I legit struggled with reading that post because I was infinitely confused by the parallel where Warren isn't the academic
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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Actually I think the problem was more likely that it erased people of color Warren supporters in a way that is pretty gross, I seem to recall having quite a few conversations about how "Bernie bro" was offensive for the same reason, but I guess maybe the people saying that, with respect, were acting in bad faith since some of the very same people were in the thread saying actually it's just statistically true when you say it about Warren
Yeah, that sounds kind of racist. Say it more carefully next time.
You obviously do not spend extensive time in leftist spaces if you think there is a significantly bigger problem with racism in socialism than other ideologies (especially, you know, fascism). I have no interest in arguing against my lived experience to satisfy you.
well fingers crossed for her that this most recent stunt leads to a scenario in which it's no longer statistically true about her campaign but it's not looking good tbh :/
I transferred from university to a community college after my first semester, now I pay $4k/year instead of $20k/year 😎
I didn't say racism. I said there is a significantly bigger problem with people claiming class is at the root of all issues, and that POV being offputting to minorities. Because generally, that's not a view outside the left!
Yeah, exactly. I wish more people gave community college a chance, since it's so much cheaper, and just as good. Especially if you can transfer to an in state university effortlessly once you graduate.
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You're right. If he didn't know you were banned for justifying war crimes too, Adrian's really underselling the heinous shit you've gotten back into this forum after saying. Frankly irresponsible.
Your mangled, still-racist double-down (after a mod post no less) would be way less... terrible if you had some other posting history.
... Arabic cultures don't have singing traditions? Are you out of your fucking gourd kirblar? The sung calls to prayer in Arabic are fucking AMAZING. I'm an atheist and I adore them.
My 2 brothers graduated from community college (via scholarships) with associate degrees and felt it was absolutely worth it at their time.
I'I was not and am not saying they don't! I only brought it up to acknowledge the context of the screwup previously, not to relitigate it, because I was being accused of saying something I didn't'!
all colleges should have community college appended to their name and be made tution free for at least the first two years.
I think Community Colleges are cool and an important part of whatever our answer to exploding education costs becomes. But it's also ok to admit they offer largely lower overall quality -- admission standards, curriculum, teaching -- than even slightly more prestigious state schools. This is not a classist argument and is just kindofa dumb thing to debate.
Nah, got my degree at a bigger name school, got a secondary degree at a community college, the classes weren't really worse. In fact one of my professors was from the bigger name school and worked at both.
we'd have to change the naming scheme then
im not sure about the name thing, but the rest sounds okay to me
Obama wanted to do that right? The community college be free for two years part?
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IIRC, yeah. Even Biden's for the first two years free and free community college.
a better school would have taught you that anecdotes are not data
Ya know, I coulda sworn I ninja edited in a YMMV. Guess I must've slipped it. But I'd also say the qualifier "than even slightly more pretigious schools" is, largely, wrong.
correct
the whole discussion was embarrassingly stupid and constant reaching for nonsense points that didn't even matter
Steve Bullock was at home punching air listening to it probably
But really Warren also ticket split worse than Hillary in her own state in a wave year where Ds won by 8 million votes instead of 2. That's super concerning
Some white bearded hipster singing about guillotines is so typical
True. I pretty much use anecdotes never in political stuff, but I also wasn't taught not to or anything. But the idea that community colleges are mostly worse than even the worst non-community college schools is not something I agree with.
There are so many layers to room and board though and it intersects with larger housing problems.
It's a bigger problem re: accessibility w the 4 year schools. Dorms are a thing. Obviously not something you'd need to tackle with CCs.
I'm well aware of that. College towns also have the additional problem of having ridiculous apartment rent and otherwise prices because they can get away with it (which dips back into the dorms being expensive). On top of that you have college town NIMBYism to preserve certain looks and themes that are very similar in city housing problems. I remember paying 2k a month for the privilege of sharing a small apartment with three other people in college.
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I have a question....
So, the whole "Warren framed that 30 years just to antagonize Bernie!"
So? Is he a child? Is he incapable of not taking the bait? Because, I hate to break it to you, this isn't a good argument in his defense. (It is, of course, blaming the woman for having the audacity to say something that might hurt a man's fee-fees). But, outside that, if Bernie is so thin skinned that he gets irate at a totally benign, factually true statement...I don't want him within 10 miles of running against Donald Trump.
A man you can bait with a fact is not a man you can trust with the Presidency.
So, the whole "Warren framed that 30 years just to antagonize Bernie!"
So? Is he a child? Is he incapable of not taking the bait? Because, I hate to break it to you, this isn't a good argument in his defense. (It is, of course, blaming the woman for having the audacity to say something that might hurt a man's fee-fees). But, outside that, if Bernie is so thin skinned that he gets irate at a totally benign, factually true statement...I don't want him within 10 miles of running against Donald Trump.
A man you can bait with a fact is not a man you can trust with the Presidency.
Tuition is the easiest problem to solve or at least make progress on. Obviously, the room and board is a bigger cost, but it would make the blow a lot less to take that step.
Warren's statement wasn't true since Bernie beat a Republican incumbent in November of 1990
The same could be said about warren's thin skinned response to bernie "trashing" her (some volunteer posting a totally benign, factually true statement to a slack channel) being to launch this petty, opportunistic line of attack against against her good friend.
Biden it is. I hope he does pushups with trump.
Do you realize how absurd and petty this sounds? Honestly?
No, don't do that. Don't defend Bernie by deflecting. Actually defend what he did instead of trying to bothsides it.
And this is not RuPauls best friend race! They're running against each other. The idea that neither should say shit about the other is so absolutely ridiculous.
Well, actually, when the election occurs in November, it will have been 30 years since he won that election, unless you want to quibble about a few days difference.
I'm pretty baffled at how it became canonical truth that warren personally signed off on this leak
Is it possible to get an official staff explanation as to why this poster was banned then immediately unbanned?
or why this post was actionable:
but not this one?
both were posted after this staff post:
I get tensions are high now but this seems inconsistent and arbitrary to me.
I don't mean to accuse staff of favoritism or anything but it can be hard not to wonder at the reasoning for these kinds of things at times esp given a large amount of staff come from this community.
Any clarity is very much appreciated.
or why this post was actionable:
but not this one?
both were posted after this staff post:
I get tensions are high now but this seems inconsistent and arbitrary to me.
I don't mean to accuse staff of favoritism or anything but it can be hard not to wonder at the reasoning for these kinds of things at times esp given a large amount of staff come from this community.
Any clarity is very much appreciated.
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