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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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If the KHive was a statistically significant proportion of the primary electorate beyond mild "these folks are annoying on Twitter" we'd currently be having the same conversation but with Harris in place of Warren
You're absolutely right that he's a poll Luddite who seems terrified at the idea of online polls possibly being a legitimate source of data.
Bingo. I've voted for people I didn't like before, simply because option B was worse
Absolutely agree with this and have always thought it was sort of silly how attached people get to their votes as if it's some sort of extension of themselves and some cross they have to bear for their entire lives. In practically any hypothetical matchup between Trump and a Democrat, I will vote for the Democrat, even if it's someone very very much unpreferable, like Biden. It's not really a huge effort to vote most of the time, and it's obviously the better of the two options by miles and miles. That's really all there is to it, imo.
There's plenty to be said about whether or not certain candidates or others are nearly good enough, but refusing to vote at all when Trump is on the ballot is deeply irresponsible.
Yep.
I would have to question everything that allowed Tulsi Gabbard to be the face of the Democratic Party at that point.
Something I've noticed about online polls vs live call polls is that online polls are very steady. YouGov, MorningConsult, Civiqs, Ipsos all have a very steady range of approval/disapproval for Trump going back forever. But live phone calls go up and down and sometimes seem to follow no noticeable pattern. It's weird.
Id love to pick Nate Silvers brain about this.
Id love to pick Nate Silvers brain about this.
Plus, like, it's extra weird that votes are seen as so important when everything good we've ever gotten we've gotten through organizing, not through voting alone!
I know there's no reason to use any mental energy thinking about a Tulsi nomination because it's fucking Tulsi....
But, as a gay man, and speaking only for myself, i don't know that I could vote for her. Her and her cult don't believe people like me, famliies like mine, relationships like mine should exist. Have I voted for candidates with shitty LGBT records in the past? Of course. Have I voted for a dictator loving, anti-LGBT, cult member.....no. I do not know that I could do it. I genuinely don't. I'd still vote....but idk if I could vote for her.
But, like I said, totally irrelevant to reality.
But, as a gay man, and speaking only for myself, i don't know that I could vote for her. Her and her cult don't believe people like me, famliies like mine, relationships like mine should exist. Have I voted for candidates with shitty LGBT records in the past? Of course. Have I voted for a dictator loving, anti-LGBT, cult member.....no. I do not know that I could do it. I genuinely don't. I'd still vote....but idk if I could vote for her.
But, like I said, totally irrelevant to reality.
Fact Check: Joe Biden Has Advocated Cutting Social Security for 40 Years
“I tried with Senator Grassley back in the 1980s to freeze all government spending, including Social Security, including everything,” Biden said in 1995.
theintercept.com
Fuck Joe Biden
I mean I'll vote for him in the GE if he's the nominee but I will be so utterly bitter
I'm skipping Bernie vs Warren shenanigans. It's always something with him and the people around him. I'm still with Warren if she gets that far.
This is a direct result of his admitting he was a sucker and having so little awareness. Amazing.
This is a direct result of his admitting he was a sucker and having so little awareness. Amazing.
Is this why someone posted non-ironically that they like Chuck Todd today? I was wondering what would prompt it.
Watching CFP title game, Trump looks so uncomfortable when shown every time with his deadass eyes.
Fact Check: Joe Biden Has Advocated Cutting Social Security for 40 Years
“I tried with Senator Grassley back in the 1980s to freeze all government spending, including Social Security, including everything,” Biden said in 1995.
Fuck Joe Biden
I mean I'll vote for him in the GE if he's the nominee but I will be so utterly bitter
Joe Biden is a serial liar with a long ass history of Racism and terrible instincts. Sadly he may be our Nominee, but we'll see how all of this shakes out.
I was gonna make a Chuck Todd to Chuck God to Chuck Todd to Chuck (blank) but couldn't think of a rhyme so I went to an online rhyming dictionary and it said blackboard rhymes with fraud? What?
