US PoliEra 2020 |OT 3| "I think he's learned his lesson" says The Concerned Immoderate Darling Collins.

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Wraith

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The Democrats in the House should propose a very simple one year Payroll Tax cut. Great for the middle class, great for the USA!
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This guy. "Oh, we'll give the rich and corporations huge tax cuts, ballooning the deficit/national debt, then I'll ask Democrats to pass tax cuts for the middle class, and berate them if they don't."

He's such a transparently partisan dipshit.
 
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By the way, Beto did explain what made him endorse Biden in that Whataburger stream.

He was talking to his teenage son, telling him that he's voting for Biden. His son asked him "If you really want him to win, why you don't endorse him too"? And that was that. After he told the story, Biden left Beto's son a message on the answering machine, since he's sleeping right now.

So Beto wasn't endorsing Biden to stop Bernie. It was because one of his kids told him to.
The real answer is that he endorsed because he doesn't want to be Unemployed Man anymore.
 

Toxi

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I swear, Bernie's most online supporters are his worst messengers...
There’s a nasty mentality that you have carte Blanche to be a prick as long as it’s for a good cause. The moment someone objects, you can just go “SO YOU DON’T WANT MEDICARE FOR ALL, IS THAT IT?” as if that’s relevant to you acting like garbage.
 

The Namekian

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Because there are foolish people out there
No that’s politics. She might hate him, but beyond delegates it would help him more to have her endorsement than she’s would help Bernie.

Like for all this talk about how she needs to join Bernie..... she isn’t a cache of significant delegates. Bernie is running into the issue of a progressive voter ceiling even with Warren’s supporters.
 

cameron

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Story from Sunday night:


Sen. Bernie Sanders isn’t going to soften his views just because some moderates are lining up behind former Vice President Joe Biden after his landslide win in the South Carolina Democratic presidential primary and Pete Buttigieg’s supporters are suddenly up for grabs.
Sanders told The Chronicle on Sunday that he won’t choose a running mate who doesn’t support his signature issue, Medicare for All, a government-run single-payer health system that would require Americans to give up their private health insurance.
Polls indicate that many Democrats prefer to build on the Affordable Care Act rather than replace their private insurance with a single-payer plan. That doesn’t faze Sanders.
“We will pick somebody who knows the experience of working families in this country, who has a history of fighting for those families, and somebody whose politics are similar to mine,” Sanders told The Chronicle in an interview before taking the stage at a rally in a San Jose convention center, during which the news broke that Buttigieg was ending his campaign.
 

The Namekian

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By the way, Beto did explain what made him endorse Biden in that Whataburger stream.

He was talking to his teenage son, telling him that he's voting for Biden. His son asked him "If you really want him to win, why you don't endorse him too"? And that was that. After he told the story, Biden called Beto's son, but since he's sleeping right now, he left a message on the answering machine instead.

So Beto wasn't endorsing Biden to stop Bernie. It was because one of his kids suggested it to him.
I’m sorry for being cynical but I think these endorsements have been in the works for a while. Somebody said Bernie should have been on the phone with Warren, Ayanna, and AOC for today.

Biden probably been on the phone with Beto for weeks.
 

fragamemnon

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THAC0 Trap House > Chapo Trap House

I really dislike that all of the news outlets didn't grill Sanders and Bernie over what they would specifically use to select their VP. They are so old that it really, really matters.
 

SSF1991

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The real answer is that he endorsed because he doesn't want to be Unemployed Man anymore.
More than likely.

I'm just sharing his account of what happened is all, as that was the only noteworthy part of the stream. Well that and Biden talking to him about guns and climate change, but that conversation was hard to make out.
 

MizerMan

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No that’s politics. She might hate him, but beyond delegates it would help him more to have her endorsement than she’s would help Bernie.

Like for all this talk about how she needs to join Bernie..... she isn’t a cache of significant delegates. Bernie is running into the issue of a progressive voter ceiling even with Warren’s supporters.
Oh, I know it's politics at the end of the day. I just find it kinda amusing.
 

The Namekian

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the Warren reddit I shit you not said “let’s give them time to breathe and mourn”.

I would cry seeing aoc, ayanna, bernie, and warren on stage together. pls make it happen

Also this line is incredible and we need to bring it out all march: "No matter how many Washington insiders tell you to support him, nominating their fellow Washington insider will not meet this moment."
Bernie doesn’t make friends easy..... like The real move would have been getting Kamala to back him before California. For all their issues with the AA vote Bernie should have gone after Booker too who is actually pretty damn progressive.
 

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Ok, watching the Beto and Klobuchar rally where Biden spoke worked. He was good, he was on-point, and he masterfully mixed emotion and thought.
 

