It'd give us another 4 years of Trump and maybe a Republican House.Sanders getting a plurality of delegates going into a contested convention and not getting the nomination would ensure a massive shitfest.
It'd give us another 4 years of Trump and maybe a Republican House.Sanders getting a plurality of delegates going into a contested convention and not getting the nomination would ensure a massive shitfest.
"Who could have possibly seen this coming?" Dems the day after the election when Trump wins againBernie's base is a chunk of the party at this point that the Dems simply cannot win without and if he enters the election with the most delegates/votes and is denied then...good luck to the Democratic Party.
Easily, and the party knows this.Sanders getting a plurality of delegates going into a contested convention and not getting the nomination would ensure a massive shitfest.
I don't see how a contested convention doesn't give Trump a good chance of a win no matter the layout.Sanders getting a plurality of delegates going into a contested convention and not getting the nomination would ensure a massive shitfest.
It wouldn't even just be Bernie's base. I'm trying to imagine minority turnout after Bloomberg gets blasted for months on end for being even more racist than Trump.Bernie's base is a chunk of the party at this point that the Dems simply cannot win without and if he enters the election with the most delegates/votes and is denied then...good luck to the Democratic Party.
Sanders getting a plurality of delegates going into a contested convention and not getting the nomination would ensure a massive shitfest.
If he is the nominee through a contested convention you will see a bunch of people get pissed by the fuckery from the other camps. Contested convention is something we do not want.There is no reason not to vote for Bernie if he is the nominee
Its ridiculous. The whole "too far left" and socialism scare tactics are all horseshit
Hes been in public service for decades and knows how to 2ork with people and listen to reason. He isn't trump and anything people are scared about from a policy perspective can build a coalition to check him in midterms
I just dont get the fervor here
To be fair, i agree. I don't think anyone wants a contested convention. The carter/kennedy fight was nasty and no one wants a repeat.
But here is what i DO expect to occur.
Candidates (warren, pete, Amy, steyer) who aren't viable suspend their campaigns, which keeps their delegates from going anywhere.
Those with the money and support to go the distance (bloomberg, biden maybe, sanders) continue to the convention. One of the two (biden or bloomberg, whichever leads) becomes the party preference. The other suspends.
The suspended candidates in turn release their delegates, with the caveat that (party favorite) be nominated by acclamation as Clinton did for Obama in 08. Biden and/or Bloomberg follow suit.
Party pick gets nominated with 70% of delegates by acclamation, contested convention is avoided, no superdelegates involved. Sanders ends up without a leg to stand on.
There is no reason not to vote for Bernie if he is the nominee
Its ridiculous. The whole "too far left" and socialism scare tactics are all horseshit
Hes been in public service for decades and knows how to 2ork with people and listen to reason. He isn't trump and anything people are scared about from a policy perspective can build a coalition to check him in midterms
I just dont get the fervor here
I don't see how a contested convention doesn't give Trump a good chance of a win no matter the layout.
Slippery Nick Fuentes is banned from Youtube and his channel deleted. What a shame.
White nationalist Nick Fuentes' YouTube channel was apparently just suspended by YouTube.
I'm saying it would ensure a massive shitfest come election day.Not really. The party could coalesce around a single candidate and move to declare a nominee by acclamation without a vote. If Sanders has 30% of the vote or less by the convention (which is likely, especially if he doesn't lead) there's no way to stop it.
Like I said, suicide. Cutting out the top vote getter would permanently fracture the party, whoever that person is.
Here's what would actually happen: either 1) the person with a plurality of delegates allies with enough people to gain the majority, or 2) the person with a plurality accepts some sort of deal which does not involve the nomination, though it's hard to see what.
"Cutting out" the person with the most votes is electoral suicide and would be the end of the party. There can be no unity after such a move. Fortunately, Democratic delegates have shown no inclination they will follow this insane course of action, as they want to win.
I'm not sure what this tells us, but I would point out that his best two challengers have no chance at the nom, so is this really valuable info?
This assumes sanders has the most votes, which isnt a sure thing at all.
