Obama sucked at these early on. Thought Beto has been fine for the most part (still catching up, about ~20 min behind live).
Really not seeing anyone moving much outside of Delaney getting 0% in the polls.
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US PoliERA 2019 |OT5| She's got a plan for that, now sashay away
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Obama sucked at these early on. Thought Beto has been fine for the most part (still catching up, about ~20 min behind live).
Really not seeing anyone moving much outside of Delaney getting 0% in the polls.
Booker was the standout for me, Castro up there too. Warren did well, but didn't totally stand out. She's very genuine when she speaks and I think she got that across well. Beto looked like a fish out of water, this is not his strong suit.
De Blasio is an ass. Tim Ryan sucks. So does Chuck Todd with his obsession over gun confiscation.
De Blasio is an ass. Tim Ryan sucks. So does Chuck Todd with his obsession over gun confiscation.
Thoughts:
- Warren gave an excellent final answer but I'll agree she kind of vanished in the middle and I'm a bit scared that her Medicare for all position will hurt her even if it's the morally right position.
- Castro needs to drop out and run for Senate. He'd be a fantastic candidate.
- I usually like Beto but he didn't do well tonight. Castro also had it in for him?
- Booker did well tonight.
- Klobaucher did fine but didn't blow me away. She'd probably be a fine president though.
- Lol fuck Delaney. Also didn't like him regurgitating some right-wing talking points.
- Ryan tried but meh. Didn't like him regurgitating some right-wing talking points. I still like the man but he's not going anywhere.
- LOL at the MSNBC analysts dunking on DeBlasio. I thought a few of his responses were good but yeah I get why a lot of people are pissed at him.
- Inslee would be good at the EPA.
- Whatever at Tulsi.
Watching this NBC post debate thing, it's interesting
The black girl says Beto is pandering speaking Spanish, and the Hispanic girl moderator is like, "uh well my mom was texting me about how amazing it was to hear fluent Spanish at a debate for US president!" And how inclusive it felt
Just saying we should consider how it feels for a primarily Spanish-speaking audience
The black girl says Beto is pandering speaking Spanish, and the Hispanic girl moderator is like, "uh well my mom was texting me about how amazing it was to hear fluent Spanish at a debate for US president!" And how inclusive it felt
Just saying we should consider how it feels for a primarily Spanish-speaking audience
A scientist should run the EPA. Inslee as Energy Secretary however, is a good choice.
I think people were saying his Spanish was the most fluent.
They were saying it seemed like pandering but I disagree.
Still it was a bad night for Beto.
I would agree if their spanish wasnt so lackluster, especially Booker who sounded like a defective robot
As a Hispanic whose parents both primarily speak Spanish and their English isn't great, his Spanish was fine. Accented but fine and pretty eloquent.
I did felt eerily suspicious that they were though Castro's statement for how far we come at the end was a very good point.
It was good. I think it's like one of those things where white people have higher "standards" for what is "authentic" from other cultures than the people literally from those cultures do out of a weird misplaced elitism
Van Jones on CNN praising Warren as "Elizabeth Warren looks like a professor and the rest of the candidates are grad students." and praising Castro for "having a Texas Takedown on Beto."
Edit: now he's praising Klob for connecting to real people
Edit: now he's praising Klob for connecting to real people
He's doing it for the same reason that Buttigieg is trying to jump from mayor of South Bend to POTUS; he has nowhere else to go, really.
All the 0%ers joking on Twitter that "hurr now I have to learn Spanish too!!" (I'm looking at you Crystals and Mr. 4chan Yang) are pretty repugnant.
You should learn Spanish because Spanish speakers are an important (and huge!) section of the country you want to be president of, you nards.
You should learn Spanish because Spanish speakers are an important (and huge!) section of the country you want to be president of, you nards.
He sure wants something bigger. Guess he doesn't see much of a path to New York Governor any time soon while it's "occupied".
Beto needs to run it back in 2024... for Senate.
After tonight I've lost faith in his VP capability.
I think Warren is getting dusted for her answers in the second half but if Beto gave her answer, it would be listed as a mad success for him. She was untouchable in the first half. Her second half answers weren't as great because they were fucking dumb af Chuck Todd bullshit.
Booker - Gohan
Castro - Goku
Warren - Vegeta
De Blasio - Android 18
Inslee - Goten
Beto - Yamcha
Tulsi - Chi Chi
Klobuchar - Bulma
Ryan - Chiaotzu
Delaney - Mr. Satan
Castro - Goku
Warren - Vegeta
De Blasio - Android 18
Inslee - Goten
Beto - Yamcha
Tulsi - Chi Chi
Klobuchar - Bulma
Ryan - Chiaotzu
Delaney - Mr. Satan
They just admitted in the last minute that their predictions of Biden getting beat up in this debate night were way wrong. The turnaround time on these is getting shorter and shorter.
Warren was probably the best overall performance of the night, and was as good if not better than I expected. But I was personally most impressed by Castro who was WAY better than I ever thought he'd be. Booker was good too, though I didn't really like his JCPOA answer. Tbh I think everyone had at least one good moment at some point in the night, even Delaney and Tulsi (whose clowning on Ryan should be immediately disqualifying for him even he was otherwise fine). I think Inslee might have been most disappointing to me; his performance wasn't bad, but as one of the candidates I'm most interested in on paper he did not make much of an impression.
de Blasio...I don't know, I'm kinda shocked by everything about his showing. But most especially that he went hard on Beto (which wasn't a bad thing imo) so early. Did not expect the first Dem-on-Dem hit to come from de Blasio vs. Beto (or for Delany of all people to come to Beto's rescue).
Speaking of whom, Beto has clearly honed his stump answers very well, but is either not ready for or just not good in debate settings. He was clearly surprised by de Blasio coming after him too and just had no response to him. He fared a little better against Castro, but that first de Blasio interaction made him look weak. He's gotta run some more debate drills over the next month, because you just cannot shirk away from rebuttals like that.
I think his was better than Booker and Castro. But my rule of thumb is, if I can understand it, it's probably not that great lol.
Booker's reaction was absolutely amazing though
de Blasio...I don't know, I'm kinda shocked by everything about his showing. But most especially that he went hard on Beto (which wasn't a bad thing imo) so early. Did not expect the first Dem-on-Dem hit to come from de Blasio vs. Beto (or for Delany of all people to come to Beto's rescue).
Speaking of whom, Beto has clearly honed his stump answers very well, but is either not ready for or just not good in debate settings. He was clearly surprised by de Blasio coming after him too and just had no response to him. He fared a little better against Castro, but that first de Blasio interaction made him look weak. He's gotta run some more debate drills over the next month, because you just cannot shirk away from rebuttals like that.
I think his was better than Booker and Castro. But my rule of thumb is, if I can understand it, it's probably not that great lol.
Booker's reaction was absolutely amazing though
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The numbers are out there, after 9:33 Eastern she did not speak until the second half where she had her two Chuck Todd questions. She had a real good 30 minutes, but two not so good answers to dumb questions and nothing else in the next 90 minutes does not make for a good performance
Booker addressing his look at beto "he threw down the gauntlet...I'm conversational but nowhere near as fluent"
He can run again for Senate or even POTUS at some point, but he's got to move upward. Unless he's going to run for Governor in TX and win it, he really needs to stick around for as long as possible in this race and score some sort of position in the next admin.
He still has more options than Buttigieg, who can't do anything really in IN politics going forward.
My takeaway is.. there's a big difference between a democratic debate and a republican debate.
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