US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]

FreezePeach

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are people who are primarily concerned with not nominating Sanders really flocking to Bloomberg? Maybe I'm reading the wrong people but my sense has been that very few mainstream Democrats are enthusiastic about him.
Outside of maybe literally 1or 2 people online, nobody wants bloom. The discussion is mostly about what happens if its him or trump. Outside the 10% online bubble though you have a lot of purple states that are getting swamped with positive ads and a lot of people want the centrist candidate.
 

Arm Van Dam

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Mar 30, 2019
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Corey Stewart/Ken Cuccinelli levels awful candidate who pissed off the GOP by not caucusing with them running for VA governor in 2021.

If she gets to be the nominee, then she's dead in the water instantly.
 

Gotchaye

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Oct 27, 2017
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Outside of maybe literally 1or 2 people online, nobody wants bloom. The discussion is mostly about what happens if its him or trump. Outside the 10% online bubble though you have a lot of purple states that are getting swamped with positive ads and a lot of people want the centrist candidate.
Yeah, I mean my sense was that his polling was probably mostly attributable to his massive ad spending. So it seems like it's less of a "we need someone to stop Sanders, let's go with Bloomberg" and more Bloomberg himself perhaps thinking that and spending his way to reasonable numbers with people who aren't themselves terribly worried about the prospect of a Sanders nomination.
 

fragamemnon

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Are people who are primarily concerned with not nominating Sanders really flocking to Bloomberg? Maybe I'm reading the wrong people but my sense has been that very few mainstream Democrats are enthusiastic about him.
I think there's a sort of baked in problem here for forum/internet types, because the movement here is happening with older voters. So you'd never see it unless that's your peer group.

Bernie never really fixed his struggle with older voters. Like it's Pete-with-minorities grade bad, but if you're on the internet and not your parent's facebook you might never hear it.
 

GillianSeed79

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Oct 27, 2017
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From Wikipedia:
The Las Vegas Sun is one of the Las Vegas Valley's two daily newspapers. It is owned by the Greenspun family and is affiliated with Greenspun Media Group. The paper published afternoons on weekdays from 1990 to 2005 and is now included as a section inside the pages of the morning Las Vegas Review-Journal but continues operating exclusively on its own website.
Its publisher and president is Brian Greenspun, former publisher Hank Greenspun's son, who was a college roommate of President Bill Clinton. He was welcomed by Clinton during his presidency, as a house guest during a Clinton fundraising trip to Southern Nevada.

The afternoon edition of the paper was published until September 30, 2005, when, on October 2, 2005, theLas Vegas Sun began distribution with the
Las Vegas Review-Journal. The change came about after the Sun entered into an amended joint operating agreement with the Las Vegas Review-Journal to deliver the Sun with the Review-Journal , but with the Sun's content inserted in the Review-Journal.

Before Christmas in 2009, the Sun fired more than half its staff and changed its focus from daily news to feature stories and analysis. Then, in September 2011, the paper laid off a dozen additional employees, with Greenspun pointing to layoffs at the Sun a direct result of recent layoffs at thReview-Journal.
Lol, the Sun can get fucked. Also, fun fact, the The Review-Journal is owned by Sheldon Adelson.


In January a set of editorial principles were drawn up and publicized to ensure the newspaper's independence and to deal with possible conflicts of interest involving Adelson's ownership. In February Craig Moon, a veteran of the Gannett organization, was announced as the new publisher and promptly withdrew those principles from publication. He also began to personally review, edit, and sometimes kill stories about an Adelson-promoted proposal for the future Las Vegas Raiders football stadium.[22] In the months since, reporters say that stories about Adelson, and particularly about an ongoing lawsuit involving his business dealings in Macau, have been heavily edited by top management.[23]


The new ownership triggered numerous departures. On December 23 the paper's editor Mike Hengel stepped down in a "voluntary buyout".[24] Many reporters and editors left the newspaper citing "curtailed editorial freedom, murky business dealings and unethical managers."[25] Longtime columnist John L. Smith resigned after he was told he could no longer write anything about Adelson, a frequent focus of his reporting up till then.[25] Within six months, all three of the reporters who broke the story of Adelson's ownership had left the paper.
Fuck both of these papers.
 

fragamemnon

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Nov 30, 2017
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Now if you want to get "why would Trump does this?" on that stock account thing, if the long con was to eliminate 401k matching contribs so businesses could effectively pay their employees even less, that would be on brand for the administration 100%.

