In general I agree, but I think a lot of posts today have been just pure, unadulterated sexist nonsense, and I'm not sure if I want to ignore that.
this is assuming that's what happened.
But I agree you should always shake a hand when offered (unless that person didn't wash their hands or you know is very unhygienic).
Even if you have a legit reason (and hating a person's guts maybe one) it always looks bad for the person refusing.
If Warren is pissed that Bernie lied, good for her because she should be pissed, but most people and voters still don't think highly of people (Especially candidates and especially women) that can't set aside emotions or differences for simple things like handshakes.
I think the slavish Pelosi devotion is really strange and without irony, especially early in the term. Same with the #StillWithHer people and the militant Sanders people who can't admit one fault to him.Yeah totally, I think though whenever folks around here yasss queen for Pelosi or Clinton or whoever there's at least a hint of irony behind it? Like most of us are pretty sober about their weaknesses and disappointed when they fail.
Just think of everyone who cheered on Warren tonight who declared her candidacy dead on arrival. I was probably one of them.
I don't fuck with Twitter so the KHive is mostly invisible to me, here it's more the militant Sanders supporters (lord knows we don't have any actual Trump supporters, at least who talk about it openly).
Report posts, maybe? I've reported one post (Tukarr's sexist drivel). If I have the energy I reported others which are just blatantly excusing and promoting sexism, but... Christ, it's hard, and (as I noted yesterday in this thread), I'm a guy.
In general yeah, great idea. I think I'm just angrier today/this week. I try not to get too combative, but it's getting more difficult.Report posts, maybe? I've reported one post (Tukarr's sexist drivel). If I have the energy I reported others which are just blatantly excusing and promoting sexism, but... Christ, it's hard, and (as I noted yesterday in this thread), I'm a guy.
to be clear, those thread titles early last year were about 75% irony posting on my partI think the slavish Pelosi devotion is really strange and without irony, especially early in the term. Same with the #StillWithHer people and the militant Sanders people who can't admit one fault to him.
And yes, I think I also said her candidacy was DOA.
is this about me, I feel like I actually am quite self-reflexive. It's one of my only positive qualities.
Melkr's been around a while, and I think even at the old place? I doubt they're a plant, just dumber than shit and a terrible person.
100% of my OT titles can either be read as Irony, Mocking hate or outright feeling of "fuck you".to be clear, those thread titles early last year were about 75% irony posting on my part
Pete definitely underperformed.Warren and Biden did the best tonight. Bernie looked like a liar on-stage, especially when he kept pushing the issue when people were ready to move on. Also as a Pete fan, I think this was one of his worst nights easily.
I'll admit I've probably defended Pelosi reflexively on this site just because I find the things she is often blamed for are not really well-founded, and just general gripes with the political status quo at-large. Especially when she was Minority Leader and not in much of a position to influence policy outside of table scraps during budget deals.I think the slavish Pelosi devotion is really strange and without irony, especially early in the term. Same with the #StillWithHer people and the militant Sanders people who can't admit one fault to him.
And yes, I think I also said her candidacy was DOA.
Yeah totally, I think though whenever folks around here yasss queen for Pelosi or Clinton or whoever there's at least a hint of irony behind it? Like most of us are pretty sober about their weaknesses and disappointed when they fail.
Just think of everyone who cheered on Warren tonight who declared her candidacy dead on arrival. I was probably one of them.
I don't fuck with Twitter so the KHive is mostly invisible to me, here it seems to be more of a problem with the militant Sanders supporters (lord knows we don't have any actual Trump supporters, at least who talk about it openly), hence my bringing them up. But that is all my very biased perspective.
Nooo lol, though I haven't seen many of you post.is this about me, I feel like I actually am quite self-reflexive. It's one of my only positive qualities.
What happens if you give to her general campaign but she doesn't make it?I can't give Warren any more money. Like, legally.
Rules shouldn't apply to me. This is VERY unfair.
Yeah, I actually am going to apologize to you.Like a lot of people here say way worse things about Bernie on a daily basis and guess what? That's cool and okay, politicians are to be criticized and even used as emotional punching bags. But the moment I say Warren looked bitter to me for not accepting a handshake (and now with more context I can see why she was mad and understand her reaction) I am suddenly a horrible person lol. Like what's the need of getting personal?
Hmmm, but was there anything in those texts or emails about Warren/Bernie?I again would like to point out that not only were smoking guns involved in our president criminal conspiracy revealed today but also hey some of those mighta suggested we ASSASSINATE OUR OWN AMBASSADOR.
