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US PoliERA 2019 |OT4| Folded like a DOG
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And his income bracket, donates that much to charity that they write off on their tax sheets. And Bernie Sanders has been vocal in that he does not believe that charitable donations are a solution to any problem, he believes that they are a failure of the system.
Putting me on ignore for... posting stats and making a point?
Is this the level discourse is at?
Is this the level discourse is at?
It'd be hate-watching CNN and grifting only, really.
LBJ
Ford
Carter
HW Bush
It's not a clean kill but a wound that softens them up for a killing blow later.
So thank you, Mr. Weld, and good luck at getting 30%+ in the early states. :D
"The Horseshoe now demands that Fox News is now a Progressive news network. We thank you for your understanding."
Thank you for your attempts to elevate us. I regret only that we are wretches unwilling to hear the good word.
Well, you gotta do something in this age of supreme ignorance.
I literally posted a couple statistics and a chart. I get that "snark" is what plays here for e-points, but all I was doing is dismissing a bad faith argument before it even could begin.
I'm sorry that offends you, oh almighty arbiter of what is and is not allowable discourse. You can all go back to posting twitter feeds and talking about the very important issues of the day like... Bill Weld running for President.
If you're signaling that you put someone on ignore, you're doing it to grandstand btw, it's the rhetorical version of having a tantrum and going "I don't want to play with you anymore". If you're going to do it, just do it.
Anyway, enjoy your bubble.
Note that the tweet is in English unlike all the other account's tweets.
No I didn't, but I just did. Apparently he is in the range for his income for 2018 (and only 2018), but I still think it's quite stingy considering his beliefs. Especially considering 70% of his 2017 charitable contributions were a shady pass-through to pay his stepson, and without that, he only contributed 1% of his income to charity on income of over 1 mil. Same in 2016- only 1% on 1 mil. The 3.5% of 2018 is actually high for him!
Lol you didn't know that?
Where the hell is 2018's? And I can't say I'm surprised he donated fuck all to charity. I guess I should just expect to be disappointed on that front.
Assuming she's the only Dem candidate this cycle, Audrey Denney has outraised Doug LaMalfa by $166k, in comparison
You think I'm not going to bring it up or something? It's an absolutely pathetic amount.
For some reason you and some other posters seem to think charities are a scam. But only because it helps with your narrative. Even if your candidate is the one whose family ran a scam charity.
Bye.
This video is extremely relevant to this discussion
Not stressed enough in that video, but the point is, charities do nothing to solve wealth inequality. Instead of giving to charities, they should no longer lobby, and they should pay their fair share of taxes. Philanthropy is a con when these same people are doing all the bad things that maintain wealth inequality.
Not stressed enough in that video, but the point is, charities do nothing to solve wealth inequality. Instead of giving to charities, they should no longer lobby, and they should pay their fair share of taxes. Philanthropy is a con when these same people are doing all the bad things that maintain wealth inequality.
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— the "fuck pelosi" brigade from earlier today is stupid and insincere.
— they are only a half degree different than the "fuck Biden" brigade which creates dissonance for me because:
— Beto and Pete are only getting the remotest time of day because they are not women.
— notre dame burning is a historic disaster (and it's extremely ok to wonder if it was an attack).
— it's not what's in Bernie's taxes, it's what's not. There's a reason he waited 4 years to release 10 years. What's hiding back there?
— the Berniebros are so fuckin predictable. Showing your ass in every thread.
— expect more shenanigans when the report is released on thurs.
— y'all pay your taxes? I did. :(
— they are only a half degree different than the "fuck Biden" brigade which creates dissonance for me because:
— Beto and Pete are only getting the remotest time of day because they are not women.
— notre dame burning is a historic disaster (and it's extremely ok to wonder if it was an attack).
— it's not what's in Bernie's taxes, it's what's not. There's a reason he waited 4 years to release 10 years. What's hiding back there?
— the Berniebros are so fuckin predictable. Showing your ass in every thread.
— expect more shenanigans when the report is released on thurs.
— y'all pay your taxes? I did. :(
Yeah I don't understand why it took him a billion years to release them. Despite me hemming and hawing about him being a cheapass, there really isn't much to see there. It's a little suspect that it took so long when they aren't any more complicated than the average person with his income- hell probably even less complicated tbh. We do know $25k of his 2017 charitable contributions were to the scam though.
Nothing says "I'm interested in any form of debate" like blocking people who you don't like and pretending they don't exist.
Saying someone's doing well in a Fox town hall is tantamount to saying that someone's winning the Miss Turnip Queen contest.
We posted because the arguments are poor. The argument has never been about him giving to charity. It's like calling all of us who ride in fossil fueled cars hypocrites for wanting climate change tackled. Philanthropy is not a substitute for tackling wealth inequality through government just like an individual making their carbon foot print smaller a substitute for the government tackling climate change.
It's a non point.
I bet Maggie "the Trump Whisperer" will shit out a tweet shortly where she will explain what he really means.
Please contribute more, you seem to have a real solid handle on this.
"When Trump casually issues an UnTruth such as this he's preping his base for..."
Yeah I don't even disagree with that, and the "fuck oooofffff" stuff isn't useful.
It's just both predictable and suspect that the only (*only*) time Bernie types want to engage on anything is either to attack other candidates with similar positions or to defend him from correct and serious questioning.
Edit: the "we posted" turn of phrase is interesting since it suggests coordination, which would be darkly hilarious.
Now that Republicans have removed the tax incentive for most Americans to donate, he doesn't have to worry about that, I guess.
I don't know, justifying not donating to charity because the system is broken reminds me of Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs. No idea if Bernie justifies it that way, but it sounds like you do.
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It's tragic, but "historic" disasters are the untold places of the world that have been completely lost to history.
We've had hundreds of years to document and preserve Notre Dame, and the structure itself remains intact, if damaged. We know exactly how it was made, and how it can be restored.
It's always unfortunate when natural events destroy sites of historical significance, but we're a lot better equipped than our ancestors to make sure their existence is never truly lost.
A dark day for sure, but not the end for this historic structure.
When someone is flat out calling you a bernie bro all you can do is simply accept the title. I'll just let my argument speak for itself.
Whether the audience of 50 year old skidoo dealership owners is filling the actual audience or not is irrelevant if he is clearly getting engagement and making salient, incredibly easy to understand points.
The town hall is just to introduce him to a wider base of people. And none of the questions had Sanders skipping a beat. It was a good town hall for him.
The town hall is just to introduce him to a wider base of people. And none of the questions had Sanders skipping a beat. It was a good town hall for him.
I don't understand why someone posting a response that pointed out there's absolutely nothing exceptional in any sense about Bernie's charitable contributions and further explained why from Bernie's ideological position charities shouldn't even be that important, of all things, is what provokes what I can only describe as paranoia. Some people seriously treat posting on a message board like it's cloak-and-dagger espionage. It's just someone's opinion getting a completely sober, measured, calm and informed rebuttal. Literally it.
I'm sure we'll see some deep dives into their past careers. They didn't just pack it with Dems.... oh wait...
But...but...trump knows how to fight a fire better than anyone...
No one has the right to demand someone talk to them, unless that person is an elected public official.
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