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US PoliEra 2019 |OT7| It's happening
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It amazes me that there aren't documented acts of racism by Trump. No photos, no recordings, nothing.
I guess blackface is more of a southern thing and he is a germaphobe.
I guess blackface is more of a southern thing and he is a germaphobe.
Makes sense I guess. No point staffing up anywhere else, if she doesn't win there.
Currently, Biden has the most Iowa staff at 75.
If there were something embarrassing in his yearbooks, Trump's exactly the kind of guy who would have bought up or destroyed as many copies as he could find, the way LBJ did. We know he bullied his almas mater to prevent the release of his transcripts, so he's definitely very aware of how that period might embarrass him. And he would have had both the means and motivation for the past 4 decades.
Ha! When I was a kid, I felt that way too. After all, it had the best space battle of the three, some of the coolest vehicles, and the good guys win at the end. Don't most kids?
Yeah, Return is a kids movie. Loving Empire comes later, when you can appreciate the downbeat ending and state-of-flux it ends on.
Ha! I had the same thought earlier.
To be fair though, Return of the Jedi is a film that I think a lot of people tend to like way more when they're younger. Heck, it was my favorite growing up and that mindset and nostalgia carried over until I was mostly done with High School and was able to go back and accept the film's significant flaws. Even went to film school with a buddy who still cites it as his personal favorite in the series.
This. It can be difficult for kids to fully appreciate Empire in all its glory at first. That's typically a story that you learn to appreciate more as you grow up.
This is giving me life.
ROTJ was by far my favourite of the three when I was little, and the one I rewatched the most. It's the most kid-pleasing of the three.
Personally I'm glad Beto said he wants to take ARs. It's bold and it definitely comes from the heart. I also like how he hasn't backed down from it. And I agree with you, I think more Dems need to stand-up for what they really believe, instead of always speaking out of both sides of their mouth.
That said, in terms of the general election I'm also a realist. The GOP, NRA, and various super PACs will exploit Beto's statements about taking people's guns. Also Warren saying she wants to abolish private insurance just isn't a "political view" that people will say, "at least she's being honest". There are real-world implications where people could think their private insurance will be at risk, especially after the GOP smear machine gets rolling.
A Warren/Beto ticket will be too easy to paint as radical even if voters feel they are authentic. I'm not saying the ticket can't win, but it'll be one of the more risky tickets and as I said one of my primary desires is a ticket that will produce an election landslide and tilt the Senate back toward the Dems. A complete repudiation of Trumpism and control of all 3 branches to fix the mess he's created. So while a Warren/Beto ticket would be far more appealing to me personally, I'll take a Warren/Ryan ticket if it makes Warren more electable and keeps the Senate in play. I'll bite my tongue the same way I would if Biden is nominated if it means Trump is destroyed in the GE.
Looks like I struck a nerve. Sorry if I'm ruining the dinner rehearsal for Warren's coronation in this thread, but I think it's good to have a slightly contrarian opinion around here to keep some of you grounded. I did the same thing 9 months ago when almost everyone here said Warren was "done" after the DNA debacle. I said it was way too premature to think she should drop out. I did the same thing 3-4 months ago when everyone here said for Beto to drop out and that he was a joke. I said Beto is capable of a "moment" and that it's far too soon to chop his head off. Flash forward now everyone is singing Beto's praises and want him on the ticket as VP. A complete 180, but where I was 3-4 months ago.
So you may think my takes are terribad, but so far I've been 3/3 this race on urging people to pump the brakes on prematurely canceling candidates (Warren, Buttigieg, and Beto).
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No comment from a Republican is basically shitting their pants.
If it wasn't a big deal, he would say "nothing burger, something something".
Correct. Which is why we need to know his thoughts on it and the prequels today.
Return of the Jedi's third act is pretty good. But the overall ewok insurrection is goofy and takes away from the movie. Empire Strikes Back is serious business and there isn't a single flaw in it.
I think it's fascinating - both in that it happened and how little it gets acknowledged by his supporters - how Sanders and Biden both entered the race with nearly 100% name recognition, but Sanders has never polled substantially better than 15%.
Like yeah, Biden stuck at 30% isn't terribly impressive either, but he's still the frontrunner when you're looking strictly at the numbers (so no discussion about "momentum" or anything else that isn't really tangible), and even in Nate's average there he's ten points ahead of Warren. Sanders on the other hand hasn't grown at all beyond a mere chunk of his support in 2016, yet you still have some of his supporters acting like this is destined to come down to Biden and Sanders.
I just think this is a fundamental misreading of the US media dynamic. Every ticket is going to be painted as "too extreme" by the right, so there's 40% of the country that believes, regardless of any protestations to the contrary, that Democratic candidate wants nothing more than to take their guns and their private insurance and also probably kill their babies and a bunch of other stuff. Whatever. The mainstream media will humor them, because they need to seem balanced. So now about 20% more is up for grabs.
If the Dems say that they don't want XYZ things that the right-wing media has accused them of, that 40% believes that in addition to being opposed to them on policy, they're also liars. So now that 20% that's up for grabs is hearing that not only do the Dems want to do some stuff that, hey, maybe they support, maybe they don't, they're also lying about their entire agenda. It creates a huge amount of uncertainty.