Second, it assumes he has a significant lead in votes if a lead exists. If Biden has 32%, Bloomberg has 33%, and Sanders has 35% for instance then theres no clear winner. The plurality is meaningless since 60+% of the field wants a different candidate.
Biden/Bloomberg suspending and backing each other on the other hand swamps Sanders 65-35, and he loses with a clear majority.
Yeah lol I thought that's how this entire debate started.Your entire line of thinking is predicated upon Sanders winning the most votes and then being cut out, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. If someone else gets the most votes then the same applies to them.
And Keep in mind, Sanders fucked himself here since there is plenty of tape with him making the argument that delegates should "vote their concience" and nominate him over Hillary even though she had the delegate lead in 2016.
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It'd give us another 4 years of Trump and maybe a Republican House.
Might as well erase the Democratic party if Bernie gets plurality going into the convention (with a healthy lead over the next few candidates) and then they make Bloomberg the nominee. It doesn't matter if Bloomberg spends all of his 60 billion, he will get embarrassed by Trump anyway with such a fractured party.
More than anything though, you are just taking a massive dump on Democracy and admitting to the world that yeah.... US is a plutocracy.
It seems to be evidence against the idea that Sanders has a hard cap of 25% of Dem voters, that once more candidates drop out all of their support will go to whoever the anti-Bernie candidate is because they hate Bernie or think he's unacceptably progressive or whatever reason.I'm not sure what this tells us, but I would point out that his best two challengers have no chance at the nom, so is this really valuable info?
Your entire line of thinking is predicated upon Sanders winning the most votes and then being cut out, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. If someone else gets the most votes then the same applies to them.
Anyway, I am impressed how you can discount people's feelings as meaningless. Have you met many humans?
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There is no reason not to vote for Bernie if he is the nominee
Its ridiculous. The whole "too far left" and socialism scare tactics are all horseshit
Hes been in public service for decades and knows how to 2ork with people and listen to reason. He isn't trump and anything people are scared about from a policy perspective can build a coalition to check him in midterms
I just dont get the fervor here
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
Hope Hicks too! So many returning guest stars!You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
Priebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission on White House Fellowships, according to a White House announcement Tuesday. As a part of the commission, the pair will interview and recommend to their former boss national finalists for appointments.
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
Trump will never forgive Bannon for Alabama and the Fire and Fury bookBannon is probably next.
God, as if we needed deja vu on top of the overall dread.
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This is a line of thinking that makes a lot of assumptions about the primary process that haven't been tested since the 70s.This assumes sanders has the most votes, which isnt a sure thing at all.
Second, it assumes he has a significant lead in votes if a lead exists. If Biden has 32%, Bloomberg has 33%, and Sanders has 35% for instance then theres no clear winner. The plurality is meaningless since 60+% of the field wants a different candidate.
Biden/Bloomberg suspending and backing each other on the other hand swamps Sanders 65-35, and he loses with a clear majority.
And Keep in mind, Sanders fucked himself here since there is plenty of tape with him making the argument that delegates should "vote their concience" and nominate him over Hillary even though she had the delegate lead in 2016.
All the party has to do is play his own words back at him.
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Trump rehires Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer to White House roles
President Donald Trump has rehired his former chief of staff Reince Priebus and former press secretary Sean Spicer almost three years after both men unceremoniously departed the White House.This article was originally published at SalonPriebus and Spicer will each join the President's Commission...www.rawstory.com
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Generic Congressional Ballot:
Democrats 46% (+3)
Republicans 43%
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This is a line of thinking that makes a lot of assumptions about the primary process that haven't been tested since the 70s.
The old model - the "smoke filled rooms" stuff - that was about picking the candidate with the broadest appeal to the party. They didn't always get it, but that was the point. But as primaries became more and more important, that's fallen away to a great extent. Now it's much more like a general election with whoever gets the most votes taking the whole thing. The res still some concessions arelound the edges, mind. I wouldn't expect Bernie to get carte blanche to set the party platform and you'll likely see a moderate-pleasing VP (even if it's just kn terms of personality), but if he goes jnto this with more votes than anybody else the pressure to find some way to put him at the top of the ticket will be tremendous.
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