You could probably diagnose 2/3 of the political with sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies
It's how you know true Trump normalization has completed is when everyone is just discussing 'insert x democrat here who i cant in good faith vote for'.
The trouble with the GOP pushing out almost all of its sane members (or those who have too much self-respect to tolerate insanity at least) means that it becomes harder for a grifter to rise up on the Dem side.
I don't think Warren's a liar and I don't think Bernie's a sexist.
Anyways back to the surge:
If this poll is accurate then Bernie is capitalizing on Kamala dropping out which is hilarious considering how much their online supporters utterly despise each other
Anyways back to the surge:
If this poll is accurate then Bernie is capitalizing on Kamala dropping out which is hilarious considering how much their online supporters utterly despise each other
Schiff on MSNBC just said he found out about the Russian hacking of Burisma via news reports, not from intel community sources or the trump admin. Still a bit of surprise hearing that.
I am extremely hesitant to believe that Warren received exactly zero bump from Harris dropping out especially in CA. She was the clear second choice for Harris voters per polling. I mean Bernie getting all of it? I'm skeptical.
So Sanders, Biden and Warren basically split the delegates three ways. Neat!
If either Bernie or Warren don't win the first three states and shift the electability narrative away from Biden then he'll probably end the race on Super Tuesday.
(I exclude Pete cause I don't think he's ever picking up black voters)
Canada. Apologies, for not being clear. I'm Canadian :P
It's clear they're icing the Gang of Eight out on pretty much all matters. Trump's cronies like Graham or Nunes get a heads up... maybe.
I would too.
I'm having a hard time of thinking of a case where I'd vote for the "best" Republican over the most vile Democratic party member, and it's not because I'm beholden to the Democratic party.
That's been the safe money bet for the past 2-3 months (since Warren started her slide).
Hell, the only thing that's changed is now it's looking like Biden is competitive in IA/NH (where he was buried before) and may just make his nomination a virtual certainty even before Super Tuesday.
That said, Bernie's not dropping out until the convention even if he has zero delegates at that point (he'll have some, but you get my point).
If this ends up happening, I don't expect many to have a whole lot of patience for it.
It is infuriating, constantly and consistently, to think that a host of motherfuckers who are presumably younger than me can cast any judgment on voting patterns when I've been voting constant Democratic since 2004, as someone who has paid attention to politics since the late 90s in my nascent teen years.
Go figure, some of us have been here before, realized decades ago that ALL Republicans are shit, and have committed to the cause ever since. But somehow we are suspect.
Speaking of, doing my weekly Facebook check-in, of fucking course I see this shared via an old colleague -
And here is the goddamn problem. In what world, in what reality, in what bubble do you possibly find yourself where not only are Warren and Sanders the ONLY available choices, but somehow so far apart as to engender this shit? It's the leftist version of my conservative grandmother who somehow thinks Catholics and evangelicals are the opposite end of a spectrum; it negates so much of reality as to render you moot to 95% of people that exist.
It is infuriating, constantly and consistently, to think that a host of motherfuckers who are presumably younger than me can cast any judgment on voting patterns when I've been voting constant Democratic since 2004, as someone who has paid attention to politics since the late 90s in my nascent teen years.
Go figure, some of us have been here before, realized decades ago that ALL Republicans are shit, and have committed to the cause ever since. But somehow we are suspect.
Speaking of, doing my weekly Facebook check-in, of fucking course I see this shared via an old colleague -
And here is the goddamn problem. In what world, in what reality, in what bubble do you possibly find yourself where not only are Warren and Sanders the ONLY available choices, but somehow so far apart as to engender this shit? It's the leftist version of my conservative grandmother who somehow thinks Catholics and evangelicals are the opposite end of a spectrum; it negates so much of reality as to render you moot to 95% of people that exist.
How is teaching at Ivy League school a bad thing?
Yep
I'd still be looking to bounce from the country in said timeline where Tulsi won.
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