Dahbomb

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Crazy how fast Coronavirus has spread to multiple states already even in the Midwest now.

All those white suburban folks better start caring about universal health care because you don't want your little Jimmy eating Hot Dogs prepared by a working who is under insured and incubating the virus.

And Trump thinking you can cure it with the flu vaccine. To be honest that's probably not the dumbest thing he has ever said but it's still fairly ignorant.
 

SolarPowered

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If Bernie wants to show some deft, he should be brokering a deal via AOC for Warren, Castro, and Ayanna to endorse tomorrow after Warren drops out.
Them and Rashida would definitely be assets for campaigning in the rust belt, the rest of New York+PA and New England. I literally can't fathom how or why Warren would stay in this race up until March 10th.
 

Soul Skater

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If this works for Super Tuesday maybe Biden should like go on vacation for a few months and show up a week before the election and be like “I’m back everybody!” And everyone flood in and build up the hype to quickly for people to remember their problems with him. Again
 

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By the way, Beto did explain what made him endorse Biden in that Whataburger stream.

He was talking to his teenage son, telling him that he's voting for Biden. His son asked him "If you really want him to win, why you don't endorse him too"? And that was that. After he told the story, Biden called Beto's son, but since he's sleeping right now, he left a message on the answering machine instead.

So Beto wasn't endorsing Biden to stop Bernie. It was because one of his kids suggested it to him.
 

madstarr12

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43% of 65+ olds have voted in CA already. https://www.politicaldata.com/2020-primary-election-tracker/

The early results are going to be good for Biden.

But they might be bad since there's no ways these people are going to ask for their ballots back if they voted Pete lmfao.
Does it break it down among party lines? Wouldn't that 43% be including all Democratic, Republican etc ballots together? They may not all be favorable to Biden at the start, since Republicans tend to skew towards older populations than Dems.
 

SolarPowered

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Can you imagine if Biden bombs tomorrow? The entire country will need to be sedated.
I find it very unlikely, but I think after spacing out for like ten minutes at the sheer good fortune of it all I'd probably explode in laughter at all the endorsements. This isn't happening, though. I expect Joe to come out especially strong in Virginia tomorrow. North Carolina had quite a few early votes, so I can't say for sure what will happen there. It's likely in his favor too.
 

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I find it very unlikely, but I think after spacing out for like ten minutes at the sheer good fortune of it all I'd probably explode in laughter at all the endorsements. This isn't happening, though. I expect Joe to come out especially strong in Virginia tomorrow. North Carolina had quite a few early votes, so I can't say for sure what will happen there. It's likely in his favor too.
My guess is Biden wins VA by a lot and NC by a decent but not amazing number.
 

fragamemnon

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All those white suburban folks better start caring about universal health care because you don't want your little Jimmy eating Hot Dogs prepared by a working who is under insured and incubating the virus.
Little Jimmy isn't so much the problem, it's everyone's Grampa Joe or Uncle Bernie that's at real risk here.

Also, the federal response has been outrageously bad and it's a shame that Trump can't contract the disease through all the ass-kissing he's getting.
 

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Crazy how fast Coronavirus has spread to multiple states already even in the Midwest now.

All those white suburban folks better start caring about universal health care because you don't want your little Jimmy eating Hot Dogs prepared by a working who is under insured and incubating the virus.

And Trump thinking you can cure it with the flu vaccine. To be honest that's probably not the dumbest thing he has ever said but it's still fairly ignorant.
That video is overwhelming. It's like watching a zombie apocalypse in real time. It won't be flashy and filled with machine guns, it will be slow, and filled with incompetence.
 
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By the way, Beto did explain what made him endorse Biden in that Whataburger stream.

He was talking to his teenage son, telling him that he's voting for Biden. His son asked him "If you really want him to win, why you don't endorse him too"? And that was that. After he told the story, Biden called Beto's son, but since he's sleeping right now, he left a message on the answering machine instead.

So Beto wasn't endorsing Biden to stop Bernie. It was because one of his kids suggested it to him.
Do you have a link to that stream?

Also, I figured that it was because he thought Biden would be best for the down ballot vote in Texas when it comes to flipping districts/local legislature (which couldn't be accomplished by only pushing for statewide popular vote). That seems to be what PowerxPeople is about anyway. Wish there was a more tempered progressive for him to back, sad to see the New Democrat/Clintonian Beto come back.

There’s a nasty mentality that you have carte Blanche to be a prick as long as it’s for a good cause. The moment someone objects, you can just go “SO YOU DON’T WANT MEDICARE FOR ALL, IS THAT IT?” as if that’s relevant to you acting like garbage.
Yeah that's one of my issues with that whole movement, for some it really is an us vs. them, populist, cult of personality. You're likely to find that among the fringe, but it's super unflattering and potentially damaging.
 

