no please tell me what things you've seen
I just need, I need you to not do this thing, okay
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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no please tell me what things you've seen
I just need, I need you to not do this thing, okay
I truly wonder what the future of the Republican Party is....Like America is going to get more brown and with people like AOC doing an amazing job with younger people and the overall shift in view of socialism/dem-socialism.
Picture the Republican platform's answer to climate refugees and you have your answer.
It's been implied that I'm sexist, a horrible person, and had my argument compared to Blue Lives Matter shit in the past two days. And yet I've been relatively cordial. Maybe there's actually a problem and you're purposely ignoring it. But it's not surprising considering you showed up in Soc Era the other day for the express purpose of drive by trolling.
Yeah but you're missing the point here. You can't ask for civility and tell lefties to ignore the toxic bullshit in the same sentence. It's one or the other man.
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I accidentally misspelled it once and now it autocorrected to it all the damn time.
Look I'm just one man pigeon...
I'm pretty sure off site drama will get me banned, and I said I'm already done with it.
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No I made that argument to try and draw out the conclusion that you gotta call out the baddies amongst your own, not that you yourself are a cop defender!
As for that, I never said play nice. I just want this OT to calm down. Y'all wanna slap each other go into the OTs.
That Bernie Warren thread is still burning bright!(make it stop)
yeah it still kinda creeps me out that I live in a country where there are people who don't actually interact/ befriend a POC until college, if that. Even with the whole fucking world in their hands.
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All they see is a character on Fox news.
They never meet real minorities. And if they do it's "one of the good ones".
That statement in the context of that story should get this dude removed and yet likely all he will get is a "stern" talking to.
Good for the reporter for not letting it pass, i weep for all of his other victims.
oh yeah that was a mistake, I misread the post I was replying to, very embarrassing actually so you can understand why I didn't return right away
I am not claiming that there aren't some toxic posters in poliera, I am saying that their existence doesn't give people carte blanche to be as hostile as they want to be, everybody's got to answer for their own choices and in the end the only thing you can do to improve the thread you're posting in is improve your own posts
you have literally done exactly this
Okay, so are you saying you don't want the lefties of Era to come into this thread and express their opinions? It seems to me that as long as there are conflicting opinions and toxicity in this thread, there's going to be some bickering and it could devolve into personal attacks. I personally try to ignore the inflammatory shit lobbed at me in this thread, but others aren't necessarily going to.
If you want a centrist/center-left hangout thread, you might want to call it something other than US Poliera because that name to me implies that it's the major us political hangout on the forum and therefore pretty much guarantees there's going to be a decent amount of conflict.
Here's the thing. The US PoliEra thread is ultimately a general politics thread encompassing all aspects of US politics. There are a bunch of regular posters, yes, but anyone with an interest in discussing US politics should be able to post in here. People discuss Trump news here. People discuss the primaries. People discuss policy, like earlier in here on community college. There are a ton of people in here, and they don't all discuss the same things. So this thread isn't exactly like the Socialism thread, which has a more specialized topic of interest.
And honestly, we don't need the generalizing of this into PoliEra vs. SocialismEra. All these threads are ultimately comprised of individuals, and each individual doesn't necessarily represent an entire thread. We get complaints when people jab PoliEra in the OT, and yeah, it's annoying because PoliEra is full of people who don't all agree with each other. Generalizations are reductive and ultimately not conducive towards discussion, so we don't need to do that vs. the Socialism thread either.
As for this thread, US politics is often stressful to follow and people have genuine disagreements. So things get heated sometimes. But if you think someone is crossing the line, then just report them. But at the same time, it'd be nice if everyone could assume people are discussing in good faith before assuming that things are due to community warring and jumping to hostilities.
As for your post, PixelatedDonut, there are people all over the site with a ton of infractions, so it'd be best to avoid the generalizations about toxicity.
Also, keep the offsite commentary off the site. Thanks.
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Conservative Era |OT| The flaming starts in five minutes
Hello, reader. This topic is for the discussion of conservative politics, theory and issues. Liberal, right wing or confused, everyone is welcome here. Like a powerful river, the principles of conservatism ebb away into many distributaries: fiscal, social, neo...paleo? But the commonality is a...
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The proverbial you, of course. I realize there are tons of great voices here. But you all get drowned out by the screeching yawn of centrists reposting the same talking points. It was the same Clinton bandwagon at the other place - and it's depressing.
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No, the Hillary cheer section was bigger.
Most of us are resigned to Biden.
I resigned myself to voting for her at the time and I of course will vote for Biden, too. I just don't get why people keep preaching triangulation as gospel. I can't tell if these people are just cynics who have given up or if these are their real principles
Lol, there's like maybe one record player Joe supporter.
