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US PoliERA 2019 |OT5| She's got a plan for that, now sashay away
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https://amp.businessinsider.com/steny-hoyer-freshman-democrats-ilhan-omar-israel-aipac-2019-3
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hits-out-at-everyone-who-called-his-tweets-racist
I just imagined this, right?
"It was wrong to give Trump an easy layup." I promise you, it will not hurt to type that.
It was great. Now I hope they have a meeting with Trump to show unity and hash out their differences.
Sorry I'm still on Rapinoe talking points.
Thank you. The two streams I saw just died as soon as it was over.
Pelosi isn't going to suddenly support impeachment now and it's going to make people mad again. So don't get your hopes up.
But please please Pelosi don't fucking say something to make it worse.
But please please Pelosi don't fucking say something to make it worse.
Pelosi not being on camera or being unwilling to offer a full-throated attack on that shit head should be getting roasted by the national media.
Coward as always. More willing to attack Omar than she is Donald Trump. Absolutely gutless.
The progressives are right. It's going to take ousting pathetic people like Pelosi and members of the GOP to bring about real change in this country.
There will always be a moderate standing in the way or running interference for horrible people who share the same class and race as them.
Coward as always. More willing to attack Omar than she is Donald Trump. Absolutely gutless.
The progressives are right. It's going to take ousting pathetic people like Pelosi and members of the GOP to bring about real change in this country.
There will always be a moderate standing in the way or running interference for horrible people who share the same class and race as them.
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Mitt Romney @MittRomney
The president's comments were destructive, demeaning, and disunifying. The President of the United States has a unique and noble calling to unite the American people – of all different races, colors, and national origins. In that respect, the president failed badly.
People can disagree over politics and policy, but telling American citizens to go back to where they came from is over the line.
5:41 PM - Jul 15, 2019
The president's comments were destructive, demeaning, and disunifying. The President of the United States has a unique and noble calling to unite the American people – of all different races, colors, and national origins. In that respect, the president failed badly.
People can disagree over politics and policy, but telling American citizens to go back to where they came from is over the line.
5:41 PM - Jul 15, 2019
Purity and Power are mutually exclusive in politics.
I will never understand people for whom losing every battle is preferable to actual progress.
No, if AOC was Speaker, she'd totally magically convince Collin Peterson to embrace socialism.
Trump could get away with the racism if he hadn't embraced GOP economic policy. But well, he's stupid and didn't listen to Bannon.
David Perdue:
Is a golf buddy:
Frank Thorp V @frankthorp
Reporter: There are some people who have called the President's comments racist...
PERDUE: "Well, that's outrageous, of course they're not racist..."
5:48 PM - Jul 15, 2019
Reporter: There are some people who have called the President's comments racist...
PERDUE: "Well, that's outrageous, of course they're not racist..."
5:48 PM - Jul 15, 2019
Is a golf buddy:
David Nakamura @DavidNakamura
WH says Trump played golf today with Senators Lindsey Graham (SC), Rand Paul (KY), and David Perdue (GA).
4:19 PM - Jul 13, 2019
WH says Trump played golf today with Senators Lindsey Graham (SC), Rand Paul (KY), and David Perdue (GA).
4:19 PM - Jul 13, 2019
I'm not sure where you are seeing progress over the old ways of doing things. This is what compromise has wrought on this country.
You call it purity tests to obtain power. I see the powerful doing nothing to protect the union. If you have no principles but outside of fundraising we are well beyond a functioning opposition party. The rightward, racist movement of this country is no coincidence. The pragmatism and third-way movement has moved the polarity of this country to a point where the current state has become acceptable to you.
The moderates have been complacent and either need to be spurred to take action or voted the fuck out.
The most important piece of article today - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/...rss&partner=rss&smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytpolitics
No shit, I saw "Barron" at first and cackled because I thought we had a prodigy on our hands.
This is probably attributing too much thinking to Trump but it would square with the reports that he's trying to juice evangelical turnout.
Purity IS power to the opposition.
"Losing"
Kirb, we've been losing nationally and locally for a decade.
Your solution is to just keep doing the same thing.
I don't think Trump loses a single voter due to his attacks. Mostly because Media has no idea how to cover his blatant lies and racist attacks.