Just another day in post Trump US.
Actually...I have no idea. I've never maxed out to someone who didn't make it to the general before.What happens if you give to her general campaign but she doesn't make it?
a refund?
Like a lot of people here say way worse things about Bernie on a daily basis and guess what? That's cool and okay, politicians are to be criticized and even used as emotional punching bags.
Bernie's answer was a slam dunk. His public endorsement of Warren to run in 2015 destroys any chance of believing he said something to purposefully discourage Warren.I mean Bernie looks badly in that exchange too. Just as bitter and petty. Both of them are acting ugly. Just watching what Bernie said, there were better ways to go over the issue, and even an apology would probably not hurt him more than dividing the progressive field. Then everyone could move on.
But idk, it just that I highly doubt Warren would be having this "nuke it all" attitude if she was polling higher than Bernie.
Ultimately politics are a play. Warren has played her card. If it works for her good. She would be the best candidate the Dems have ever run and possibly the most competent president ever.
We will know in one week though if polls start to shift. I am skeptical though.
I agree, Steyer really surprised me as well. I watched his post-debate interview and I was like "wait, this guy is actually pretty interesting."Pete definitely underperformed.
he was probably advised to let Bernie and Warren go against each other since his Iowa numbers are good enough.
klobuchar just did too much and it all sucked
Steyer surprised me. I'd be fine with him.
Biden was almost a parody of himself with his constant self cutoffs
I'd like to introduce you to Tulsi GabbardThis primary is starting to feel like 2016 again. I wonder which fauxgressive will play the part of Jill Stein trying to exploit the division.
I again would like to point out that not only were smoking guns involved in our president criminal conspiracy revealed today but also hey some of those mighta suggested we ASSASSINATE OUR OWN AMBASSADOR.
Just another day in post Trump US.
Aloha!This primary is starting to feel like 2016 again. I wonder which fauxgressive will play the part of Jill Stein trying to exploit the division.
I hope by some act of god yesterday's news doesn't come up during tonight's debate
Could anything have happened between 2015 and 2018 that would maybe have changed Bernie's opinion on whether or not a woman could beat Donald Trump? Can you think of....literally anything at all that happened between those two points in time? Literally anything?Bernie's answer was a slam dunk. His public endorsement of Warren to run in 2015 destroys any chance of believing he said something to purposefully discourage Warren.
The best Warren can hope for from the majority of Americans is that they forget about it after tomorrow.
I will take this to mean you are some sort of oracle and that we are gonna have a Warren Presidency. Thank you.Actually...I have no idea. I've never maxed out to someone who didn't make it to the general before.
I again would like to point out that not only were smoking guns involved in our president criminal conspiracy revealed today but also hey some of those mighta suggested we ASSASSINATE OUR OWN AMBASSADOR.
Just another day in post Trump US.
Yes, and not because prior to 2016 I was too poor to give more than $10 to any candidate.I will take this to mean you are some sort of oracle and that we are gonna have a Warren Presidency. Thank you.
Camp Warren: Bernie's attack is so slimy and underhanded...
Camp Bernie: Warren's attack is so slimy and underhanded...
The GOP: we floated the idea of killing an ambassador as a means to harm joe biden's campaign
Yeah, I actually am going to apologize to you.
I said it earlier, but I think my fuse is just burnt out, and so I'm at the lashing out phase of just being done. You didn't deserve it, even though I do think you, as a poster, are frequently wrong.
you can give again after the primary if she's the GE candidate.Actually...I have no idea. I've never maxed out to someone who didn't make it to the general before.
Could anything have happened between 2015 and 2018 that would maybe have changed Bernie's opinion on whether or not a woman could beat Donald Trump? Can you think of....literally anything at all that happened between those two points in time? Literally anything?
Females sure are cunning. 🐍 🐍 🐍Warren says that Bernie has been "friends and allies for a long time, and I have no doubt that we will continue to work together to defeat Donald Trump and put our government on the side of the people."
What does it mean when he extends a hand in friendship and she refuses?
Elizabeth Warren is a legitimately smart person. So she must have thought about this. She refuses to shake hands.
lol
Camp Warren: Bernie's attack is so slimy and underhanded...
Camp Bernie: Warren's attack is so slimy and underhanded...
The GOP: we floated the idea of killing an ambassador as a means to harm joe biden's campaign