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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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"Dirtbag left" is used by leftists, liberals, moderates, conservatives, and everything in between to mean different things. It is meaningless without context. Some people use it jokingly, some use it to smear leftists. I understand its origin from Chapo, please do not attempt to lecture me on leftism, it is extremely condescending. Don't act like I shield or refuse to criticize people being racist either, no matter what their ideology is.
Kirblar, this is completely ahistorical. Leftism has had massive movements from minority groups both in America and around the world. If socialism has an issue with alienating minority groups, it isn't any more true than any other ideology. I am not saying socialists who are racists are not socialists. There are minority leftists who actually make these critiques! Here's a good video that touches on it:
But I have no interest in publicly self-flagellating myself over the issues of racism and misogyny in leftism, ultimately. If there are issues within leftist communities regarding this, then that is where I will tackle it.
All this because fascist pieces of shit care more about their killing machines than they do mass shootings and children being shot at schools.
I have no idea what/who either of those are. But I listen to political podcasts daily.
Maybe it is but in this conversation it's being used in good faith. It's not like Chapo and Dirtbag Left don't have a problematic history. I, and others, have given you plenty of proper context.
Then don't act like you don't know who they are.
I'm unimpressed from what I've seen.
Frost is a founding member of the Chapo podcast and an infamous tank ie.
what's a tank ie?
these type of people remind me of an ex "friend" of mine who was a Bernie supporter with me, but then just went full Hillary For Prison and later went QAnon and peppered his posts with TDS acronyms. We're no longer friends.
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Then we're on the same side and you're getting mad at me for nothing?
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why are we "leftists" getting morally lectured from people who have been banned on this forum for having a sadistic viewpoint on the murdering of innocent Muslim people and calling for an outright ban on Chinese people into the country?
Do not engage with people with garbage, dehumanizing viewpoints, people. They'll go away eventually.
Do not engage with people with garbage, dehumanizing viewpoints, people. They'll go away eventually.
CNN only pushes shit content like this because they know we'll all click it. Look how this tale has consumed PoliERA for 30-odd pages!
I'd say it's a point in your favor you haven't impressed Ichy
I don't understand why is was OK for them to later release a non-hot mic conversation when they were discussing after the debate was over.
Kirblar has been banned for his viewpoints of killing Muslim people.
Itchy has been banned for calling on a ban of Chinese people (my wife) from entering the United States.
My frustration was you discussing things that happened in the socialism OT in another thread. I considered it inappropriate. If you feel differently then we will disagree.
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I only brought it up because you folks were there in that convo. It wasn't meant to beat the community up.
I warned you guys those types we're eventually gonna rear there heads. Sure enough here were are comparing Warren to Hillary and saying she's a snake.
She seems more like a hurt friend than a bitter political move imo from that sound bite.
It's been primary season for like 10 years, I've become an old lady since Beto dropped out, Auto is probs just entering middle school
Middle school? Auto is probably in college at this point while me feel like I've been in graduate school since Swalwell dropped out
I just went to Wikipedia to read about this.
"The main political divide in the borough is demarcated by the Staten Island Expressway; areas north of the Expressway tend to be more liberal while the south tends to be more conservative."
It is so weird how these kinds of divides come about.
warren beat the unsinkable Scott brown when he was an incumbent after he proved his bona fides by defeating the superlative candidate Martha Coakley
okay thanks for the clarification
the only reason I've been banned is for pointing out true facts and for commenting on a moderator saying he (redacted) (redacted) policies to (redacted) so let me say you guys should try harder to be less racist
Wait what's wrong with community college 😢I think I'd put more stock into the heart surgeon who graduated from Harvard Medical School (winning as an independent socialist in a midterm for an office held by republicans for 30 years) over the one who studied at a community college (winning as a democrat in a general election in Massachusetts)
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sounds like one person is more fiscally responsible than the other 🤔
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with going to a community college. Some people can't afford to start a 4 year, or don't want to take on massive debt. And they treated it like it was an insult.
it's just sooooo interesting to me to see how quickly folks who purport to be socialists fall back into classism, especially in this case when bernie's whole appeal is he's supposed to be normal compared to all the wealthy ivy league elites or whatever (it's also soooo interesting that harvard was chosen as the school for the example, because between warren and bernie i definitely associate harvard with bernie!)
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This is a very interesting article on the history of Staten Island consequent to the construction of the expressway:
https://www.silive.com/news/2017/05/disturbing_deep-rooted_pattern.html
https://www.silive.com/news/2017/05/disturbing_deep-rooted_pattern.html
when it's against the rich sure, but denigrating people who can't afford to go to ivy league schools? that's not very worker's revolution.
Trying to cut this word out of my diet, but the media description of voting blocs as "better educated" (having a college degree) is really a bit of a dogwhistle that's supposed to invoke feelings of "oh they're smart and know what they're talking about" but actually practically is something more like "people who know just as little as everyone else but paid $50000 for a cool piece of paper that makes them more Enlightened."
It's a kind of voter that seems at least to me to sometimes be tremendously thin-skinned. Which is why pointing out Warren's base being white and Better Educated causes a lot of them feel like they're having a self-perceived moral high ground flipped around and exposed as pretty meaningless in a political context.
I have a great friend who grew up with very little and community college was his way to get back into higher ed. after life circumstances made him quit. My father never went to college and works very hard for his family, and I had a better childhood than most in my state because of that. My mother went to a state school from a poor family and now does great things as a social worker. Everyone has a different path to the future they want to create for themselves and others, so seeing this kind of sneering from some folks is disheartening to say the least.
The idea that educational elitism has drip dropped down all the way from ivy-leaguers to even just people who simply have any bachelor's degree is pretty nauseating and I hate it.
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It absolutely is not ahistorical! There's another portion of the book I couldn't find online, I'll have to use my phone to grab it later, but the book dives into these intra-left white/black conflicts repeatedly. This passage is talking about 1889-1890
This also very much came up with Jewish people and the socialist movement in Europe, where it turned out "no, anti-semitism still very much persists regardless of the economics involved!" And it is more true than other ideologies, because the "class is the root of all evil" thesis runs directly counter to these groups' lived experiences.
No I fucking haven't. If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't say anything!
The ban re: Muslim issues was me making a point about religions with singing cultures (like say, the Gospel tradition) developing those skillsets in a population leading to having more singers around very, very badly and I totally deserved the smack because I completely mangled what I was trying to say in a way that was genuinely offensive.
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