Now, I'm not saying that dems who don't believe we should, from a policy-first perspective, abolish private insurance or take people's guns should say they do. But I think that sticking true to your principles on this stuff is worth a lot more than playing it safe would be. I don't think that playing it safe is worth much of anything, frankly, and might actually cost you overall.
So, yeah, sure. Warren/Beto! Why not.
Lol, no my nerves are fine, it's just a really bad take. Hickenlooper? lmao.
You think that Warren should pick Delaney as VP?????? Like what the hell. lol.
Beto polling at like 3% and people generally liking him doesn't mean he isn't a joke at this point and shouldn't drop out.
If you're polling below Andrew Yang you should drop out.
This article embedded in NateMagenta's Twitter comments masochism is hilarious in retrospect.
www.theatlantic.com
You think that Warren should pick Delaney as VP?????? Like what the hell. lol.
Beto polling at like 3% and people generally liking him doesn't mean he isn't a joke at this point and shouldn't drop out.
If you're polling below Andrew Yang you should drop out.
This article embedded in NateMagenta's Twitter comments masochism is hilarious in retrospect.
The 2020 Race Is Going Just Like Bernie Sanders Wanted
The senator from Vermont is starting to think he will not only win the Democratic nomination, but beat Trump and become president.
www.theatlantic.com
He was measuring the drapes in his head in April and thought Joe was a nothingburger.
I mean, I didn't read the above at the time... but maybe they thought that 15% was all they needed lol.
Nah, she clearly needs this goober.
Well there are allegedly recordings of him on The Apprentice that the producer threatened to sue people if they leaked them, so...
to be completely fair, when he was polling at his best (after announcement and before Biden announced) he was polling around 22-23%. But yeah, having to compete with Biden really hurt him because Biden"s candidacy probably took a good amount of his previous voters. Gabbard and Yang running probably doesnt help, as their (admittedly small) numbers are likely coming from his previous supporters.
But yeah, I wonder when his biggest media supporters will recognize that his base is heavily split and his chances of winning arent high barring a surprise win in Iowa. Leftists like Sam Seder and Michael Brooks are more vocal and open about Bernie"s current weaknesses but many others seem to either not know or they dont want to admit it.
Without even exaggerating, I feel like this is about the 10th different entity he's sued in relation to his taxes. It's like an involuntary muscular reflex.
Yet the GOP and his supporters see nothing fishy at all all about the President's utter deperation to shield his finances from public view. 🙄
The beauty of ticket balancing. I see it as this:
Biden / [insert woman of color]
Sanders / [Insert moderate woman]
Warren / [Insert white daddy]
Harris / [Insert exciting/firebrand candidate]
Booty / [insert white female candidate]
Again, my agenda is getting a maximum GE victory and winning the Senate back. Other people's agenda may be different, they may be more concerned with getting a true progressive tag-team and have real unabashed progressives in office, instead of squishy cautious moderates.I respect that too. It's just I see Trump and Trumpism as an existential threat, so I'm more concerned with general election margins and the Senate than anything else.
Two or three of your combinations are just going to depress black turnout.
Buttigieg and Klobuchar?
Perpetual Trump.
Buttigieg and Klobuchar?
Perpetual Trump.
It's definitely confirmation he's commenting on the reports. He only comments on shit that's public and making the rounds making him look "BAD!"
Now the question is are reports accurate (they most likely are)
So, is this confirmation that the whistleblower complaint really is about him?
He's just reacting to the news.
Curious because of the OT thread, but what do the neoliberal corporate centrist shrills think is acceptable grounds for US military intervention?
If any.
And/or combined Western nation allied interventions.
If any.
And/or combined Western nation allied interventions.
Interesting that I'm ahead of the pack on my cynicism here. Though I agree the wording isn't his usual aggressive self-pantsing self.
Edit: Mind wandering gave me two explanations
1. It's a Scavino tweet
2. Those calls don't get monitored if he uses his private cell like a moron
Kinda said this a while back when everyone was arguing over margins as a reason she'd be a bad candidate. Instead of a strategic one. There wasn't a reason to spend it to increase margins.
Preventing mass slaughter of civilian populations a la Rwanda, but in that particular case solving the underlying ethnic tensions would have been near-impossible and I'm not sure the end result would've been better. We'd basically get stuck there in a stalemate.
Providing aid and grants to develop equitable economies should trump all that, though. It's all good and well to "introduce" democracy, but if the people themselves don't see value in it it won't last. It needs to come from within.
And I'm definitely going to get shit for this but I'm not against US military supremacy. Unipolarity gives us a measure of stability we wouldn't otherwise have. Just look at the Cold War, all of LATAM and SEA was on fire because the US and USSR were engaged in the world's largest pissing contest. As soon as the US withdraws, someone will step in to fill the void no matter how much we want everyone to just please get along. I'm certainly not going to tel the US to get out of my country.
Hey, at least he's got a confirmed story where someone called him "Sir".
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