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Giving $30 million when you are a billionaire is the bare minimum
Thats good. Its not enough.
Giving $30 million when you are a billionaire is the bare minimum
Thats good. Its not enough.
Yeah, I'm just thinking now about one of Walt Disney's kids who gave an interview recently where she talked about all the charity work she's done and money she's given away, and how she tries to reconcile that with the fact that she still has a ton of money. She said part of her wanted to give it all away right when she got it, but if she had she would have given less money than she has now after investing it and making more money.
Like yeah, the fact that people exist who are that ungodly rich is a problem, but the people themselves? I'm not about to say "poor them" because obviously they're not, but if they do good things with their money, support liberal causes etc what else can they do? Give away everything until they're penniless? For most Americans there's always some degree of selfishness in what money and property we hold onto.
Short-sighted. Plenty spend more than $30 million. Some spend billions more than they have in the bank over a life-time because of how money makes money. That's likely more good done, depending on the investment, than you'll ever do over several lifetimes. The much bigger problem than "billionaires not spending 'enough' to help others" is how wealth begets wealth and how inaccessible that is to others.Thats good. Its not enough.
Giving $30 million when you are a billionaire is the bare minimum tho.
Gotta love the irony of people complaining about billionaires not giving enough money away on a video game enthusiast forum.I'm expecting everyone to empty out their bank accounts into the streets now!
Hell, the Gates Foundation is required to spend all of its resources (currently at ~50 billion) within twenty years of Bill and Melinda's deaths, but I guess they're still bad people because they have money in the bank today.
It's amazing that for so many people "Gains Through Trade" isn't a concept and in its place "It's not enough that I should succeed, others must fail" is in its place. The economy is not a zero-sum game. The "billionaires are inherently evil" crap is petty jealousy attempting to be laundered via moralizing.Nobody can earn a billion dollars. You become a billionaire by exploiting others. I agree that a bank account balance doesn't make someone good or bad... unless they're a billionaire.
So because I don't believe in public flogging for billionaires I want people to die of starvation. K.
We could easily combine the two by pointing out Bernie is a millionaire who gives almost nothing to charity and once supported charter schools if that would help. 😛I'm not sure I like this conversation much better than litigating the 2016 primary
Saying billionaires should exist goes right along with saying that death from preventable starvation and disease should exist.
It's just two sides of the same coin.
Uncap FICA and bring back the 90% top marginal tax rate.
Tax (non retirement) capital gains as income.
EVERY BILLIONAIRE IS A POLICY FAILURE
Not even being willing to consider they have done something "bad" to accumulate such an absurd level of wealth is a long way from asking for "public flogging".So because I don't believe in public flogging for billionaires I want people to die of starvation. K.
Millionaires are okay though right?
If you write a best selling book you can be a millionaire too.
I've tried this. It's not that easy.Millionaires are okay though right?
If you write a best selling book you can be a millionaire too.
Oh wow completely earnestly doing the "you complain about society and yet you participate in it interesting" meme. Amazing.Gotta love the irony of people complaining about billionaires not giving enough money away on a video game enthusiast forum.
Maybe instead of buying your third limited edition Nintendo Switch you should give $300 to your local soup kitchen hmmmmm? Guess you're not a good person.
Finally, some pushback. I was getting so sick of the blue state dem narrative. Like, even if he (very likely) doesn't win the primary, this conversation is toxic.
lol? it's the logical extreme of the "being a billionaire is immoral" argument.Oh wow completely earnestly doing the "you complain about society and yet you participate in it interesting" meme. Amazing.
It's self-fulfilling prophecy. The senate talk was a kneecap out the gate and likely GOP poison. It's also a kneecap to any potential momentum.She's got a point in the sense that Beto at the top of the ticket would likely help whoever's running for Senate more than just say, Biden running at the top and Beto downballot, I think the problem is more that Beto's not gaining any traction in the primary. Like "But if Beto wins the primary he helps our chances" right but that's not happening.
Finally, some pushback. I was getting so sick of the blue state dem narrative. Like, even if he (very likely) doesn't win the primary, this conversation is toxic.
We could easily combine the two by pointing out Bernie is a millionaire who gives almost nothing to charity and once supported charter schools if that would help. 😛
Good to see. I'm looking forward to seeing how Beto re-enters the campaign after the shooting. I'm hoping he brings the fire that we saw in the very early days afterwards.
We gave up after a few years of no-showing. Joaquin was talking about running earlier this cycle and decided not to, but at least he's a rep.
Aren't they pretty clear they are a socialist outlet with an ideology?
You can still get people becoming Billionaires with a 90% top marginal rate! Like, thaSaying billionaires should exist goes right along with saying that death from preventable starvation and disease should exist.
It's just two sides of the same coin.
Uncap FICA and bring back the 90% top marginal tax rate.
Tax (non retirement) capital gains as income.
EVERY BILLIONAIRE IS A POLICY FAILURE
Why the hell are so many alts getting through with instant access? Seriously, this shit is ridiculous.Oh wow completely earnestly doing the "you complain about society and yet you participate in it interesting" meme. Amazing.
Our tax policy not being as aggressive as it could be =/= insane tax policy.
To add onto this- every state that has looked into doing single payer has abandoned it because of the massive tax increase on the middle class it'd require.Our tax policy not being as aggressive as it could be =/= insane tax policy.
You realize a "sane" tax policy would require EVERYONE paying more in taxes, right?
It's not giving away money if they are effectively taxed.Like, my husband and I are fairly well off. We earn multiples of the median income in our area. We also own a quarter of the company he runs. We absolutely should pay more in taxes. No question in my mind. We aren't even that wealthy, but we should definitely be required to pay more. So should millionaires. So should billionaires. I don' think anyone disputes that. The idea, though, that all billionaires are bad people, or that they should be compelled or whatever into giving more money away....that's where I take issue.
Also, I looked at the charitable giving of all the presidential candidates. It's fucking sad.
Like, my husband and I are fairly well off. We earn multiples of the median income in our area. We also own a quarter of the company he runs. We absolutely should pay more in taxes. No question in my mind. We aren't even that wealthy, but we should definitely be required to pay more. So should millionaires. So should billionaires. I don' think anyone disputes that. The idea, though, that all billionaires are bad people, or that they should be compelled or whatever into giving more money away....that's where I take issue.
Also, I looked at the charitable giving of all the presidential candidates. It's fucking sad.
Her boss is a rascist and homophobic ... and her boss is the president of the United States.I know this is an insanely dumb question, but how the fuck does Kellyanne Conway have a job? She's terrible at hiding her racism and homophobia.