Every small to mid market newspaper in the country has a recent history full of turmoil and megacorp/editorial abuse fuckery. That's why you saw so many "endorse no one, they're all communists" type non-endorsements over the past decade in local papers.
 

Arm Van Dam

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Mar 30, 2019
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The SDNY investigation involving Giuliani? It’s very much ongoing. Prosecutors have contacted witnesses and sought to collect new documents just since impeachment trial wound down. With @thamburger https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-impeachment-trial-ended-federal-prosecutors-took-new-steps-in-probe-related-to-giuliani-according-to-people-familiar-with-case/2020/02/14/7893bfb0-4e8a-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html …
Looks like Barr hasn't touched the Rudy SDNY investigation yet
 

Tiger Priest

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Oct 24, 2017
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I think a contested convention is reasonably likely, but I have a hard time seeing how Bloomberg would come out of it. Like, if Sanders has a plurality and Bloomberg is close behind him, Bloomberg still doesn't have a strong claim to the rest of the delegates and I feel like it'd be pretty natural for them to go for not-Bloomberg if they're willing to reject Sanders in the first place.
If it’s a contested convention with Bernie as the clear plurality leader, the moderates will pick the VP to be Bernie’s successor or likely frontrunner for 24 if/when Trump wins (which is the likeliest scenario to me if Bernie gets the nomination).

Bill’s apparently going to Nevada to campaign for Bernie. Something’s up.
Good, keep him out of NYC.
 

Soul Skater

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Oct 25, 2017
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Regardless of how hilariously bad his campaign was it reminds me sort of how when Christie endorsed Trump when everyone else was unsure about making a move.
 

Y2Kev

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think there's any reason to think he'd "implode" during a debate. He is just lame all around. I find it hard to believe anyone likes him at all.
 

Arm Van Dam

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This is a massive retirement. Anderson leaves behind a Clinton & Walz +18 district that Klobuchar carried by 34.6 points in 2018 (an improvement over her 31 point margin there in 2012.). #MNLeg #SD44

JUST IN: First-term GOP state Sen. @PTAnderson_MN says he's not running again in November. His Plymouth-area seat is on the target list #mnleg
Dems only need 2 pickups in the MN state senate to get a trifecta and this is one of them
 

UberTag

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Oct 25, 2017
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They are collecting evidence to then stuff in the Ark basement. Im fairly convinced at this point SDNY is like the national enquirer of justice.
To be fair to the SDNY, it's only been about 4 months or so since they kicked their Giuliani investigations into high gear.

Comrade De Blasio has joined the victory squad, "hasta la victoria siempre!"
Bill's just distressed that people don't like him and feels this is a momentous opportunity to put himself in a higher category of regard than such past mayoral luminaries as Giuliani and Bloomberg.
 

Arm Van Dam

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A federal appeals court has rejected the Trump administration's approval Medicaid work requirements in Arkansas, affirming a lower court decision. The judges issued a unanimous 3-0 decision.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/14/appeals-court-rejects-trump-approved-medicaid-work-requirements-115221

A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against Trump-approved Medicaid work requirements in Arkansas, the latest legal setback to the administration’s efforts to remake the safety net health care program.

A three judge panel in a unanimous ruling said HHS didn't have the authority to require some Medicaid enrollees to work in order to receive coverage.

The decision, which upheld a lower court ruling against the work requirements, brings the Trump administration’s Medicaid overhaul closer to possible review from the Supreme Court. For the first time in Medicaid’s history, the administration has allowed states to condition coverage for some enrollees on whether they work or participate in a similar activity, like job training, volunteering or attending school.

The federal appeals court in Washington, D.C. rejected the Trump administration's argument that the work requirements were lawful under Medicaid because they promoted better health and independence from the government. The court said those objectives were not in Medicaid statute and that the program's purpose was furnish coverage.

The law “includes one primary purpose, which is providing health care coverage without any restriction geared to healthy outcomes, financial independence or transition to commercial coverage,” read the opinion from Judge David Sentelle, a Reagan appointee.

Critics of the rules say they are a thinly veiled effort to allow states, which jointly finance the program with the federal government, to pare down program enrollment.
Last month, the top federal Medicaid official, Seema Verma, encouraged states to pursue another major conservative overhaul of the program: capped funding for some poor adults. Like the work rules, that proposal has received strong resistance from Democrats and Medicaid advocates, and it will also likely face court challenges.