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This should be posted anytime someone on the mainstreamedia or verified twitter starts whining about mean "Bernie bros".
We can be assholes online because we want to do good things ya see! (The Chapo Way!)

(I don't mind this video by the way, think it's a good Bernie selling point. I just think if you want to use it as a way to justify shittiness online, it's a bad way to do it. Being an asshole doesn't make anyone want to join you, it's just how human relations works. Even if you're right, no one is gonna wanna give you the win if you're being a belligerent dick. It's one of the weirder things about online culture in general.)
 

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I can't believe it's almost Super Tuesday. It feels like this primary both started yesterday and also was 300 years long.
 
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that's an interesting tweet considering the Bernie campaign has actually fired multiple people because they were acting like assholes online.
I can go and find tweets of other candidates supporters saying mean and nasty things on social media but no one talks about them only these mythical "bernie bros" because they want to paint Sanders supporters as only being white males to erase the broad collation he has formed which includes black people, other minorties and marginalized groups.
 

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I'm glad we're all pent up now, pushing Biden's deadweight ass up a hill is gonna be a challenge if he does end up getting that nom vs literally anyone else. This makes me even more disappointed than CA25's scandal after putting so much effort to help that county.

Anyway get it all out now, eventually we'll all have to kumbaya our way to some fucking finish in November.
 

Tfritz

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I can go and find tweets of other candidates supporters saying mean and nasty things on social media but no one talks about them only these mythical "bernie bros".
i mean, ok, it's just super weird that that tweet is all "Bernie says suck it tone policing hacks!!!" when bernie lichterally fired ben mora just the other day because he was a huge shithead about other candidates, on twitter dot com
 
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I can go and find tweets of other candidates supporters saying mean and nasty things on social media but no one talks about them only these mythical "bernie bros".
Normally I don't respond to your drive bys but...

Have other supporters for other candidates done shit like this?

 
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The GOP smear campaign was always going to be immense on anyone but this Biden one is going to be truly something.

He's 100% going to lose a debate to Trump too.
 
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Speaking of CA25, is there any polling for that race?

It'd be amusing to see that Micheal Bloombergian piece of shit Cenk get blown out of the water
 

fragamemnon

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I don't get the debate argument, Joe has done tons of them this cycle. Trump has been surrounded by ass kissers for years and is in precarious mental state. This should not be a concern.

Bernie has one answer to everything, not answering the question and wagging a finger about billionaires and talking about what he wants to talk about. It's tiresome.
 

fragamemnon

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And he's sucked at all of them. What's the argument here?
The argument is that a ham sandwich with the amount of debate prep Joe's had over this primary can beat Trump in a debate.

Also, please note that the last four debates have been markedly better as they stopped being so clowncar and got down to business. Joe got way better as all the rest of them got better. No one is as much a cold master as Pete was on the stage, but Joe and the rest were not far behind except for Bloomberg. Even Broken Record Bernie got sharper.
 

Chaos Legion

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I don't get the debate argument, Joe has done tons of them this cycle. Trump has been surrounded by ass kissers for years and is in precarious mental state. This should not be a concern.

Bernie has one answer to everything, not answering the question and wagging a finger about billionaires and talking about what he wants to talk about. It's tiresome.
Neither Biden nor Bernie are good debaters, so I don’t think it matters much and agree it shouldn’t be a source of differentiation unless we are highlighting skilled debaters and Biden.

Trump has a brusque manner that I don’t think either would do well against, unlike Warren/Hillary/Buttigieg. Look at his dismantling of Jeb.
 

Steel

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I mean, it is interesting that people want to spin Bernie's words as giving the green light on snake emojis and calling Pete a rat. I mean, sure you can do that, not the worst sin in the world. But I'm having trouble seeing through the 4d chess where that actually is productive for Bernie's revolution. Calling supporters schoolyard names and then turning around when their candidate drops and ask them to join up with Bernie.

But, damn, calling Pete a rat sure did... what, exactly? Oh it was funny. Definitely a revolution builder.

Again, you're free to do that, but don't pretend you're upholding Bernie's ideals or helping him by doing so.

And he's sucked at all of them. What's the argument here?
I don't think current Biden is a good debater at all, but, like, if not winning a debate makes a huge difference then Biden shouldn't even have a chance after all these debates that he basically slept through against people that would easily trounce Trump in a debate. And yet, he's still here. With a reasonable chance of winning.

Trump's a terrible debater, bottom tier. Made no difference last time that Hillary was perceived to have won all the debates. I actually seriously doubt that Biden gets trounced by Trump in the debates either. Think we're over-weighting debates, honestly.
 
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