And like that one Pete person. And one KHIVE.
And like that one Pete person. And one KHIVE.
Handsome Flanders was a unironic Biden supporter but I ain't seen him in a long time
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Shut up you know you like your vanilla cream cheese daddy Biden.
I have never posted in here because the thread is so often about analyzing polls, electoral strategy, general running commentary about the horse race and a pastiche of inside baseball talk about Democratic Party affairs. It's also typically a news clearinghouse, lots of tweets or articles posted for comment from the twitter commentariat or the political gossip press like Politico.
That's one way of engaging with "politics" but I think it's narrow in scope and tends to under-emphasize the policy side of politics or the various ways of analyzing political schools of thought, the history of political power, etc. The cool bits.
People who are interested in a running discussion of the horse race should have a place to do it. It seems to be the PoliEra threads. Cool. If PoliEra is meant to expand to a more broad OT for political theory then I think the people focused on the horse race may feel displaced.
That's one way of engaging with "politics" but I think it's narrow in scope and tends to under-emphasize the policy side of politics or the various ways of analyzing political schools of thought, the history of political power, etc. The cool bits.
People who are interested in a running discussion of the horse race should have a place to do it. It seems to be the PoliEra threads. Cool. If PoliEra is meant to expand to a more broad OT for political theory then I think the people focused on the horse race may feel displaced.
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I lurk but very rarely post because this thread moves lightning fast and getting 30 alerts every time I post triggers my anxiety (that's not anyone's fault in particular, just the nature of a thread this big). It's good as a news feed but overwhelming in terms of discussion. Today I thought I would try to post more, I think I've managed well enough. I try to avoid engaging in hostility here because it helps no one and usually helps to de-escalate (people who are hostile want the other person to get hostile as well, usually). I want to post more, but I also get nervous sometimes. It's like a debate stage but there's 3000 lurkers!
The way the thread has become about horserace stuff to a great extent is kind of a natural consequence of that being where the news is at, tbh. It's been more policy oriented in the past.
And like Hunter says, there's no primary thread, because people kept lighting them on fire. So it ends up here.
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Now that's some funny shit
This just isn't true. In fact I don't think I've seen a Biden supporter on this forum lol. I honestly can't think of one consistent poster stanning for Biden.
There are Biden supporters around, I'm a Biden supporter. I just don't go around leading with that information because this place learns so far left that being an open supporter would be like wearing a scarlet letter to many around here.
If anyone seriously thinks this place is flooded with the "screeching yawn of centrists", I'd argue you don't really know what a centrist is. Era is far left and further left. Seriously, if you don't support Bernie around here you are automatically considered a moderate or centrist.
If anyone seriously thinks this place is flooded with the "screeching yawn of centrists", I'd argue you don't really know what a centrist is. Era is far left and further left. Seriously, if you don't support Bernie around here you are automatically considered a moderate or centrist.
*raises hand*
Don't think we're ready for Bernie and Warren, and if their failure means Trump wins...yeah no, the D umbrella can burn down the circus tent coalition after we win and Trump is convicted.
This is kinda where the rubber hits the road, though.
I don't think you'll find many people (here or elsewhere on the forum) who wouldn't look at this and say "yeah sure sounds good." However, what you imagine when you read "universal healthcare" is not the only way it's read. Most every developed nation on earth has some form of universal healthcare, but they're not all the Canadian or UK model. There're plenty of people who say "well, I don't like Sanders' M4A plan" but aren't opposed to universal healthcare.
Glad to see you. Honestly more Biden supporters should post and join in on the conversation. I think people are scared to death of going with warren and sanders, even if they agree with them more than other candidates.
I thought it was obvious I was joking but I literally got into a drawn-out argument in this thread defending leftism. So.
Don't allow the loudest people to cloud your mind, not everyone post in the same threads or in political threads at all. Lots of people love warren too, even with this internet "feud". I'm just going to vote for the person that shares my values. The media really makes people fear populist polices and I think any of the top 3 can beat trump, but maybe I'm an optimist.
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(Not that Republicans aren't off their rocker, just found the coincidence funny)
you'd have to have a pretty loose grasp of syntax to think anything other than unequivocal M4A is "universal healthcare" in a way that matters (which is to say, free at the point of use to avoid cartoonish abuses of sick and injured people on behalf of capital)
I think this is a key point. Bernard is extremely thin-skinned and doesn't let things go. His debate performance confirmed that Trump would roll him in the debates.
Let's get a fucking adult up there. Thankfully(?) I don't think we will actually need to worry about him getting to the general.
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