hillary" because she went on the Breakfast Club and said she inhaled about a minute after explicitly calling for legalization
God I hope there was a bunch of NM license plates on the South Side tonight cause that's a depressingly large number.
That shit is definitely going to happen again.
(I have very little actual hope for the future.)
I think what her angle might be here is that almost everyone else is running on the "how do you do fellow socialists" platform to the point where they are going to drown each other out. If Biden doesn't run I don't think there's really anyone who is taking the "yes I'm the moderate, let's all work together and shake hands", but yeah gunning for like second at best seems sort of like a weird strategy. I guess maybe Booker is doing that too but I can't tell if he's intentionally doing that or if he's really actually trying to move left just doing it badly
I'm seeing some talk of "can Beto flip as Senator/Prez candidate" while just THREATENING the lone GOP EV Battery is enough of a win, really.
Its the pair-of-fours that they've been dealt now. ALL IN.
Voters (relatively) rebeled against shit-head ignoring of referendums recently and state-level GOP fuckery in general and they have a Dem congresscritter for now. We'll see.
The detention bed funding number is down by about 10,000 from last year.
I'm not too happy with this deal but that's the silver lining.
They apparently got some humanitarian aid down there as well
I can't tell from the wording if that's specifically earmarked for humanitarian aid or is just general funding which the DHS might use for humanitarian aid if they want.
fun fact - if the Democratic nominee in 2020 flipped Texas (and every state closer than it came along), the biggest state the GOP would win would be Indiana
Wikipedia tells me that the tariff rate was 47% and Grover Cleveland was trying to get it down to 40%. Also they were still on the gold standard.
Yashar Ali @yashar
Vanity Fair is said to be working on an extensive profile of @BetoORourke
Manu Raju @mkraju
Beto tells @jeffzeleny a 2020 decision will come before month's end.
Vanity Fair is said to be working on an extensive profile of @BetoORourke
Jennifer Epstein @jeneps
Annie Leibowitz was in El Paso tonight shooting Beto O'Rourke (and the rest of the anti-Trump march)
Manu Raju @mkraju
Beto tells @jeffzeleny a 2020 decision will come before month's end.
On February 28, 2019, Beto O'Rourke announced that 2020 would still come after 2019 as originally planned.
Bernie still hasn't officially announced either
Tbh I have no idea what'll happen if he doesn't actually go through with it. I think it shakes things up a bit more than Biden not running
Tbh I have no idea what'll happen if he doesn't actually go through with it. I think it shakes things up a bit more than Biden not running
Beto's running for the VP spot at this point if he does jump in.
The question is whether having Beto in the race helps Bernie by splitting the "normal" Democratic vote or hurts him by stealing away young voters. Nobody actually seems very excited about having a moderate though.
The question is whether having Beto in the race helps Bernie by splitting the "normal" Democratic vote or hurts him by stealing away young voters. Nobody actually seems very excited about having a moderate though.
— Maddow has always clearly been kind and friendly to Klobuchar. She's the only reason any of us actually know who she is to begin with. No excuse for Rach not to go hard, though.
— I think her instinct to wait out the controversy around her staff abuse is the correct one, if not the one we want. It just doesn't move the needle against her like it would for others because her image has been so pristine and friendly.
— all that said, right now her main play is VP to soften up a Biden or Bernie or Sherrod run. If Warren, Gillibrand, or Harris advances, she's out.
— I think her instinct to wait out the controversy around her staff abuse is the correct one, if not the one we want. It just doesn't move the needle against her like it would for others because her image has been so pristine and friendly.
— all that said, right now her main play is VP to soften up a Biden or Bernie or Sherrod run. If Warren, Gillibrand, or Harris advances, she's out.
Are...are we not supposed to hold people to standards because one shit bag refuses to adhere to them?
Yeah, his complaint is the same as mine - all these people getting (deservingly) called out for their shit, meanwhile the guy in the fucking White Hose is rarely to never taken to task for his shit, at least not on the same level of all these people who don't have a fraction of his power.
We're supposed to hold everybody to standards or nobody. The current behavior is that "responsible" politicians get hounded for days if they misspeak but Republicans can be overt Nazis and it's not news because that's just how they are.
I want to be mad about the stupid compromise deal that seems to get nothing for the Democrats, but
Hannity is shitting on the deal, as are other Republicans
Once President Coulter comes out against it this deal is as good as dead anyway
Hannity is shitting on the deal, as are other Republicans
Once President Coulter comes out against it this deal is as good as dead anyway
Right, which is my point. Republicans have no standards, and can get away with anything because they've successfully demonized democrats so throughly that their base would rather vote for a child rapist than a democrat, because the democrat is the greater evil. Just because people let trump get away with everything doesn't mean we get to get away with everything. Trump bragged about being able to kill someone on 5th avenue and still win, and he still won. Hillary called racists deplorable, and they never let that one go.
What...is your point?
The media has fundamentally abdicated their role in our democracy by choosing to ignore and normalize great evil. Thats the point.
I guess my point is that I understand what's going on, and most people just want to whine about how they can't get away with things other people do. Oh well.
We'd actually they be just as hard on GOP as they are us but whatever.
Miss the point entirely.
Trump's racist or stupid comments are noted.
His base doesn't care though, so there's nothing to sustain a story.
Instead the story ends up being the bajillionth piece on how Trump voters are unwavering.
His base doesn't care though, so there's nothing to sustain a story.
Instead the story ends up being the bajillionth piece on how Trump voters are unwavering.
One of the first episodes of the Murphy Brown reboot had this exact plot.
If your theory of what's going on is that you're superior to most people maybe you don't know what's going on
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