US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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Definitively not a shit stirrer aimed to rile up a community with dumb generalization with a repeated history.
You - Ancedotal evidence of your family.
Actual polling - shows Warren with a 77%-4% split in favorability among Democrat's - https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3644
Sanders has to expand his base past the farther left. That's always been his problem, and an AOC endorsement does not help that. So we're back to the original problem of this benefiting Biden, though polls had Warren expanding more with centrists as of late.
It could help, but thinking this is some miracle potion for his campaign is ridiculous.
It could help, but thinking this is some miracle potion for his campaign is ridiculous.
the endorsement's probably going to staunch bleeding but not much more simply because it doesn't fix the "seemingly incapable of appealing to olds and Clinton voters" problem
Is it? Who’s mind is it going to change. I’m a Warren supporter and would never switch to Bernie. I’d even hold my nose to vote for him against Trump.
Because Sanders had them already lined up, and his heart attack has crippled his numbers and overall image/narrative. His campaign is whipping AOC out because they need something to stop the bleeding. It's less AOC endorsing Sanders, and more Sanders Campaign calling AOC and saying "it's time, we need you"
I'd love for your idiotic ass to compile a complete list of poliera saying this. Last i checked we had maybe one person doing the 'cancel' routine. Rest are basically at worst saying 'well AOC maybe doesn't have the immaculate instincts i thought she had'.
Yeah, I didn't think AOC would endorse anyone.
And, yeah, I didn't really care that much about AOC. I don't hate her. My opinion on her hasn't changed. I never brought up AOC unprompted. Ever. And that kinda speaks for itself.
bro I’m not a noted Bernie supporter. Warren is the only presidential campaign I’ve donated to in my life. Also last I saw Warren has like a 3-5% drop in head to heads vs trump vs Biden which is what I’m talking about not the primary. Read my post again maybe. I want warren to win. I pointed out explicitly it’s anecdotal. In a somewhat purple state I’m kind of concerned about that anecdotal feedback. That’s all. Your post is needlessly dickish.
in fairness like 5 people decided to come in here to take dumb potshots simultaneously with that post and also your anecdote directly contradicts, like, literally all of the favorability polling
Are yall really going to sit here and deny this? You're literally going to downplay your actions?
Yall are literally dumping on AOC, after less than a day of praising her with some misguided assumption she was somehow going to endorse Warren, and now you wanna be like "Stop telling me I was wrong.
It's really embarrassing that AOC is now some meh congresswoman to you now all of a sudden
I think endorsing a doomed campaign isn't smart from a political standpoint, but if she agrees with him ideologically, she should do what she feels is right.
I like her as much as I ever did, which is quite a bit. My opinion hasn't changed.
I like her as much as I ever did, which is quite a bit. My opinion hasn't changed.
A lot of polling shows Elizabeth Warren with great favourability among democrats.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3644
Quinnipiac, October 14th, Among Democrats:
Warren 77% favourable, 4% unfavourable.
Biden 75% favourable, 16% unfavourable
Sanders 73% favourable, 16% unfavourable
how about you point out a single point in the last month where i've directly referred to AOC at all. you can't, because the last time I mentioned her was in the OT4 OP six fucking months ago
this is why it's so rich that you always bitch about this thread in ETC, because it's plain as fucking day that you come in here posting a bunch of moronic generalizing garbage that literally adds nothing to discussion so you can air grievances in metaposts endlessly once you invariably get dunked on
The zero risk move would be not endorsing.
Which is what most of the more prominent faces in the party are doing.
Why do you keep quoting random users and assigning an entire thread of comments to specific people
I'm glad you're thinking of us a lot more than we think of you. That's very kind.
Moderation took a fucking vacation with this thread i know that much. Reports be damned. They dont give a shit.
Yang is on the right track in terms of the dangers of automation. Just watching MSNBC and I think Chris Hayes is naive here. We have to start tackling this issue before it's too late. The advancements made in machine learning are no joke, and they only get better year after year.
