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No?
Then don't backseat-mod.
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US PoliERA 2019 |OT4| Folded like a DOG
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No?
Then don't backseat-mod.
That's... Not back-seat modding. Or at least, not back-seat modding any more than anyone else does on Era, in any of its areas. Expressing a preference that people join-in with discussions rather than just post Twitter links that can be interpreted as stanning is just that - expressing a preference. Just like I'm expressing a preference when I ask that people provide context for their reaction posts, or when I ask that people quote Twitter text in a Spoiler tag so that if the tweet gets deleted, we know what's going on.
Or, tl;dr - asking more of people is not back-seat modding.
I hate you for making me remember that vile moment. When he went all in on hot white rage and my gut fucking sank as I realized they were just going to force him through and act like he was the victim after that heart breaking testimony.
Yes.The key word here being "demanding". Linkura explicitly framed her post in terms of what she would like:
Again - expressing a preference is not back-seat modding.
That's mincing words at what's a thinly veiled conspiratorial angle that "the damn Bernie stans" are disrupting a space where it's clearly unwelcome. It's parsing semantics when there's a clear and overt attempt to stifle and direct vitriol and the course of discussion to be about individual users choice of candidates which is plain to see. Come now, we can at least be honest about these things.
Oh, okay, so now we're inferring what Linkura meant, through some subjectively interpreted tone? Huh.
I read her post and saw none of what you described, so my argument here is honest with regards to how I approach that post. *shrugs*
This is what I was thinking when I read her post. I know there is a hostility between the various political groups, if those are the right words for it, on this website.
I think for sure there is a... dislike of Bernie stans, since they can be so dismissive of Bernie's flaws. But I read the post as more an irritation with stans of any sort, as well as the almost "drive-by posting" some people here do of just posting news without any original thoughts. It's useful on the one hand - it makes the thread a one-stop-shop for US political news - but on the other, we all read the papers, and most of us (all of us?) come here for discussion.
So, yeah, I read it as a call-out of sorts, but not of anyone specific. And, again, certainly not back-seat modding. *shrugs* :)
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I'm going to be pretty blunt here about my views on the impact of climate change and the ramifications for a lot of people.
We aren't going to fix anything in a near-enough timespan to avoid widespread, global catastrophes that lead to major mass migrations that will further lead to xenophobia resulting in hideously far-right right backlash against immigrants/refugees, and wars are going to be fought over it.
Waiving my lurker status here to drop my two cents (sorry regulars, I'd post more if I felt I had something meaningful to contribute as a foreigner).
I understand the appeal with Sanders and like a lot of his platform, but I'm struggling to wrap my mind around the appeal of Sanders when Warren is also in the race. She's just as progressive as he is, if not even more so, plus has a mountain of legislative BDE, works better with allies in DC, and is, frankly, a decade younger. If you're a staunch progressive, she clearly seems like the better choice in pretty much every aspect. The only point in Sanders' favour seems to be that he's seen as "anti-establishment." But... who gives a shit about that?
I understand the appeal with Sanders and like a lot of his platform, but I'm struggling to wrap my mind around the appeal of Sanders when Warren is also in the race. She's just as progressive as he is, if not even more so, plus has a mountain of legislative BDE, works better with allies in DC, and is, frankly, a decade younger. If you're a staunch progressive, she clearly seems like the better choice in pretty much every aspect. The only point in Sanders' favour seems to be that he's seen as "anti-establishment." But... who gives a shit about that?
What just happened here?
I think I'm going to go to the GoT thread for the evening.
EDIT: Why did I do that.
I think I'm going to go to the GoT thread for the evening.
EDIT: Why did I do that.
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If you're looking to avoid a disaster thread, that may not be a good idea lol.
There are differences. Sanders is still left of Warren ideologically (restoring prisoners' right to vote is the most recent example) and has stronger messaging on the morality of his policies. He also has a more consistent voting record and is less likely to take positions based on how well they poll. Warren on the other hand is a policy wonk (which is awesome) but wonkery isn't really something that drives most people to the polls. Bernie's populism strikes a chord with a lot of working class people and is probably why so many people like him.
