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Blader

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Love Trump's tried-and-true strategy of "This person I hired was awful, their judgment was terrible, they brought nothing to the table, everyone told me not to hire them but I did it anyway and that reflects poorly on them!"
 

Blader

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Is Gardner just conceding his seat at this point? You would think you would at least try to appear more moderate given you are in a state that has voted blue in the last three cycles and appears to be getting bluer.
Gardner is following the Dirty Dean Heller model of accepting his fucked fate and going all-in on the MAGA base to save him.
 

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We've lived through a period where.

- Bolton was so insane that G.W. had to wait until a Congressional Recess to appoint him.
- Bolton was welcomed with open arms into the Trump Admin
- Bolton is now a DNC socialist plant.
It all comes back to Bolton. A Bolton investigation should be launched, so that we can find out who he is, where he comes from and how much he knows.
 

Casa

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One or two moderate Dems may really ruin it for everyone by giving credence to this "If Hunter Biden really was up to no good then Trump was right to do what he did" bullshit, huh? Fuck off, Manchin.

Even if Hunter was the dirtiest motherfucker on earth (and there's zero evidence he did anything wrong because Barr would've 100% revealed it by now) that doesn't make Trump's abuse of power magically go away.
 

Titanpaul

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One or two moderate Dems may really ruin it for everyone by giving credence to this "If Hunter Biden really was up to no good then Trump was right to do what he did" bullshit, huh? Fuck off, Manchin.

Even if Hunter was the dirtiest motherfucker on earth (and there's zero evidence he did anything wrong because Barr would've 100% revealed it by now) that doesn't make Trump's abuse of power magically go away.

Whilst being buried, America continues to scream, "both sides"'.
 

DrROBschiz

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Lol outside of Hunter working for a fossil fuel board cuz he has a famous last name....

What the fuck did he do that was illegal? They didnt have to hire him to sit on the board

Outside of leaning on your name and nepotism i cant see what the whole corruption angle is. Outside of making money he didnt seem to be in a position to exert corruptive influence on the sales of fossil fuels lol

Like this whole thing is just them grasping for anything to draw attention away from how shitty Trump is
 

MMBosstones86

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Pretty sure Morrison and the Fox News lawyer we're republican witnesses

Sondland was also "intended" to be a GOP witness, but his remembering intensified and he revisited his statements.

Lol outside of Hunter working for a fossil fuel board cuz he has a famous last name....

What the fuck did he do that was illegal? They didnt have to hire him to sit on the board

Outside of leaning on your name and nepotism i cant see what the whole corruption angle is. Outside of making money he didnt seem to be in a position to exert corruptive influence on the sales of fossil fuels lol

Like this whole thing is just them grasping for anything to draw attention away from how shitty Trump is

Nothing. Burisma was a shady fucking company, but Biden is only guilty of using his name. The angle is just that his Biden really was corrupt, so his QPQ was justified.

It's a bold strategy.
 

kalindana

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#NEW poll of the 2020 Democratic primary from The Economist and YouGov:

% support among likely voters (chg vs last week):

Biden: 26 (-3)
Sanders: 24 (6)
Warren: 20 (-1)
Buttigieg: 7 (-1)
Klobuchar: 4 (0)
Bloomberg: 4 (-2)
Yang: 4 (0)
Gabbard: 3 (1)
Steyer: 1 (-2)
Patrick: 1 (0)
 

Wilsongt

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Lol outside of Hunter working for a fossil fuel board cuz he has a famous last name....

What the fuck did he do that was illegal? They didnt have to hire him to sit on the board

Outside of leaning on your name and nepotism i cant see what the whole corruption angle is. Outside of making money he didnt seem to be in a position to exert corruptive influence on the sales of fossil fuels lol

Like this whole thing is just them grasping for anything to draw attention away from how shitty Trump is
don't forget fleecing China for billions.
 

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#NEW poll of the 2020 Democratic primary from The Economist and YouGov:

% support among likely voters (chg vs last week):

Biden: 26 (-3)
Sanders: 24 (6)
Warren: 20 (-1)
Buttigieg: 7 (-1)
Klobuchar: 4 (0)
Bloomberg: 4 (-2)
Yang: 4 (0)
Gabbard: 3 (1)
Steyer: 1 (-2)
Patrick: 1 (0)


I wonder what has bolstered Sanders so much in these last couple of weeks specifically?

In any case, I like to see Biden, Sanders, and Warren all somewhat in range of each other.
 

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#NEW poll of the 2020 Democratic primary from The Economist and YouGov:

% support among likely voters (chg vs last week):

Biden: 26 (-3)
Sanders: 24 (6)
Warren: 20 (-1)
Buttigieg: 7 (-1)
Klobuchar: 4 (0)
Bloomberg: 4 (-2)
Yang: 4 (0)
Gabbard: 3 (1)
Steyer: 1 (-2)
Patrick: 1 (0)


buckle up boys/girls - time to hit the panic button... I assume the last line of defense is rolling out Obama to take down Sanders.
 

Phife Dawg

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Lol outside of Hunter working for a fossil fuel board cuz he has a famous last name....

What the fuck did he do that was illegal? They didnt have to hire him to sit on the board

Outside of leaning on your name and nepotism i cant see what the whole corruption angle is. Outside of making money he didnt seem to be in a position to exert corruptive influence on the sales of fossil fuels lol

Like this whole thing is just them grasping for anything to draw attention away from how shitty Trump is
This is true ofc but as dems I'd put Hunter on the stand regardless. In the (not too unlikely) case Biden gets the nomination you have cleared the waves beforehand. And in the (unlikely) case he incriminates himself or his father the latter will not get the nomination. There is nothing to lose imo.
 

Ortix

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So this is saying that its 1.Biden 2.Warren and 3. Sanders after second choices are done?

Warren is closer to winning than Sanders with these numbers.

Well, 2nd choices are only important if their candidate does not get to 15% (at their voting precinct). So if we assume that there's an overlap between Sanders/Warren 2nd choices, and both are viable in the majority of precincts, this will only benefit those who are 2nd choices of Klobuchar (and Steyer/Yang to some extent)... Which is Biden, probably.
 

theprodigy

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So this is saying that its 1.Biden 2.Warren and 3. Sanders after second choices are done?

Warren is closer to winning than Sanders with these numbers.
No, because 2nd choices for supporters of the leading candidates (i.e. mainly Biden/Sanders, to a lesser extent Warren/Buttigieg in Iowa) don't really matter.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Lol outside of Hunter working for a fossil fuel board cuz he has a famous last name....

What the fuck did he do that was illegal? They didnt have to hire him to sit on the board

Outside of leaning on your name and nepotism i cant see what the whole corruption angle is. Outside of making money he didnt seem to be in a position to exert corruptive influence on the sales of fossil fuels lol

Like this whole thing is just them grasping for anything to draw attention away from how shitty Trump is

The news (AP?) tried to do this with Biden's brother recently as well. "He's using his famous name to help his business!" as if that's remotely comparable to Ivanka running the family business while working in the WH and refusing to answer questions about her father's policies.
 

OmniOne

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We shall see. I think Buttigieg is going to under perform in many precincts. Bernie will over perform in high pop. places like Des Moines, but under perform in rural counties where there are more olds.

Also Warren won another mock caucus this time at GU.


Bernie keeps on not gaining in further alignments and I am cackling.
 
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