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US PoliEra 2019 |OT9| I'm really glad I'm not on Twitter nearly enough to understand all the references
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Honestly I think trump lying to mueller about not knowing about the Wikileaks drop and his stone contact (so verifiable perjury) is a bigger deal than this Ukraine stuff. It's also easy to understand and verifiable.
I think the Dems should include it in these proceedings and call witnesses on it.
They aren't going to lose people over verifiable perjury especially if you can call in secret service agents.
I don't think it needs to be a focus but I also dont think it should just be forgotten about. It kind of seems that way already.
I think the Dems should include it in these proceedings and call witnesses on it.
They aren't going to lose people over verifiable perjury especially if you can call in secret service agents.
I don't think it needs to be a focus but I also dont think it should just be forgotten about. It kind of seems that way already.
Ah, maybe that's why it didn't really stick out to me, because of course Trump would lie.
he made the argument "to impeach trump for extortion they'll have to call trump a liar!" as if that's some big hurdle and trump doesn't lie constantly every time he opens his mouth. I don't know if ratcliffe realized what he did (because he's an idiot), but he did make a dumb-looking pause when he finished.
(btw can we try and find better tweets to source than claude taylor)
Biden doesn't remind Obama of himself, unlike Beto and Patrick. In that, Obama doesn't see in Biden a lot of the qualities he perceives were instrumental for Obama to win. I'm guessing Obama believes people like Beto, Butti, Patrick and who knows who else, are "the next Obama".
Also, Patrick is Obama's friend since before he ran for president and picked Biden for VP, and one of the reasons Obama decided to run, actually. David Axelrod, who was also Deval Patrick's campaign advisor, convinced Obama to run in part by pointing out that if black man could win the governor's race in Massachusetts, so could Obama now win the presidency.
He's 33. There are many people around this age in this thread. Me included.
Really? Jeez. It doesn't come across like he's that young. :/ I might just be dead inside from all the times that kind of thing has been said by older people trying too hard.
If appealed and if 4 Justices grant cert. I would laugh heartily if there is no cert.
Sekulow sure as hell wants to
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Well that's the problem too, politicians have to put on a face so when they open up their hobbies or interests it can still seem fake, even if it's genuine.
I remember one of my theatre buddies claimed Clinton praising Hamilton was just pandering. Like dude, everyone likes Hamilton, and who do you think can afford to see it in New York?
lmao that flop josh harder wants to be jenna marbles sooooo bad
Ratcliff spent 5 minutes building an argument about President Zelinsky. First he asked Kent and Taylor if they thought he was honest and trustworthy; they said yes. Then he pointed out that Zelinsky has never publicly said that the US extorted him. The big finale was supposed to be, "If you want to impeach Trump, you have to call President Zelinsky a liar" but he fucked up, like all fuck-ups do.
Taylor's smirk at the end is the best.
I know exactly what happened there. Ratcliffe was trying to create a sound bite for FoxNews primetime but the logic of Trump being a truth teller only makes any sense inside the FoxNews bubble, so when he delivered those lines in an impeachment hearing in front of a national audience, he was surprised to smell the actual shit coming out of his mouth and quickly yielded his time.
A puppet making a fool of himself for his amusement.
ahahahahahaha
Yeah, this is all true. There have been times when politicians have revealed hobbies and I didn't blink, but that Harder tweet just seemed a bit... silly? I guess? So I figured he was an oldie. Lesson taught about assumptions and all that.
So did the other two Trump stooges.
And these same judges are going to be deciding and setting precedent long after Trump is gone.
Yes. That doesn't mean they'll agree to hear it, but it's definitely going to be appealed.
I really hope Taylor's aide took some contemporaries notes after that phone call. What forced Sondland to revise his Congressional testimony wasn't just that witnesses contradicted him, but people like Taylor took notes of the phone calls/communications they had with him from THAT time. The notes like the ones Taylor and Comey took are almost as good as tape recordings because it creates a paper trail and removes some of the "he said, she said" element. The advantage goes to the person that took notes.
But if Taylor's aide didn't take any kind of notes, it'll be easy for just Sondland to say, "I don't recall" or simply refute it. So I'm not sure how big a bombshell this is until we find out what kind of corroboration there is.
Both are bad for Sue! Either way, it'll be over by Maine's filing deadline. Decisions, decisions.
Swift dismissal makes the most sense strategically, just rip the band-aid off. We all know how this is going to end, so why would they put themselves through the torment?
Because they want to be able to tell their mouthbreathing primary voters they EXONERATED TRUMP. NOT GUILTY. NO COLLUSION.
If they have to put their name on a vote no matter what, they at least want to be able to spread that message.
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The important takeaway from that article is that the GOP don't anticipate actually having a majority to dismiss immediately. So naturally they're going to prepare for a longer trial.
Ironically, I long trial would help the likes of Biden and Booty because it would sideline Warren and Bernie form the campaign trail for long stretches. Considering the GOP supposedly wants Warren or Bernie to be the nominee, not sure a long trial is in their best interest. But McConnell may be less concerned about Presidential politics and more concerned about Senate politics in vulnerable seats.
Consider the fact that there's a good chance that the next dem presidential nominee is a senator. Then you can see that McConnell might just want to keep Congress locked down for as long as possible.
That makes little sense though. These Senators will be surrounded daily by media willing to broadcast their stump/ impeachment speeches. They will also fundraise off the effort. It'll be a giant, focused megaphone for two months
Any av worthy facial expressions from today? This av is starting to stink up the place.
Also, we should start workshopping titles for the new OT
Also, we should start workshopping titles for the new OT
If someone has a good cap of goober Meadows' smile that be a lovely avatar.
Slight upside: It makes McConnell's re-election more difficult since he'll be stuck in the Senate.
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