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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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Not sure if this is a mistake or not. Trump has made it abundantly clear he doesn't feel beholden to anyone but Republicans. Blue States and Democrats can get fucked
Thank god Nancy Pelosi waited until it was politically convenient to start the impeachment process.
...And Trump still did this. And could've done it even if he'd been impeached six months ago.
Did anything happen in the last ten pages of note? Are you all still responding to obvious bait?
Are we still discussing trash heap Honorable her majesty Nina Turne
Are we still discussing trash heap Honorable her majesty Nina Turne
Sanctions on a country for doing something greenlit by the President. There isn't a big enough thinking emoji for this.
Impeachment is a political process that requires a political solution. So yes, it was good that we waited to charge in full force until we had something we could potentially actually get him out of office with.
Also Rand Paul going to oppose unanimous consent so it's going to take even longer.
He isn't getting removed. Not even a 0.000001% chance.
Impeachment is a political stunt (One that I support. Not all political stunts are bad.) This should've been been done as soon as Trump's concentration camps started popping up.
So, the other quote is even worse.
Narcissistic sociopath says what?
Narcissistic sociopath says what?
My apologies then. You are 100% correct.
Edit: Apparently some people agree with that ironic statement unironically.
It ended up being the right call. The Ukrain scandal is so simple that people ok the right are coming around. Trump and Republicans are so fucked
If you're not using the final impeachment vote to try and remove him from office, why are you bothering using it? That's the point of it. It may fail, but you have to make the actual attempt. Prior to Ukraine just using the hearings was what we should have done because we didn't have a chance of taking him out. Ukraine changed that and gave us the leverage to make a real shot at him. Two weeks before Nixon resigned Ford was talking up the "they're overturning an election" bullshit.
Anything less than going for Trump's throat is defeatism only interested in an airing of grievances to make people feel like doing nothing Is doing something. Or, as I like to call it, "The Impeachment of Donald Trump by the Coward Osita Nwanevu."
On one hand you argue that impeachement has a 0% chance of removing Trump and stopping him, on the other hand you're complaining that the Dems didn't start the process earlier to... stop him from doing this. Ok...
I said it's a political stunt. Like the Benghazi hearings. You don't actually have to accomplish anything you just have to make him look bad. I have 100% supported doing that ever since the concentration camps showed up.
Oh look. The numbers are getting worse for Trump.
But sure, we shouldn't try to get him out because reasons.
I did as well. But you don't need an actual impeachment vote for that, just hearings.
Ukraine changed everything about actually making an attempt to remove him from office.
The Benghazi Hearings (much like "Her Emails") were exactly that, hearings with no teeth. Political theater not going anywhere because it couldn't go anywhere because at that time Hillary wasn't President, and they were not using those attacks in an attempt to remove Obama nor even attempting to start a process to achieve such an end.
Impeachment is *not* hearings, it is a full blown process with intent of removal.
Like, these are completely different things.
Fox has always had good pollsters, and its actually one of their major claims to relevance in news.
If this trend holds up going through this week and into next, we truly are reaching the end of the rope upon which Trump hangs himself.
Let's see how craven he gets in the coming days as the chickens come home to roost.
Seems like it'll be pretty hard to win an election when half the country wants you removed before your current term ends.
Wouldn't be surprised if most of the Reps that supports removal does so because they want to run someone better in 2020
Wouldn't be surprised if most of the Reps that supports removal does so because they want to run someone better in 2020
Yup, in 2 more weeks there's going to be a lot of Republicans throwing Trump under the bus if this keeps up.
Fox is one of the most accurate pollsters out there. They just tend not to publish polls contrary to the motives of their propaganda arm. This is actually terrible news for Trump, this is one of the polls that will indicate real sentiment.
Also, if you don't have good pollsters, how can you direct your propaganda effectively? It makes sense for Fox to have a good foundation.
Election Night 2012 w/ Megyn Kelly smacking down Karl Rove on air might play into why they aren't willing to screw with the numbers.
Trump clearly thinks this is the end, which is why he's jamming his tools into the machinery on the way out.
Most of the Rs that are left are pretty dang safe in their seats in the House. You have a few marginal ones, but a lot of those folks have retired. With the Senate, you have folks who have to run state wide races. Senators are always going to be more pragmatic than House reps.
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