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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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There is literally a section on his website called "Joe's Vision" that has links to his plans
She's on one of the top Making White People Feel Good About Themselves network TV shows, so she's a perfect fit for an Iowa event.Mandy Moore?
so in the eyes of the average person here, is bernie gonna take a hit from all this or nah. too tired/stupid to tell
literally impossible to tell until Warren says something.
WAY too early to tell, the average person has no idea anything has happened
What you SHOULD have gone after Biden for was Anita Hill. It has the double wammy of being racist and sexist, plus it was one of the most disgusting things he's ever done. His ass should have been called out on it from day one. Why no one went after him on it makes no sense to me. Instead, everyone has been sniping at whomever happens to be in second place at any given moment. This ain't Rupaul's best friend race. Go for the fucking throat or what are we even doing here?
Also, if I was Warren, I'd say nothing about the stories until the debate. No matter what she says, CNN is going to ask the question about the "Woman can't win" and "Your campaign pamphlet" thing. If she has receipts for the first, I'd drag his ass halfway across the stage with it. If you don't, then you get to take the high road. Hell, you can even non answer the story with "I won't discuss private conversations we had about the 2020 campaign, only to say blah blah blah."
Historically, when Bernie's been put on the spot for shitty things his campaign has done, he has not reacted how we would define as well. (Remember the exchange in 2016 when his campaign was caught in Hillary's voter data, and it took pulling teeth to get him to apologize?") So I can guaran-fucking-tee you he's gonna get pissy when he's asked about the pamphlet. And, while I know a lot of his supporters really love the grumpy grandpa thing, a lot of voters don't, especially some of the ones he needs to win over to actually get the nomination.
Honestly, the two stories are so perfectly aligned with a lot of the red flags that people have about Bernie. If leveraged correctly, it could be really, really good for Warren.
But, instead, they'll snip at each other, Amy will yell WHY CANT WE JUST GET ALONG, and Biden will skate above it all.
Also, if I was Warren, I'd say nothing about the stories until the debate. No matter what she says, CNN is going to ask the question about the "Woman can't win" and "Your campaign pamphlet" thing. If she has receipts for the first, I'd drag his ass halfway across the stage with it. If you don't, then you get to take the high road. Hell, you can even non answer the story with "I won't discuss private conversations we had about the 2020 campaign, only to say blah blah blah."
Historically, when Bernie's been put on the spot for shitty things his campaign has done, he has not reacted how we would define as well. (Remember the exchange in 2016 when his campaign was caught in Hillary's voter data, and it took pulling teeth to get him to apologize?") So I can guaran-fucking-tee you he's gonna get pissy when he's asked about the pamphlet. And, while I know a lot of his supporters really love the grumpy grandpa thing, a lot of voters don't, especially some of the ones he needs to win over to actually get the nomination.
Honestly, the two stories are so perfectly aligned with a lot of the red flags that people have about Bernie. If leveraged correctly, it could be really, really good for Warren.
But, instead, they'll snip at each other, Amy will yell WHY CANT WE JUST GET ALONG, and Biden will skate above it all.
Okay, I googled what show you were talking about. This is Us. My boomer mother watches it.
Trudeau effectively blaming Trump for the deaths of Canadians in Iran.
"If there were no tensions, if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families," said Trudeau.
"If there were no tensions, if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families," said Trudeau.
Bernie's team lied about his heart attack, and Bernie said he thought white voters were not racist if they were uncomfortable voting for Gillum or Abrams. I hope no one is surprised by this.
I've met soooo many 'liberals' who think that "we need a white man to beat trump. Sorry, there's too many racists to take a risk."
He's really going to win over Clinton voters.
How do those things matter when he's leading the Iowa poll?
So after Bernie comes out and says it's a lie, Warren comes out and says 'that mfer said it but let's move on'.
I love her, lol.
I love her, lol.
I gotta ask, Bernie says a woman COULDNT win, not that one SHOULDNT win
whats the big problem?
whats the big problem?
It's LITERALLY the worst possible thing that could be levied against Bernie Sanders. it fits the narrative to a fucking letter.
It's :chefs kiss:
Warren's response means he either has to admit he said it (which would be bad) or call her a liar (which would also be bad.)
I mean there is a big difference between
"I don't think a woman can win because women are weak and dumb" and "I don't think a woman can win because America is hella sexist - did you see what they just did in 2016?"
Lots of people in this thread have said the later (unfortunately). What Bernie said, at least right now, could have gone either way right?
"I don't think a woman can win because women are weak and dumb" and "I don't think a woman can win because America is hella sexist - did you see what they just did in 2016?"
Lots of people in this thread have said the later (unfortunately). What Bernie said, at least right now, could have gone either way right?
Also it's fake and Warren is really a Republican slash DNC plant anyway. Attacks will make Bernie STRONGER like the heart attack and Pete and the wine cave and Tulsi and Hillary.
Just as well you're not the target audience for this news then!
I am curious how this got out--Once the report appeared and Bernie denied it, Warren seemingly had to release a statement to stem the 'look at Warren panicking; all this recent not-great Bernie stuff just reflects so poorly on her' takes that were starting to pop up. If she didn't intend to go public--if a staffer leaked it or something--the delay in statement makes sense because threading the needle between acknowledging it as kind of fucked up and not actively wanting to trash Sanders over it would take some work.
So ready for this whole mess to be over, but fully expect to hear more about how actually this all makes Warren look bad.
So ready for this whole mess to be over, but fully expect to hear more about how actually this all makes Warren look bad.
Bernie made this so much worse than it had to be. If he just came out and said "I meant to say not that a woman couldn't run because she's a woman, but due to the nature of America right now. It was worded poorly on my part; Liz would make an excellent President." If that was his answer, some would make a stink of it, but it would largely go away.
Instead, he lied about it, and now that will be used to fit a pattern: that he's vain, that he has an inflated opinion of himself, that he believes his own savior hype, etc. It's an own goal when it didn't need to be.
Instead, he lied about it, and now that will be used to fit a pattern: that he's vain, that he has an inflated opinion of himself, that he believes his own savior hype, etc. It's an own goal when it didn't need to be.
OR he didn't lie, and Liz heard what she wanted to hear. Misconstrued.
I really fear the more ardent Bernie fans are just not gonna vote in a GE. A lot of them really think it's rigged.
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