Having said all that, Warren is still my #2 so I'd have no complaints about her winning the nomination.
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And for some perspective, here's Britannica's definition of Left-wing ideology:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/left
Clearly that's more descriptive of Sanders than Warren, so ideologically speaking, it's pretty easy to see why Sanders would appeal to leftists even with Warren in the race.
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Which is why I'm frustrated with Bernie, and everyone else, in politics not doing enough about this. I do know this won't get fixed unless people figure this shit out to passed congress via political means, which should have been a major priority decades ago. Instead it looks like people never broke this code for whatever reasons and we're going to all deal with the consequences of that failure.
I want them to try as hard as they can to get the most progressive bills passed congress to fix this same as you but I'm ok with them through traditional means. I'd love it were there another option to get more radical bills through but we don't live in that world where that's possible.
I expect the next Dem to declare a climate emergency and divert funding to energy and adaptation projects. Congress is a lost cause.
Might as well explore those expanded executive powers Trump's enjoyed.
No, because he still believes in "norms" (LOL)
Every other Dem, yes.
I think this under-estimates how well Warren has been doing on-the-road. This Time longform article illustrates how well she's connecting with voters through a mixture of policies that people can easily understand help them, and a casual bonhomie that endears her to people. I also think Warren is going to find it easier to push herself as the anti-Bernie as the campaign winds up - specific policy outlines, younger, and a woman. She can push all these differences as positives to various groups, whilst not going negative on Bernie.
As long as Warren continues to connect with people on a very human level, she will do well. I didn't mean to suggest that she has no appeal to voters, but it's very clear that most voters aren't motivated by policy alone, but framing of policy that can galvanize them. I think Warren has incredible potential but we can't disregard the very low level of intellectual curiosity of the average voter and I think it's something that Warren needs to consider when trying to make the case for her candidacy.
I wonder what they would say "is a Republican thing" as a contrast? I mean, there's lots of things that certainly are Republican things, but they're very much in the 'keep the quiet part quiet' bracket...
Turtleman Mitch will suddenly remember the legislative's constitutional mandate to act as a check on the executive branch at 12:01 on Inauguration Day.
The mistake was when you went to Olive Garden. For shame!
He can't do shit about it unless Dems lose both houses and another 15seats in the senate
Augghghghghghghgh, you're right.
Is there any hope at all for the debates to take the wind out of his sails?
Yes definitely. People looking at polls every single day are probably going to get pretty deflated by nothing changing until July, but July-January is where the major movement will happen. And that's still an 7 month window.
People who are showing distaste for the idea of Biden as the candidate are going to pivot to supporting him hard if it looks like it's down to him and Bernie if the other candidates don't look they're going to have enough traction to compete with him.
Guess its time to say the polls are rigged and the establishment is out to get him.
Dude has lost traction especially with Warren and Harris gaining in the polls.
How are Bernie's donations doing? Are his fans still doing multiple $1 donations to inflate his numbers?
Should've been a layup of a question for Bernie and he goes after polling methodology.
Easy answer is that this entire primary is about highlighting differences between him and Biden, and that his job is to ensure that people understand his policies and philosophies.
Bernie 2016 supporter here. Fuck this shit. This is what happens when you only listen to TYT and Kulinski. No different from Fox.
Might as well call this hyperbole: the thread. I understand we have our favored candidates, but when we talk about our non-favored candidates, why take things to 11 instantly?
Expected a sharp drop to start the day, as they catch up on reacting to the China/Middle East news.
Real test will be how it recovers this afternoon.
Lol, I remember the pizzas but not that they were cooked *with* his PS3 hahaha.
I remember him saying he'd "enjoy" a cheap bottle of wine by opening it and having like a shot of it once a day over a couple of weeks.
Yeah, you need to look at the % drops. It's down quite a bit but we're not in market crash territory yet.
Why would progressives choose Biden over Bernie? Aren't their projected strengths (outreach in swing states) the same? And I'd argue that Bernie has less baggage.
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