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Sianos

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Oct 25, 2017
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never forget that for republicans "the cruelty is the point"

let's do our best to stop the bleeding and rebuke their hate
 

TI92

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My state is completely fucked, but Nationwide things are looking up for the first time in 2 years. Time to take our country back!
 

Vixdean

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Bottom line: if south Florida gave Gillum/Nelson the same margins it gave Hillary, all else equal, we'd be talking about a resounding Democratic victory and repudiation of Trumpism. Indiani, Missouri, North Dakota, those are red states, none of them have gone blue since 2008. Be happy that we somehow kept seats in the equally deep red states of West Virginia and Montana, those are HUGE holds. We turned around a House majority that was thought impenetrable until after the next census, won a bunch of governorships, and came within' spitting distance in again, deep red Texas and Georgia. Wake up and smell the donkey shit folks.
 

Mr Jones

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Forgive me, this is really my first time being in the Politics thread. Is Poli-Era bipartisan?
 

TheFatOne

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If somehow Dems can take AZ then the loses in the senate aren't so bad, and can be made up. Tester holding onto MT was pretty big. Hard to predict what is going to happen in 2020, but every senate seat they can hold is big.
 

VectorPrime

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Bottom line: if south Florida gave Gillum/Nelson the same margins they gave Hillary, all else equal, we'd be talking about a resounding Democratic victory and repudiation of Trumpism. Indiani, Missouri, North Dakota, those are red states, none of them have gone blue since 2008. Be happy that we somehow kept seats in the equally deep red states of West Virginia and Montana, those are HUGE holds. We turned around a House majority that we as thought impenetrable until after the next census, won a bunch of governorships, and came with spitting distance in again, deep red Texas and Georgia. Wake up and smell the donkey shit folks.
So mad about Florida. We need Nelson for a chance at the Senate in 2020.
 

Surfinn

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Damn. I forgot we still have to wait until January lol.. so eager for dems to get in. Looks like they're already making major moves though, good shit
 

cameron

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Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi addresses media after Democrats took control of the House: "Healthcare was on the ballot and healthcare won." https://cbsn.ws/2D9PJML

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"Voters delivered a resounding verdict against congressional Republicans' attacks on Medicare, Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act and people with pre-existing conditions in districts everywhere in America," Pelosi says. http://cbsn.ws/2D9PJML
 

clevbrowns95

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Bottom line: if south Florida gave Gillum/Nelson the same margins they gave Hillary, all else equal, we'd be talking about a resounding Democratic victory and repudiation of Trumpism. Indiani, Missouri, North Dakota, those are red states, none of them have gone blue since 2008. Be happy that we somehow kept seats in the equally deep red states of West Virginia and Montana, those are HUGE holds. We turned around a House majority that was thought impenetrable until after the next census, won a bunch of governorships, and came within' spitting distance in again, deep red Texas and Georgia. Wake up and smell the donkey shit folks.
Yeah, if Hillary was President, you could have had close to or above a 60 seat R supermajority. The map was just that terrible. We survived it, lost 3 net seats, maybe 2 if AZ goes blue, so it could have been A LOT worse.
 

Kirblar

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Reposting for the new thread.

This data seems to show the GOP bleeding votes in R areas yet it not mattering because they still had large enough margins in R areas that could leverage a polarized election. It helped run up the popular House vote for Dems while not translating into seats. There are implications here- this is something we probably need to invest in outreach for in the same way Obama did in his primary run in '08.

 

JustinP

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Midnight jon no longer doing OPs?


Important thread, there's something going on under the surface in the rural areas where GOP margins were down across the board. The polarization worked in the GOP's favor despite this simply because of the way the states and districts are gerrymandered, but there was a real backlash in red areas contributing heavily to the raw House popular vote while not translating into seats-


(I think she's wrong to not take into account polarization, but this gives some nuance as to why the Senate/House turned out the way they did.)


So wait, hispanic border counties in texas went more republican...? What is it measuring in 2016 when there wasn't a gov race?
 

EvilChameleon

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Still not crazy hearing Pelosi talk so much about working with mcconnell and trump. I hope it's just talk but I just can't tell with these guys.
Honestly, day one of the new congress, Pelosi should call Trump and say "If you were serious about fixing the broken infrastructure in this country, I can have a draft of a bill on your desk by the end of the month, and after you look it over, if you find it acceptable, it's up to you to convince the senate to pass it. You game?".

Then if that fails, start investigation city.
 

Doof

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Not to be that guy, but I've seen people get dogpiled for even showing interest in voting for a GOP member here....so yeah
Voting GOP isn't really a valid political position at this point in time. If you want to talk policy, you should be fine. If you're supporting a party of white supremacists, you're gonna have a bad time.
 
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