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Menelaus

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Okay, I'll bow to the relentless pressure.

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His Chasten cosplay is on POINT.
 

xenocide

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How long? And what's the next step to appeal? How many times can he appeal?

If this is the case I think it is, they went through a Federal Court, and now can appeal to the DC Circuit Court. If that fails, then they can appeal to the Supreme Court. Usually these cases drag out for months, but I believe the judge in this case immediately identified that's what they wanted and rebuked them for it while also speeding up the process as much as possible.
 

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For reference, there was ~500,000 US troops involved with the Gulf War.

You're not starting a war with 10,000 troops unless you're sending them to their death as a tripwire situation
 

Autodidact

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For reference, there was ~500,000 US troops involved with the Gulf War.

You're not starting a war with 10,000 troops unless you're sending them to their death as a tripwire situation
Right. Last week it was 120,000, and everyone and their mother said that number wouldn't be enough for anything, especially a ground invasion.

10,000 - not even 10,000; "up to" 10,000 - is definitely not enough.
 

thuway

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If this is the case I think it is, they went through a Federal Court, and now can appeal to the DC Circuit Court. If that fails, then they can appeal to the Supreme Court. Usually these cases drag out for months, but I believe the judge in this case immediately identified that's what they wanted and rebuked them for it while also speeding up the process as much as possible.
Can an appeal be rejected and a hearing stand?
 

JustinP

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The DCCC is run by incumbents. Of course they're interested in policies that are self-preservationist in nature.
"Actually, it's good that they compromise the core beliefs of the party to protect their seat from possible primary challengers that might better reflect the party's values. Don't you understand strategy?"
 
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am i the dumb one here when i see polls about trump vs __________ in GE in 2020 in 2019 and want to scream from the roof tops "IT'S NOT EVEN PRIMARY SEASON OR EVEN 2020 YET, STFU with the doom and gloom and stuff!

My god there's planning ahead and then there's whatever the hell is going on in progressive circles to make them think Biden will be the nom
 

Ogodei

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Note the plus six against Harris, who usually fares better with him. Trump's really bringing out the racism in Florida in a big way.
 

Kusagari

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If you're expecting a win in FL after 18 then I don't know why.

The state is clearly lean R now, more than it probably was a decade ago.
 

TheHunter

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"Why do we continue to suffer?" says Florida man after voting GOP the past 4 elections.
 

Aaron

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Florida needs a massive push for voter registration.

Throwing away a state that close is foolish. Democrats still won a statewide election (would have been two but for Broward County) and a majority of the Congressional vote.
 

XMonkey

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the judges in these financial records cases refusing to issue a stay means that the companies have to comply with the House subpoena and hand over the records right? If they issued a stay then they wouldn't necessarily have to while Trump's lawyers work an appeal?
 

DinosaurusRex

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the judges in these financial records cases refusing to issue a stay means that the companies have to comply with the House subpoena and hand over the records right? If they issued a stay then they wouldn't necessarily have to while Trump's lawyers work an appeal?
I'm guessing they could appeal and the next judge up could issue the stay. But not sure how quickly the appeal would be heard or if the companies would have already complied by then. I'm not sure who the litigants are. The companies may want to provide the info and be done with it.
 

Kusagari

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Dems should still campaign there, just because of how close it will always be, but you should never expect a win at this point.

I've commented before on the problem being that FL's white voters have increasingly started voting more in line with the rest of the South and minorities, besides Cubans who are voting Republican, just don't turn out in significant enough numbers to counter it in the margins.
 
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Florida is tight AF. Don't throw us away quite yet, we're a weird fucking place, but we are about as swing as you can get in this polarized country
 

devSin

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"Why do we continue to suffer?" says Florida man after voting GOP the past 4 elections.
"He's hurting the wrong people!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the judges in these financial records cases refusing to issue a stay means that the companies have to comply with the House subpoena and hand over the records right? If they issued a stay then they wouldn't necessarily have to while Trump's lawyers work an appeal?
I imagine there's some quirk of process where because they know he's going to appeal they can't or won't comply.

They can't sit on an appeal forever after notice of intent. The appeal for the first case was filed the next morning, and there will probably be one tomorrow as well.
 
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