Because we got the ACA passed under Obama, relying heavily on those conservative swing districts. Pelosi is deferential to those areas because they're the hardest areas for us to win election is and our majority is specifically dependent on them. Not as much as in '06/'08 in the House thankfully, but they're still there (see: Conor Lamb) but it's now overwhelmingly so in the Senate. If we get a President Warren/Harris/etc. and the Senate, our 50th Senator might be Joe Manchin because we lost so many seats that we can no longer win back over the past decade due to the nationalization of politics.
The Union is going to have issues because the Senate is going to break it eventually. The principle here is not "fundraising" it is winning elections because they're what gives you power. Pragmatism gets shit done. AOC leveraging a half-hispanic district and specifically targeting Hispanic voters rather than just a lefty ideological econ message was "pragmatism." AOC could not win an election in all 435 house districts, nor could she win an election in every House district the Dems currently hold. Yes, politics IS a game, in the sense that we hold an electoral competition to decide who to give power to. And because it's a game, you need to play that fucking game.
Not where I live. My area's been grinding and chipping away for a quarter century at the GOP and we're about to go full blue state.
And we started losing elections the moment Obama got elected nationally. You know, the same damn thing that happens to every goddamn President's party the moment they take office, because Negative Enthusiasm really does rule all for the same reason clickbait works. But of course you and others are going to keep pretending this phenomenon isn't a thing, because blaming it on a person or leadership allows you to pretend that it's something that could possibly be changed if WE ONLY DID *thing that aligns with pre-existing political views* instead of acknowledging its a structural pattern in US politics.
And your wording is telling. You say "opposition." The goal is not to be a permanent opposition party!
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He won't lose any but people who sat out 2016 going "oh he won't be that bad" or "oh he'll calm down" or "oh it's exaggerated" now have tons of evidence to the contrary.
At least several outlets actually called his shit racist today.
David Wright @DavidWright_CNN
John Delaney lent his campaign an additional $7.75 million in Q2 of 2019 -- he has now loaned/contributed a total of just over $24 million to his 2020 bid. His campaign *raised* just under $285,000 in the quarter. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/2020-election-campaign-fundraising/index.html …
https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1150887239334993922
5:57 PM - Jul 15, 2019
John Delaney lent his campaign an additional $7.75 million in Q2 of 2019 -- he has now loaned/contributed a total of just over $24 million to his 2020 bid. His campaign *raised* just under $285,000 in the quarter. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/2020-election-campaign-fundraising/index.html …
https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1150887239334993922
5:57 PM - Jul 15, 2019
Those people mostly showed up in 2018 anyway? I don't think 2018 people are staying back in 2020.
I agree, but I think it drives more minority voters out to vote this time than in 2016.
I know that, it's a joke. The point is that the Nazis offered the white deseriables in Germany carrots along with hate toward an other.
Oh, I was referring to what you ate a week ban for. We can pick this up when you return, if you care to.
I have some family that voted for him using those same excuses. They won't make that mistake again.
FUCKING HOLY SHIT
WTF
How can anyone read this and stay cool
This is the grossest fucking shit man
It wouldn't hurt to type that, but I ain't gonna type that, because it's not me boo boo.
Y'all really need to get this, because we see it play out every other week. Donald Trump and his Butthurt Republican Crew will come down on any side of an argument they perceive as advantageous to them. And you have almost no control over this. We've seen this at work! When it comes to Ilhan Omar suddenly Republicans care about antisemitism? When it comes to AOC suddenly Republicans care about defending Nancy Pelosi's honor? My big, black, supple twerkin ass!
I get being cautious of what you say, but Republicans operate on a level of bad faith so extreme at this point that it's fundamentally useless to even try to put any stock into it. Fuck them. I mean it's that simple at this point.
So if I have a criticism that I feel is valid, or a praise that I feel is valid, I'm going to say it. Because I don't give a shit about what Trump thinks or is going to say about it. Fuck what Trump thinks or says. I said what Isaid. Becaue Trump has demonstrated, on countless occasions, that he's going to do what he wants regardless of whether or you give him an "excuse" or a "layup."
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If we ever have power again, some will have to stand trial for this evil.
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