Friday's appeals court decision also lashed the Trump administration for failing to account for how many Arkansans might lose coverage. In Arkansas, more than 18,000 people lost Medicaid coverage in 2018 as a result of the work rules, before they were invalidated by U.S. District Judge James Boasberg last year. Just a fraction of those enrollees rejoined the program while the rules were in effect, state data showed.

Lost health coverage "is a matter of importance" under Medicaid law, Sentelle wrote.

The Trump administration has approved work requirements in 10 states, largely in those that adopted Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion to low-income adults. Another nine states have sought similar rules, including some that have not expanded Medicaid.

Friday's decision does not effect work rules in other states. Some states have paused their work requirements, citing ongoing litigation.

Legal aid groups opposing the work rules in court argued that HHS "effectively rewrote" federal Medicaid law to approve work rules in those states, ignoring the program's core purpose of providing health insurance to poor people. Justice Department lawyers defending the work requirements argued the rules fit within Medicaid’s mission, because winnowing the program would help states better afford coverage for people who needed it most.

The Arkansas lawsuit was originally consolidated with a similar case involving Kentucky's work requirements. However, Kentucky was removed from the lawsuit after recently elected Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear dropped the work requirements.

Work requirements are currently only in effect in Michigan, though legal aid groups have sued to block the state's rules. Boasberg last year overturned rules in New Hampshire. The Justice Department hasn’t said if it would appeal that decision.
You know you fucked up when a Reagan appointee points out at your shitty law
 
Oct 26, 2017
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We go LIVE to desperate rubes awaiting the next investigation into the Deep State operatives they've been Pavlovianly conditionined into hating!



Now if you want to get "why would Florida Man does this?" on that stock account thing, if the long con was to eliminate 401k matching contribs so businesses could effectively pay their employees even less, that would be on brand for the administration 100%.

Every small to mid market newspaper in the country has a recent history full of turmoil and megacorp/editorial abuse fuckery. That's why you saw so many "endorse no one, they're all communists" type non-endorsements over the past decade in local papers.
That made the McClatchy bankruptcy even harder to take.
 

Arm Van Dam

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Trump and Barr spoke today, after POTUS bucked his request to not tweet & Barr and DOJ decided not to charge McCabe. POTUS unhappy with decision but Barr’s job is safe for now, admin officials say. Latest w/⁦@mattzap⁩ & ⁦@DevlinBarrett⁩: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-appears-to-escalate-standoff-with-attorney-general-and-justice-dept-declaring-on-twitter-a-legal-right-to-influence-criminal-cases/2020/02/14/8c152c36-4f2f-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html …
Trump wasn't told in advance of McCabe and is upset about it
Officials familiar with the matter, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss Trump’s interactions, said the president was not told about the McCabe decision in advance and was upset. White House lawyers, including White House counsel Pat Cipollone, moved to calm the president, these people said. One official said Trump “believes very strongly that action should be taken.”

Trump, who is spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago Club in South Florida, did not address Barr’s TV interview or the McCabe case in a speech before departing the White House. He and Barr spoke Friday afternoon, but the substance of their discussion was not immediately clear, a person familiar with the matter said. White House aides are counseling Trump not to discuss McCabe at all, according to those familiar with the matter.
 

GrapeApes

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NihonTiger

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We go LIVE to desperate rubes awaiting the next investigation into the Deep State operatives they've been Pavlovianly conditionined into hating!





That made the McClatchy bankruptcy even harder to take.
As someone who spent 11 years in the journalism industry, working for a big chain and a small family paper, the intentional destruction of small and medium papers around the country by venture capital is a story that doesn't get enough attention. The next recession is going to wipe a lot of them off the face of the earth.
 

fragamemnon

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Nov 30, 2017
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Is this the first real attack ad of the primary cycle? There was the Biden ad against Pete but that was obviously not for TV because broke biden lol, this one on the other hand seems like it's there to crash time on the SC airwaves.
 

Brewm0nt

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Dec 22, 2017
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Real question:

How many people actually have extra money to put into 401ks?
I put in a percentage of my salary that my company matches into my 401k and have since I started my job 4 years ago. I also have separate savings for immediate emergencies too. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and have no kids or family. Yeah.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Steyer > Bloomberg any day of the week. Too bad his chances are that he won't become the force that Bloomberg potentially is going to be.