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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]
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I don't think the "will this spaghetti stick?" strategy will pay off. There's only so many noodles you can throw before there's a huge mess somebody has to clean up!, but we'll see.
@staceyabrams defended @MikeBloomberg colossal campaign spending on the @TheView: "I think that for once we actually know where the money is coming from."
"Every person is allowed to run and should run the race that they think they should run..."
"...and Mike Bloomberg has chosen to use his finances. Other people are using their dog, their charisma, their whatever," she added. "I think it's an appropriate question to raise. But I don't think it's disqualifying for anyone to invest in fixing America."
"Every person is allowed to run and should run the race that they think they should run..."
"...and Mike Bloomberg has chosen to use his finances. Other people are using their dog, their charisma, their whatever," she added. "I think it's an appropriate question to raise. But I don't think it's disqualifying for anyone to invest in fixing America."
This is... not a good look at all.
Honestly, Bloomberg and Biden should cut an ad where they play that clip of Bernie arguing Obama should have been primaried and that he has been a disappointment to progressives. Then plaster that shit over every single Super Tuesday state. Why these campaigns don't go for the low hanging fruit I'll never understand, though.
(I also discovered this when I googled but it didn't help the joke so I omitted it)
To be fair, Obama was a gigantic disappointment. I'll never forget the Flint water drinking, and even if that wasn't his worst offense (drone striking weddings, on the other hand...), it definitely solidified him as pretty non-progressive.
They should do it, but at that point, just get rid of Citizen's United entirely.
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I will not vote for a candidate that puts pineapple on pizza and that is where my morality begins and ends!
Say this in any state with a significant black population, it'll kill your campaign stone dead.
I think it's noble but dumb.
When the rules aren't in your favor, protesting just means you lose.
I'm sorry but how is Obama responsible for the Flint Water crisis (and not the Republican Governor of the state who made the decisions that let to changes in the drinking supply that lead to the crisis)?
Obama is dead center is any country that has a moderately functional and logical political spectrum.
I get that lol. It is very unfortunate that the truth is exactly that. Considering the media and even moderate Dems cozy on up to Bush, a literal war criminal, there is no way in hell to put Obama on blast publicly and expect it to go well, especially in a Presidential campaign.
It's funny how every democrat gets milkshake ducked in this thread. I'm certainly guilty of expecting perfection in a candidate too. It just makes me curious if there is some conservative doppelgänger PoliEra out there and what they were saying during the 2016 primary.
The US is much, much farther to the right than the majority of industrialized nations.
"The truth" is a lot more nuanced than you believe it to be, and the Democratic base is a lot less "progressive" than you wish it was.
No one is claiming Obama is perfect, but saying he was a gigantic disappointment because of the flint water crisis, while ignoring the many, many reasons he remains the world's most admired public figure is...short sighted, to put it kindly.
Abrams is saying it less skillfully than a "he's saying what we're all saying thru eleventy billion dollars is all".
Some people can't not think in tribalist terms period, with excuses to attack across lines met with relieved glee. It's slurs and flags to rally round to them.
And for the record, I've come to the conclusion that those twitter shitheads attacking Sanders-skeptics/dislikers don't so much like him as like attacking people surrounding a reason that is him.
We need to continue to pound on him for such a horrific breach of the country. Besides, he started in within a WEEK of "iggzhonerashunn" as he must emotionally assume it was.
Get used to this playing out. Once this gets neutralized he slams bodily against another foundation. On and on, until the beast is put down.
Some people can't not think in tribalist terms period, with excuses to attack across lines met with relieved glee. It's slurs and flags to rally round to them.
And for the record, I've come to the conclusion that those twitter shitheads attacking Sanders-skeptics/dislikers don't so much like him as like attacking people surrounding a reason that is him.
We need to continue to pound on him for such a horrific breach of the country. Besides, he started in within a WEEK of "iggzhonerashunn" as he must emotionally assume it was.
Get used to this playing out. Once this gets neutralized he slams bodily against another foundation. On and on, until the beast is put down.
You have a dog, I have 60 billion dollars. Our differences are what makes us American. it is a strength, not a weakness.
You can buy your way into any election with dogs or charisma! Abhorrent wealth is very similar to these things.
I could go down a list of everything Obama did wrong since Day One but it's 2020 and Obama is mostly irrelevant, outside of his latest "Now now don't hope for too much change!" rhetoric he's been pushing.
EDIT: Double post, my bad!
Oddly enough, most dems are still in the "we go high" mindset, which is asinine in today's political climate.
Sweden's social democrats party's international secretary endorsed Pete and said that Bernie's rallys are full of crazy commies, so...
Im sure you could, but your personal grievances are irrelevant when considering the tens of millions of people who don't think that way, and whose vote you will need repeatedly to enact any policy your preferred candidate endorses.
A leader in a political party that isn't considered center said that the dems aren't center and that Bernie certainly isn't center-left.
It actually drives me nuts, because there are some good shit to hit both Biden and Bernie on, specifically. Biden should have been drug to hell and back for the way he treated Anita Hill. Literally CRICKETS from everyone. DRAG HA ON THIS. If I'm literally anyone trying to drag Bernie, I'm putting that Obama thing out front and center in every single Super Tuesday state. But, instead, it's all stupid twitter shit they snip at each other over.
This would probably be a good term to call it too
people like sports
people also like salary caps
good way too immediately communicate to people what something is and why it needs to be done
They can't do that because his quotes about it are all obviously about saying primaries in general are good, not that Obama is uniquely bad. The few critiques he had on obama were true and uncontroversial. Bernie has overstepped on those attacks some in 2016 by bringing them up at the wrong place and time, but if they're brought up again now it'd be the fault of the people making those attack ads to put unnecessary focus on Obama's faults, not Bernie's.
Completely, 100% disagree. Obama has a 90% approval rating within the party. Any clip in Bernie's own words of him saying Obama was a disappointment to progressives would make it incredibly difficult to build a winning coalition. The easiest path to stopping a Bernie nomination is tank him among older black voters. he's not doing great anyway, but you can pretty much eliminate him winning any margin in the south by keeping him in the holding pattern he's currently in. (And let me be clear, Bernie has issues with ALL older voters, not just older black voters.)
Bernie saying that stuff means nothing to his base...but when you need to extend beyond that 20-30% of the electorate who is already with you, it would totally fuck him over. It's a hell of a lot better than going with Bernie is a Trump Bro or whatever.
Most people understand nuance enough to admit someone they like has faults.
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