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US PoliERA 2019 |OT4| Sum Up the Last 400 Pages in 4

Oct 28, 2017
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Saying someone's doing well in a Fox town hall is tantamount to saying that someone's winning the Miss Turnip Queen contest.
Considering that Fox News' gambit on their Medicare For All question backfired, I'd say it went pretty well. And I bet the Miss turnip Queen contest is pretty competitive. Turnips are serious business
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's tragic, but "historic" disasters are the untold places of the world that have been completely lost to history.

We've had hundreds of years to document and preserve Notre Dame, and the structure itself remains intact, if damaged. We know exactly how it was made, and how it can be restored.

It's always unfortunate when natural events destroy sites of historical significance, but we're a lot better equipped than our ancestors to make sure their existence is never truly lost.

A dark day for sure, but not the end for this historic structure.
This isn’t really additive nuance and not sure what your point is.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Idiots and grifters giving $92k to someone who may plead guilty and resign by September
In other words, Republicans.

This isn’t really additive nuance and not sure what your point is.
It's muddled because it basically ended up as dithering while trying to decide if I wanted to engage in Bernie discussion. It spun out of your remark, but wasn't truly meant to be a direct response to it, sorry.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They had enough common sense to reverse this shit-show quickly. I guess they are dropping the poor guy off tonight in Phoenix. These fascists are in overdrive to cause as much pain and chaos before the court cases start stacking up
I didn't read the last few paragraphs after being completely disgusted by most of it, so I missed that. Thank fucking god.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I actually I wish more DEM candidates would go on Fox News. The baseline D policy positions are generally popular and it's hard for conservative media to turn DEMs into caricatures if Fox News viewers can see them first hand. Perhaps the Fox News hosts may try to spike the punch, but this townhall is an example where it can backfire on them. The only soundbite that's going to come from this townhall is that the crowd cheered for Medicare For All. Not sure that's the soundbite Fox was looking for and it should strike fear into Republicans about the healthcare debate in 2020.

Btw, I'm loving me some Gay Obama on Maddow now. Not a hard-hitting interview, but at least she's asking some questions I haven't heard anyone ask yet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I actually I wish more DEM candidates would go on Fox News. The baseline D policy positions are generally popular and it's hard for conservative media to turn DEMs into caricatures if Fox News viewers can see them first hand. Perhaps the Fox News hosts may try to spike the punch, but this townhall is an example where it can backfire on them. The only soundbite that's going to come from this townhall is that the crowd cheered for Medicare For All. Not sure that's the soundbite Fox was looking for and it should strike fear into Republicans about the healthcare debate in 2020.

Btw, I'm loving me some Gay Obama on Maddow now. Not a hard-hitting interview, but at least she's asking some questions I haven't heard anyone ask yet.
I was thinking on the Fox thing. I think it’s all about the crowd they pick. I guarantee the next crowd will be more like the first questioner.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think you have to go on Fox News because these people NEVER get our side of the story. And if you don't present it, they won't ever hear it. I know they twist it and they lie and they are shit, but their poor attempt to misrepresent popular policy is way harder with the popular policy there talking.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think you have to go on Fox News because these people NEVER get our side of the story. And if you don't present it, they won't ever hear it. I know they twist it and they lie and they are shit, but their poor attempt to misrepresent popular policy is way harder with the popular policy there talking.
A town hall probably the best way to go about it. A primary debate would just be dems hammering on dems.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I think you have to go on Fox News because these people NEVER get our side of the story. And if you don't present it, they won't ever hear it. I know they twist it and they lie and they are shit, but their poor attempt to misrepresent popular policy is way harder with the popular policy there talking.
Imagine if you have good speakers on the DEM side like Kamala, Buttigieg, and Beto go on Fox News semi-regularly, I guarantee you'll get a segment of their audience swoon for them. All three of them can make the progressive agenda/values sound like "common sense". I think it would definitely help on the margins. It also would be great if Fox News at some point found it in their financial interest to book Democrats on their shows. Whether it's due to rating boosts or an increased pool of advertisers.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine if you have good speakers on the DEM side like Kamala, Buttigieg, and Beto go on Fox News semi-regularly, I guarantee you'll get a segment of their audience swoon for them. All three of them can make the progressive agenda/values sound like "common sense". I think it would definitely help on the margins. It also would be great if Fox News at some point found it in their financial interest to book Democrats on their shows. Whether it's due to rating boosts or an increased pool of advertisers.
It is in their financial interest to do so. They intentionally make less money than they could because it is an ideological battle
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Oh he dead as fuck in 2020
The only reason he (barely) held on in 2018 was the major backlash against him as he was exposed nationally in a way he never had been before only happened in about the last month of the campaign. If it happened earlier he would be out on his ass.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Dnc still saying no primary debates on fox? I disagree with that. It's mainly worthless but even if there are a few persuadable weirdos watching fox it's worth doing.
 
I wonder if we're ahead of last go around on $$$ by this time or if the RNCC and the like haven't dumped their (Adelman's/Putin's) warchest yet. Glad to see some enemy territory Dems getting good reserves though.

Why would the Pope debate the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving?
Bannon seems to hate the Pope for his anti-income disparity/pro-globalism behavior. News orgainizations seem to have room temperature IQs to let Olde Ocelot talk his way onto their work to spew subversive antiestablishmentarianism and white supremacy.