I give this 140/90.
Yes, I overestimated her political savvy.
Who's dumping on her? And who said she was going to endorse Warren? Most people were just saying she wouldn't endorse until someone won. What's embarrassing is the blatant misinterpretation you're doing.
I don't think you can find a SINGLE post in my history, for example, praising or particularly dumping on AOC. Maaaaayyybeee I praised her response to a hearing once. That's about it.
The second post you quoted is... right. She will rally with the nominee, whomever we chose.
I suspect it's a Hail Mary caused by those issues. It being so early can be a point in their favour, it will be a long time between now and when they will endorse the eventual nominee (in the most likely scenario where it isn't Sanders).
Yeah I’m not talking about the primary. Whatever y’all I’m not in the mood to get dog piled on and banned for no reason (aka when defending yourself against a wall of hostile posts about an innocuous post like this one is considered bannable hostility).
have a good night
have a good night
maybe not enthusiastically with Biden, but she might show up to events for him
I don't think it's a recent thing, to be honest. This thread has been increasingly irritating to read, in my opinion. Maybe it's just the natural consequence of contentious primaries, but bleh.
Please show me where I personally dumped on AOC for her decision to endorse Bernie. By all means.
The floor is yours.
A lot of us wrongly assumed she wouldn't do anything like this. Duh. I'll speak for myself, however-- Though I'm behind Warren I'm MORE interested in preventing Biden from being the nominee than I am interested in voting for Warren. So I'll pan fucking anything that might advance Biden's cause.
Lets hope it isnt Biden. But yes, do we really think she wouldn't go for Warren if she was the nominee.
I really don’t think anyone, besides those who already disliked her, is going to give a shit about her endorsing Bernie’s campaign in 5 years and this will forever put her in the good graces of rose Twitter and the DSA for going down with the ship.
I thought she wouldn’t endorse, at least until it was obvious Bernie was done and only Warren could beat Biden, but the more I think about it, the more I don’t blame her for doing it.
I thought she wouldn’t endorse, at least until it was obvious Bernie was done and only Warren could beat Biden, but the more I think about it, the more I don’t blame her for doing it.
The whole point behind official endorsements is if you have 2 strong candidates still in the running you dont go all in early like this and risk severe blowback. Because isf she endorses and then he doesnt get it, you got pressure dynamics of 'fight the system' which just tears shit apart when unity needs to consolidate close to the general.
fwiw my bad for going in that hard, the other clown shit on these last couple pages is... annoying me
Let’s be real, if AOC and the squad were endorsing Warren this weekend, the reaction here would not be “meh endorsements don’t mean much.”
I’m not surprised AOC is endorsing Bernie. She did campaign him for after all and is also notably a Dem Socialist. I’m more surprised that she’s endorsing this early; I figured she would more likely wait until closer to the NY primary. But this makes sense:
Anyway, I missed the debate, and since everyone is just talking about AOC endorsing Bernie I assume I didn’t miss anything.
I’m not surprised AOC is endorsing Bernie. She did campaign him for after all and is also notably a Dem Socialist. I’m more surprised that she’s endorsing this early; I figured she would more likely wait until closer to the NY primary. But this makes sense:
That said, I’m not really sure how this moves the numbers much, since I assume there was already a pretty big overlap between AOC and Bernie supporters?
Anyway, I missed the debate, and since everyone is just talking about AOC endorsing Bernie I assume I didn’t miss anything.
to be fair to moderation, how do you moderate the country tearing itself apart? Tough! AND SAD!
Doing nothing isn't, like, an inherently zero risk move. Obviously we can't really calculate the risks or whatever, but I can't really see her career being significantly impacted by either decision. What's gonna happen to her? What's the downside?
maybe in general, but i personally haven't given a shit about any endorsements so far and i'm not about to start
I am not paying respect to that pissdrinking racist
Also fuck H3H3 for befriending him
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